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Was Your Local Meteorologist Laid Off? Weather Channel Deal Leads to Cuts

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I understand that the fire situation in Cali has been mismanaged for years.

From a holistic standpoint:
  • Building and rebuilding above ground utilities
  • Ignoring brush remediation
  • Delaying reservoir maintenance until fire season (it may be simpler and less expensive, but ...)
  • Evolving building codes to remediate fires
There is no state in the country where the major transmission power lines are buried. They are always above ground. You can't bury them as they generate an excessive amount heat that needs to be dissipated. Once the power is stepped down to lower voltages as it is in local distribution power lines then yes you can bury those.
 

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Yeah but younger residents don't watch TV anymore and don't have Cable TV. They are tethered to their phones.

Bingo!

I watch the network local and national news but I've been told that information is now instantly on my cell phone
"There is no need to spend an hour watching old "legacy" TV news"
 

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Bingo!

I watch the network local and national news but I've been told that information is now instantly on my cell phone
"There is no need to spend an hour watching old "legacy" TV news"
I was going to ask - if you are worried about the weather, or even curious about the weather - why would you want to wait for a specific time each day to see a broadcast? What value is that. I want to know what temp it is outside when I'm walking out in 2 minutes, or if the storm that's 15 minutes away is going to miss or hit me. I can't imagine scheduling my day around when a local station decided to show the weather. I'd be more likely (slim to none but it has happened a few times in the last 20 years) to accidentally hear a 30 second update on the radio. I'm not even that young. But even my mom, who's 65, looks at the app on her phone for the current conditions or alerts that come whenever it's relevant.
 

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I was going to ask - if you are worried about the weather, or even curious about the weather - why would you want to wait for a specific time each day to see a broadcast? What value is that. I want to know what temp it is outside when I'm walking out in 2 minutes, or if the storm that's 15 minutes away is going to miss or hit me. I can't imagine scheduling my day around when a local station decided to show the weather. I'd be more likely (slim to none but it has happened a few times in the last 20 years) to accidentally hear a 30 second update on the radio. I'm not even that young. But even my mom, who's 65, looks at the app on her phone for the current conditions or alerts that come whenever it's relevant.
In tornado country, when there are severe storms, they break into programming at any time.

There are the complainers that b**ch and moan when they break into General Hospital or a rerun of Maury Povich or a first run episode of Grey's Anatomy because the storms are not in their particular area, but I don't mind because the people in the path of the storm(s) are getting vital information
 

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My older daughter told us at one time the way she figured out what the weather was was to go outside.
 

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Why would local TV stations bother to hire meteorologists? A college communications intern or some computer generated person can read the weather.
I kind of like the weather person I watched in Mexico. I couldn't really understand what she was saying but she was very easy on the eyes.

Bill
 

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Why? What is wrong with National Weather Service?
I don't think I said there was anything *wrong* with the Nat'l Weather Service. That said . . . when there is severe weather, I personally believe it is far better to have local people analyzing and reporting on the weather in their area, affecting their communities. Many of the tools used are developed by the NWS, but that is just one piece of the equation.

For anyone interested in learning about severe weather, from an academic perspective, I highly recommend the College of DuPage's program. I've taken a couple of courses with them, which have included "field study" with 10 days on the road analyzing, interpreting and experiencing such in real time. It is an amazing opportunity to learn and apply in your own life.
 
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In tornado country, when there are severe storms, they break into programming at any time.

There are the complainers that b**ch and moan when they break into General Hospital or a rerun of Maury Povich or a first run episode of Grey's Anatomy because the storms are not in their particular area, but I don't mind because the people in the path of the storm(s) are getting vital information
In 2025 isn't the best way to notify people is to send an emergency alert to their phone?
 

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I've always been interested in weather and was happy when the Weather Channel first went on air. Mike Seidel worked out at my gym and was the weekend weatherman at our Greenville station just prior to joining the Weather Channel. It has always been a great source for national weather that I often use for travel planning. However, it is not nearly as good for local weather and I'm fortunate to live in an area with several great local weather people. There are often differences between the forecasts from the local stations, but that is due to the difficulty of forecasting Cincinnati area weather. Weather can be very spotty with heavy storms in one location and no rain four miles away. Local forecasters are really critical in areas like ours because the reporters need to know the specifics of the region, and provide the appropriate information. I've also found the Weather Chanel to be no longer helpful during storms because they have too many other programs and often don't have the local radar available.
 

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In 2025 isn't the best way to notify people is to send an emergency alert to their phone?
That is still a wide blast notification, usually for an entire county. That is dandy to let you know SOMETHING is happening.

Local forecasting can give you the details of WHERE it is happening and WHEN it is happening.

Also, the phone notifications have turned into a NUISANCE! Even though I try to filter them out, they still come up with more types that sneak on through. Call me jaded, but if a police officer is shot in Houston, I'm not going to be on the lookout for the suspect in Dallas. Quite frankly, I'm not going to be on the lookout for ANY suspects, EVER. The same goes for Amber, Silver, Red, Blue, Mauve, Teal and Chartreuse Alerts. My phone is on permanent vibrate mode because of all the CRAP that everyone attempts to send me. I look at it every couple of hours, maybe. It is an asynchronous mode of communication.
 

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<<SNIPPED>> Local forecasters are really critical in areas like ours because the reporters need to know the specifics of the region, and provide the appropriate information. I've also found the Weather Chanel to be no longer helpful during storms because they have too many other programs and often don't have the local radar available.
THIS! Weather happens locally and affects people locally!
 

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That is still a wide blast notification, usually for an entire county. That is dandy to let you know SOMETHING is happening.

Local forecasting can give you the details of WHERE it is happening and WHEN it is happening.

Also, the phone notifications have turned into a NUISANCE! Even though I try to filter them out, they still come up with more types that sneak on through. Call me jaded, but if a police officer is shot in Houston, I'm not going to be on the lookout for the suspect in Dallas. Quite frankly, I'm not going to be on the lookout for ANY suspects, EVER. The same goes for Amber, Silver, Red, Blue, Mauve, Teal and Chartreuse Alerts. My phone is on permanent vibrate mode because of all the CRAP that everyone attempts to send me. I look at it every couple of hours, maybe. It is an asynchronous mode of communication.
Why can't the system send the alerts to the people directly in the path of the tornado? I mean they have access to the location of your phone. Also they should be able to override any settings you have for your phone in life or death type of situation with a unique alert.
 

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That is still a wide blast notification, usually for an entire county. That is dandy to let you know SOMETHING is happening.

Local forecasting can give you the details of WHERE it is happening and WHEN it is happening.

Also, the phone notifications have turned into a NUISANCE! Even though I try to filter them out, they still come up with more types that sneak on through. Call me jaded, but if a police officer is shot in Houston, I'm not going to be on the lookout for the suspect in Dallas. Quite frankly, I'm not going to be on the lookout for ANY suspects, EVER. The same goes for Amber, Silver, Red, Blue, Mauve, Teal and Chartreuse Alerts. My phone is on permanent vibrate mode because of all the CRAP that everyone attempts to send me. I look at it every couple of hours, maybe. It is an asynchronous mode of communication.
On Android you can pretty easily filter what apps can send you notifications just by longpressing on an offending notification and choosing settings. TBH I'm also forgetting that I don't have TV where I live, I refuse to pay for Cable (and would that get me local content anyway?) and can't get broadcast since 15 years ago when they went digital. So any TV thing is irrelevant. But even where you can get TV, there's many many people who it's a special occasion for them to specifically choose to turn on a broadcast / live channel. Their TVs are on Netflix, Youtube, just turned off... Whereas they always have their phones and they're on.

And the idea that these good weather apps are county wide is laughable. Tell me you haven't used Shadow Weather without telling me you haven't used Shadow weather. Same with My Radar. They're down to towns or address points, certainly the radar is precise to a mile or two. The few times I've been in a car dealership waiting for my car and weather has come on, it's like big town by big town over like 1/5 the state. Mostly it's what the temp currently is...

Our best "local weather guy" runs his own app / website - none of the TV channels have anything worth listening to. I just maintain, no one I know younger than me, or even around my age watches TV weather or has since the 1990s. We all talk about what app is the best for this year till it's bought out and made worthless. And this also gives me a pessimistic outlook - none of the actual useful weather reporting makes money so if we lose the NWS, I imagine we'll all be hoping the EU will share their predicting streams on some app because the paid versions that bought out the old good apps became useless in months to a year at best. I imagine this is mostly because no one is willing to pay $25 a month as a consumer for weather predictions so it's not profitable enough as a business in the US.
 

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Why can't the system send the alerts to the people directly in the path of the tornado? I mean they have access to the location of your phone. Also they should be able to override any settings you have for your phone in life or death type of situation with a unique alert.
Only if you opt in or they get a warrant. The government can't "legally" just track your phone to send you messages - that would get into court and likely thrown out in weeks to months. And if you do want to opt in, you don't need the government to do this, again free or cheap apps like Shadow Weather DO THIS RIGHT NOW.
 

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Our local news station isn't the best source of weather . I think AccuWeather does a better job. Most of the time I'm better than both by just looking outside. Today it will be clear, sunny and cold.

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Only if you opt in or they get a warrant. The government can't "legally" just track your phone to send you messages - that would get into court and likely thrown out in weeks to months. And if you do want to opt in, you don't need the government to do this, again free or cheap apps like Shadow Weather DO THIS RIGHT NOW.
True. But it would save lives. As you posted.... Using the TV to alert people of impending severe weather events in 2025 doesn't work. I dropped Cable TV 20 years ago and have no access to local TV news. I don't miss it because it was complete garbage and non-stop commercials. With the streaming services and internet you can block most of the commercials. Cable TV subscriptions are collapsing and very few younger people subscribe anymore. Most people getting Cable are older and that doesn't not bode well for its survival.
 

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Our local news station isn't the best source of weather . I think AccuWeather does a better job. Most of the time I'm better than both by just looking outside. Today it will be clear, sunny and cold.

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Nice. Even in Seattle this month it has been one sunny day after another. Very dry too. Almost like I'm in Yakima.
 

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THIS! Weather happens locally and affects people locally!
Two of our local stations have their own Doppler radar that are very accurate. If we have severe weather warnings, I can watch their radar to see if/when it is likely to hit in our neighborhood. I've learned to recognize the hook echo signature of a tornado, so I have a better idea when I really need to herd our dogs and cat into our small basement.
 

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That is still a wide blast notification, usually for an entire county. That is dandy to let you know SOMETHING is happening.

Local forecasting can give you the details of WHERE it is happening and WHEN it is happening.
I’m not sure this is true any longer Or, maybe, it depends on where you live. We’re in St Augustin, FL and the alerts we get from the Weather Channel app and Apple Weather apps are very specific. We had a tornado warning last spring that pinpointed exactly where the tornado was and the path.

Prior to moving here, we lived in the Birmingham, AL area and depended on the local weather people. The problem with that was the major station in town had a lead meteorologist who was very popular and could take over the airwaves whenever he wanted. He would do so sometimes during regular thunderstorms when he would simply continue saying there was a danger of wind damaging trees and structures. There would be no tornado watch or warning, simply a thunderstorm which if you weren’t sleeping soundly, or dead, you would know was happening. However, I have the same problem with the Weather Channel at times when I feel they make things appear worse than they are. Before retirement, I worked on a catastrophe response team for a major insurance company. I’ve seen many times when they would continually show a couple of damaged houses and indicate they were emblematic of a widespread area when they were the only homes with extensive damage.

I just wish they would report what has happened, where the damage is, where the danger is, and not try to scare people so they will keep watching. In my mind, that is unnecessary and causes even more panic and anxiety. Just my humble opinion.
 

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I remember a few years ago during an unusual major snow storm that hit the Willamette Valley that was not accurately predicted by KATU Portland (the local ABC outlet). Rhonda one of the Weather People actually said: "Our timing may be off but we are not wrong."
 

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Nice. Even in Seattle this month it has been one sunny day after another. Very dry too. Almost like I'm in Yakima.

It was an odd Fall season in Central Washington, especially here in Yakima. Nothing but fog every day from late September to Jan when suddenly the sun came out and the snow covered the Cascades. It is clear and sunny but last night when we got off the airplane it was only 18 degrees. I'm heading up Chinook Pass tomorrow to see if any trees have fallen on anything that matters to me.

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I feel they make things appear worse than they are.

100% they do. We were watching a major weather report from some well know reporter on ABC who was leaning and acting like the wind was blowing him over while a few people were in the background having no problems at all.

Bill
 

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100% they do. We were watching a major weather report from some well know reporter on ABC who was leaning and acting like the wind was blowing him over while a few people were in the background having no problems at all.

Bill
Maybe the wind was blowing at different speeds? In a tornado you will see some houses just leveled while a couple of houses away suffer no damage.
 
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