VIP Gold - what is the main benefit

[Ninjaneer80]

Hello everyone, so I have read over and over again the benefits of VIP benefits and thinking about buying into GOLD thru PIC program.

What's the biggest benefit of going VIP ??

I don't have my resale gone thru yet, and don't see what the biggest benefit of VIP Is yet.

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[Jan M.]

Important Information about VIP Membership

• Your VIP benefits apply only when vacationing at one of our Wyndham-managed resorts.
• Guests traveling without a CLUB WYNDHAM® Plus VIP Owner present are not eligible to receive VIP benefits during their stay.
• VIP program benefits are offered to CLUB WYNDHAM® Plus Members allocated at least 400,000 CLUB WYNDHAM Plus points on an annual basis.
• For Members with Biennial Ownership your VIP membership eligibility is based on half of your biennial allotment of eligible point’s counts toward VIP status.

VIP BOOKING BENEFITS
Exclusive Vacation Planning Benefits
CLUB WYNDHAM Silver Owner
400,000 - 699,999 Points
CLUB WYNDHAM Gold Owner
700,000 - 999,999 Points
CLUB WYNDHAM Platinum Owner
1,000,000 Points or More

Points Discounts within 2 Months of Check-in (1) Numbers in parenthesis are the disclaimers
• Receive discounts on NEW reservations only at CLUB WYNDHAM Plus and Affiliate locations
25% - 35% - 50%

VIP Upgrade Opt-In Feature Size Upgrades (1,3,6)
• When you confirm a reservation, you may opt in to receive an automatic upgrade to the next largest unit if it becomes available during your upgrade window.
Silver - Within 1 month of check-in date
Gold - Within 45 days of check-in date
Platinum - Within 2 months of check-in date

Guest Confirmations (8)
• Receive Guest Confirmations each calendar year to share with family and friends.
5 - 10 - 15 per 1,000,000 eligible points

Unlimited Housekeeping Credits
• No charge for Housekeeping Credits when making a reservation.
Yes - Yes - Yes

Free Reservation Transactions
• Receive unlimited Reservation Transactions at no additional charge.
No - Yes - Yes

Ability to Reserve Specific Units (1,2)
• Request a specific unit number when making reservations.
No - Yes - Yes

Worldwide External Exchange Deposit Unit Size Upgrades (1)
• Upgrade to the next largest unit on all Value and Quiet season deposits.
No - Yes - Yes

RCI® Instant Search and Book Feature
• Instantly search and book your desired vacation with the amount of points immediately available in your CLUB WYNDHAM Plus account.
No - Yes - Yes

Reciprocal Advance Reservation Priority (1,4,5)
• Confirm reservations outside your “home” resort at other CLUB WYNDHAM Plus locations up to 11 months in advance of check-in.
None - 2 times per year - 3 times per year

Points Deposit Feature Extension
• Receive additional time after the start of your Use Year to deposit points into a future Use Year with CLUB WYNDHAM.
Silver - Within the first 6 months of your Use Year
Gold - Within the first 9 months of your Use Year
Platinum - Anytime within your Use Year

Extended PlusPartners® Travel Booking Window (1)
• Receive an additional 15 days to book PlusPartners' travel reservations.
None - None - 10 months to 45 days in advance of travel date

Access to Margaritaville Vacation Club® by Wyndham Resort Inventory (1,7)
Silver - Beginning 6 months prior to check-in date (Value and High seasons only)
Gold - Beginning 8 months prior to check-in date
Platinum - Beginning 10 months prior to check-in date

Adventures
• Enjoy Wyndham-hosted trips during the Standard Reservation window.
Yes - Yes - Yes

Advance Reservation Priority – Select Associate Locations (1)
• Confirm reservations up to 13 months in advance of check-in at Select Associate Locations.
2 times per year - 4 times per year - Unlimited

DISCLAIMERS:
1 Subject to availability.
2 Available only at Wyndham Vacation Resorts-managed locations.
3 Upgrades are available within the same resort only, limit of one upgrade per reservation apply.
4 The following holidays/special events are blacked out for this benefit: Easter/Spring Break, Fourth of July, Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year's Eve and June through August at Myrtle Beach locations.
5 Eligible Reciprocal resorts include non-CLUB WYNDHAM® Presidential Reserve Suites® at UDI locations.
6 Available only at CLUB WYNDHAM Plus resorts.
7 At the Standard Reservation window, a minimum of 50 percent of Margaritaville Vacation Club resort inventory will be held exclusively for VIP members. VIP members can access this inventory at different time lines based upon their VIP tier.
8 Eligible points are points associated with ownership interests purchased directly through Wyndham Vacation Resorts or its affiliates, Bonus Points and PIC enrollments.

*VIP Program Benefits are subject to change without notice.

 

[Ninjaneer80]

Ok, so I have read all this before and trying to ask in someone's own words , if i am going to pay to get VIP, what's the biggest benefit that makes it worth it ?



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[Cyrus24]

The ones that are most important to me are:
- Discounts
- Upgrades
- No Housekeeping, which makes short stays very affordable
- Free RT's, lets you test and play with reservations and upgrade
- 9 Month Window on Deposits to Future years
- Margaritaville
Of lesser importance to me are:
- RARP
- Selecting specific units

Is it worth it? Getting to VIP is a very personal decision. And, only the owner can judge the value based on his or her personal rationale. In other words, don't judge a persons decision to become VIP.

You are headed down the most efficient path toward VIP and that should help you define value in your own personal terms.

 

[55plus]

Ok, so I have read all this before and trying to ask in someone's own words , if i am going to pay to get VIP, what's the biggest benefit that makes it worth it ?
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if you consider your bank account will be tens of thousands of dollars lighter a good thing, then this.

 

[Ninjaneer80]

The ones that are most important to me are:
- Discounts
- Upgrades
- No Housekeeping, which makes short stays very affordable
- Free RT's, lets you test and play with reservations and upgrade
- 9 Month Window on Deposits to Future years
- Margaritaville
Of lesser importance to me are:
- RARP
- Selecting specific units

Is it worth it? Getting to VIP is a very personal decision. And, only the owner can judge the value based on his or her personal rationale. In other words, don't judge a persons decision to become VIP.

You are headed down the most efficient path toward VIP and that should help you define value in your own personal terms.

Thank you for that , that is the type of response I was looking for , just trying to understand what is important to each person.


I agree , each person is different of why it's important and i am trying see each person's point of view then figure out for myself what i find important

Untill i get access to my ownership, I can only ask so many questions and just trying to educate myself as much as possible until then



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[Ninjaneer80]

if you consider your bank account will be tens of thousands of dollars lighter a good thing, then this.

You mean lighter as in using PIC to go VIP ?


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[Cyrus24]

You mean lighter as in using PIC to go VIP ?


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Getting to VIP is not cheap, you wallet will be lighter. That said, usng PIC and Telesales will save you a bundle over buying and upgrading at the sales office.

 

[Cyrus24]

This is a must read thread if you are thinking about PIC as you go toward VIP-G. We watched Hitchhiker71 go from buyers remorse to temporary VIP-P, long term VIP-G. It's 7 pages long, but you will grab some real like examples as to how/why people value their VIP standing.
https://tugbbs.com/forums/index.php...llation-period-need-some-quick-advice.275991/

 

[HitchHiker71]

This is a must read thread if you are thinking about PIC as you go toward VIP-G. We watched Hitchhiker71 go from buyers remorse to temporary VIP-P, long term VIP-G. It's 7 pages long, but you will grab some real like examples as to how/why people value their VIP standing.
https://tugbbs.com/forums/index.php...llation-period-need-some-quick-advice.275991/

Well, that’s me LOL. I’m about six months into my ownership now after obtaining VIPP thru Sept 2020 and permanent VIPG. I spent about 25k to do this. Feel free to PM me if you have questions after reviewing my thread linked above.

I’d say the biggest benefit so far is the 60 day discount booking window coupled with the free instant upgrades. Most bookings I’ve made to date (most during off season to be clear), I’ve been able to book within the 60 day window and received a free instant upgrade to a larger unit. That means I’m saving 50% on points, at least, and that doesn’t take into account free unit size upgrade. Unlimited RTs and HKs also helps from a savings standpoint.

That said, if you are looking to book vacations during prime seasons, chances are you won’t find availability within the 60 day window and instant upgrades are unlikely.

For us, we are fairly flexible on when we take vacations, often choosing to take time away during the value or high seasons when availability isn’t as limited. We don’t like huge crowds of people as a general rule so this approach works well for us. For many of our friends though, they like to take vacations during prime seasons, so the biggest benefits for VIP wouldn’t apply for example.

Other benefits like the ability to request specific units, we will use more frequently as time moves forward and we visit more resorts and figure out what rooms we would prefer at each resort location. We make it a point to evaluate each resort so that if we ever return, we know what rooms to request.

If we ever start renting points, I’m sure the extra GCs will come in handy as well.


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[Ninjaneer80]

What is RT ?

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[Ninjaneer80]

Well, that’s me LOL. I’m about six months into my ownership now after obtaining VIPP thru Sept 2020 and permanent VIPG. I spent about 25k to do this. Feel free to PM me if you have questions after reviewing my thread linked above.

I’d say the biggest benefit so far is the 60 day discount booking window coupled with the free instant upgrades. Most bookings I’ve made to date (most during off season to be clear), I’ve been able to book within the 60 day window and received a free instant upgrade to a larger unit. That means I’m saving 50% on points, at least, and that doesn’t take into account free unit size upgrade. Unlimited RTs and HKs also helps from a savings standpoint.

That said, if you are looking to book vacations during prime seasons, chances are you won’t find availability within the 60 day window and instant upgrades are unlikely.

For us, we are fairly flexible on when we take vacations, often choosing to take time away during the value or high seasons when availability isn’t as limited. We don’t like huge crowds of people as a general rule so this approach works well for us. For many of our friends though, they like to take vacations during prime seasons, so the biggest benefits for VIP wouldn’t apply for example.

Other benefits like the ability to request specific units, we will use more frequently as time moves forward and we visit more resorts and figure out what rooms we would prefer at each resort location. We make it a point to evaluate each resort so that if we ever return, we know what rooms to request.

If we ever start renting points, I’m sure the extra GCs will come in handy as well.


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Great post and everyone a
Replying ! All great information

We have 4 kids ( 18, 16, 10, 6)

1 kid in USA schools , 2 kids in UK school and 1 kid in UK college

So finding time we can all vacation is a challenge right now but i want to start vacationing at least once or twice a year.

Even though it's a loss, I don't care if i deposit my Wyndham points into RCI to stay some where overseas. Casue i want this long term and want to force myself.to take the family on vacation every year.

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[HitchHiker71]

What is RT ?

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Reservation Transactions.


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[Cyrus24]

What is RT ?

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RT=Reservation Transaction. You get 1/per 77K points. After you use them all, you will pay $19 per.

Based on your travel interests, you really need to investigate an RCI points property (for your EU stays) and some Wyndham resale points (for your US stays). I started with resale on both the RCI side and the Wyndham side. Cheap way of learning about the 2 systems. You're young and you are going to be using your timeshares for many years. After doing some low cost purchases consider the benefits of VIP.

Again, I won't judge your route. The fact that you are asking questions, now, tells me that you are going to make the decision which is correct for you.

 

[Cyrus24]

Side note to NINJANEER80, join TUG, you are going to be here for a while, I suspect. Members are doing their part to help keep the platform and forums up and running......It's a very small fee.....

 

[HitchHiker71]

Great post and everyone a
Replying ! All great information

We have 4 kids ( 18, 16, 10, 6)

1 kid in USA schools , 2 kids in UK school and 1 kid in UK college

So finding time we can all vacation is a challenge right now but i want to start vacationing at least once or twice a year.

Even though it's a loss, I don't care if i deposit my Wyndham points into RCI to stay some where overseas. Casue i want this long term and want to force myself.to take the family on vacation every year.

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Where do you anticipate vacationing with your family? I noticed you have two kids in school in the UK hence my question.

Wyndham is primarily a US based company. Almost all of the resorts are US based right now. Worldmark has more locations outside of the US from what I understand. Of course you can book into RCI as well. Just curious why you are looking at Wyndham specifically? Do you already own Wyndham resale or any other timeshare contracts?


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[Ninjaneer80]

Side note to NINJANEER80, join TUG, you are going to be here for a while, I suspect. Members are doing their part to help keep the platform and forums up and running......It's a very small fee.....

Don't worry, I paid the fee and joined TUG on day one

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[bnoble]

From a pure dollars-and-cents standpoint, VIP is very hard to justify, even via telesales/PIC. That doesn't mean someone won't find value in it. However, that value is likely to be intangible.

 

[Jan M.]

We have 4 kids ( 18, 16, 10, 6)

I noticed that you have one kid in school here in the USA. So I'm guessing you know the cost of flights. My first thought when I saw that you are a family of 6 was wow, that is going to be expensive if they are planning on vacationing in the USA regularly. That Wyndham points might not be the best option for you and owning at a resort in RCI points might be a better choice. However with a family of six you are going to find more availability in 3 bedroom units at different resorts with Wyndham than you will through RCI. When you book Wyndham resorts as an RCI owner you won't see many three bedroom units, mostly one and two bedroom units. As other people pointed out you will have to deposit your Wyndham points in RCI to book the European vacations you mentioned wanting.

 

[55plus]

Instead of spending all that money up front, consider renting from someone on TUG. You can spell out the size of unit, the location, timeframe, etc., in TUG. It's an option if you vacation when school is out. In the summer discounts and upgrades are almost impossible at popular and at high demand locations. If you plan to vacation off season, VIP can pay for itself over time. We spend the entire winter at half points and free upgrades.

 

[vacationhopeful]

There are many other timeshares other than Wyndham.

I also own at a VRI Resort near the beach in Ft Lauderdale, FL. The 2 bdr room lockoff units sleep 8 with MFs of about $880 US per week owned; the 1 bdr unit sleeps 6 but there are 2 sizes of those .. 1 with a single bath; the other with a bath & a half.

The cruise port is either the largest or 2nd largest in the USA. The Ft Lauderdale Internationla Airport is LARGE due to the cruise port. This resort .. Ft Lauderdale Beach Resort can be traded within RCI or II ... but not II that particular unit was converted to RCI Points. Great shopping as many people travel from the islands or Central America to shop. Lots of variety for dining out. Large public transportation system due to a retired & older population and the vast numbers of services provided to the tourists in dining and hotels industry (bus passes can be brought or the day or week or month).

You can find resale units .. you might decide to acquire 2 "back to back" 2/2 weeks. One in RCI Points (for single day or less than a week reservations) and the other, in RCI weeks ... so as to join Interval International as a trading platform. In both systems, you can 'split' the lockoff unit ... to have access to the 3 largest trading platforms (RCI Weeks, RCI Points and II). You can also decide to deposit the RCI Weeks' unit into International Interval to get access to II affiliated resorts.

Just remember, a unit in RCI Points can NOT be traded via II. BUT if you don't like RCI Points, you can 'drop' that RCI Pts association .. but if you do, you will lose any used RCI points and it will cost your thousands of dollars to convert back.

 

[raygo123]

Clarification,. I could afford, without affecting any other portions of my long term goals for the entirety of my life. That said what I like is there are no extra fees. I own a deed at National Harbor and CWA. ( Buy what you want, not what they want you to buy. Last year I used my RARP to book Clearwater Beach, at 11 months rather than 10. His year I I booked one week ARP Sea Garden under CWA, and a second week using my RARP. I did no use the second RARP. I have 2 PIC with gold. I never used them.theyvare in Mexico and only pay maintenance fees when I use them. Those are the big ones.

This, might, don't know is a true benefit, but I deposited 130,000 points into RCI and received 230,000 points. I do not know if this is a benefit or mistake.

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[CruiseGuy]

It's a lot of extra money for a handful of benefits that really don't provide much in the terms of payback. Having unlimited housekeeping and reservation transactions are nice. I've never used a guest certificate myself, so having more of those is almost meaningless unless you rent or treat family to use of your points. The only one that's really going to give you hope of payback is if you can get use of discounted points and upgrades, which really means having some flexibility in your travel plans. The people that I routinely hear brag about their platinum paying back (not including the mega-renters from a couple years back) are those that travel a lot throughout the year and work to get those point discounts and upgrades because the have the time and flexibility to do so. It would need to be the same with the gold. (Oh, and you better have the cash available to pay for your Wyndham purchases, because it's hard to make a case for payback if you've also had to pay interest on a loan.)

 

[paxsarah]

This, might, don't know is a true benefit, but I deposited 130,000 points into RCI and received 230,000 points. I do not know if this is a benefit or mistake.

Did you call or make the deposit online? If you did it by phone, it’s possible that you got an agent who not only knew and understood the VIP RCI upgrade benefit (as discussed in various threads - edit: here is the most recent https://tugbbs.com/forums/index.php?threads/did-not-get-rci-upgrade-on-value-season-deposit.283407/), but who proactively implemented it on your behalf. Otherwise, I have no idea!

 

[raygo123]

I did it on line this spring. Yes I read the other post.

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