Video San Francisco Pulse

[gln60]

I will both agree……..and disagree.

Personally, my opinion is the media hype is just that, hype. The problem is no better or worse than most major metropolitan areas we’ve traveled too. There was a couple of times I adjusted my walking route due to a mentally I’ll person having an argument/fight with no one but the air in front of them, but I’ve had to do that in other cities as well, including Las Vegas, which has seen a very notable decline since we started going in 1998.

OTOH, we have to many family/friends who once visited SF regularly. One of which worked for Levi’s and was required to travel back/forth from Dallas on a regular basis. All have parroted the same sentiment. The city is a far cry from what it was several years ago and all, without fail, blame the politics of the city. Right or wrong it’s hard to ignore such sentiments, but we still enjoy the city and will return.

It’s not so much the homeless situation in SF…many large cities have that issue….its the Justice system that allows felons and drug abusers back on the streets of SF soon after being arrested with NO CONSEQUENCES.

 

[CalGalTraveler]

It’s not so much the homeless situation in SF…many large cities have that issue….its the Justice system that allows felons and drug abusers back on the streets of SF soon after being arrested with NO CONSEQUENCES.

You are working off of outdated information. The soft on crime DA was recalled by voters last year. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_San_Francisco_District_Attorney_recall_election

I have walked all over the city several times in the past year and have not seen any poop. Urban legend?

I do wish they would fix the homeless problem but no different than any other American city. Very sad. The tourist areas like Fishermans wharf are kept clear though.

My daughter lives and works in the city. I am not worried more than any city. In fact the city is chock full of twenty somethings. ChatGPT and dozens of AI startups are now based there. Major tech companies are based there too. They now call Hayes Valley "Cerebral Valley" because of all the AI startups and the newly attracted young talent that is working on the next gold rush. Its vibrant and exciting.

But from your posts you do not seem not know that because you would rather lob outdated second-hand news stories from a Lazy Boy.

I encourage you to visit and report first-hand before making another second-hand observation.

 

[jwalk03]

I live in San Francisco, and while we have at least our share of urban problems, it’s clear that most of the people here who are bashing SF are simply parroting nonsense they have seen or heard, probably from media sources with some kind of political agenda. I don’t think there is a “poop map” – and certainly no need for one – and we have very little violent crime. We do have too much property crime and a too-accepting attitude toward it, but that seems to be changing. Overall, SF is still a safe place to visit, but you’ll want to take the same kind of precautions you’d want to take in any urban place, like don’t leave valuables visible in your rental car.

The poop map is very real- though outdated.

Mapping San Francisco's Human Waste Challenge - 132,562 Cases Reported In The Public Way Since 2008

New mayor, London Breed, won election by promising to clean things up. However, conditions are the same or worse. Last year, the number of reports spiked to an all-time high at 28,084. In first quarter 2019, the pace continued with 6,676 instances of human waste in the public way.

www.forbes.com

 

[pedro47]

If the cruise ships dock along the Warf then it would be perfect pre-post cruise. Celebrity Millennium was in port one day during our stay. My assumption was it was a port stop on a repositioning cruise as they moved the ship up to Seattle or. Vancouver for the Alaska cruise season. There really wasn’t a cruise terminal that I saw worthy of embarkation or disembarking passengers, but I could be wrong

Thanks for sharing this information, Im now looking at cruising out of SF or flying out of SF to Hawaii.

 

[Snazzylass]

I live in San Francisco, and while we have at least our share of urban problems, it’s clear that most of the people here who are bashing SF are simply parroting nonsense they have seen or heard, probably from media sources with some kind of political agenda. I don’t think there is a “poop map” – and certainly no need for one – and we have very little violent crime. We do have too much property crime and a too-accepting attitude toward it, but that seems to be changing. Overall, SF is still a safe place to visit, but you’ll want to take the same kind of precautions you’d want to take in any urban place, like don’t leave valuables visible in your rental car.

What is it? 7 miles East & West? 7 miles North & South? It's not a monolith. Your last statement is a biggie no matter where you live in SF. Sure there are some places you can go and the homeless are less of an issue, but man, things have gone downhill in the last few years and there is no getting around that.

Maybe things are a little better than they were a couple of years ago, but the big change in commercial real estate and downtown retail is hurting the vibrancy of any city. I've seen this other places, too. Gone are the daily commuters and downtown office workers. Big game changer. Those are the people who kept the city safe for tourists and convention visitors. And, that's true everywhere

 

[CalGalTraveler]

The poop map is very real- though outdated.

Mapping San Francisco's Human Waste Challenge - 132,562 Cases Reported In The Public Way Since 2008

New mayor, London Breed, won election by promising to clean things up. However, conditions are the same or worse. Last year, the number of reports spiked to an all-time high at 28,084. In first quarter 2019, the pace continued with 6,676 instances of human waste in the public way.

www.forbes.com

Indeed this map exists on the !nternet. But like many things on the Internet is it fact or fiction? Just because it is on the Internet does not make it real.

Who created it? Could it have been a teenager in Akron in a basement?

If it was real, how do the creators know for sure it was not dog poop? Think about it...

I've seen homelessness but have never seen poop on SF sidewalks. I would rather trust first-hand accounts from Tuggers than the Internet.

 

[dougp26364]

Thanks for sharing this information, Im now looking at cruising out of SF or flying out of SF to Hawaii.

NOT a good choice to fly out of SF. Way too far out from the airport. You’d spend 35 minutes on BART, then transfer to the F line at Embracardo station, take the F line to the end of the line stop by Fisherman’s Wharf and finally walk 2 blocks to the entrance of Pulse.
To catch your flight you’d have to do that in reverse and pray there were no delays along the way. It would be one thing with a Rick Steves style back pack. It would be nearly impossible with a full-size suitcase. The alternative is Uber, Lyft, taxi or a town car.
You’re better off at one of the Marriott family of hotels near SFO. We’ve stayed at the Westin and the Marriott Waterfront. Both are very nice

 

[Mlvnsmly]

I've seen human waste and I've seen people in the act. I e also seen used needles as well as heroin/crack use. A colleague saw someone masturbating on the sidewalk. I was there in both 2019 and 2022. Its a very picturesque city, but there are certainly some major issues facing it.

 

[pedro47]

NOT a good choice to fly out of SF. Way too far out from the airport. You’d spend 35 minutes on BART, then transfer to the F line at Embracardo station, take the F line to the end of the line stop by Fisherman’s Warf and finally walk 2 blocks to the entrance of Pulse.
To catch your flight you’d have to do that in reverse and pray there were no delays along the way. It would be one thing with a Rick Steves style back pack. It would be nearly impossible with a full-size suitcase. The alternative is Uber, Lyft, taxi or a town car.
You’re better off at one of the Marriott family of hotels near SFO. We’ve stayed at the Westin and the Marriott Waterfront. Both are very nice

Thanks, Dougp26364, for sharing your post.
Your advice and information is right on point. I got it loud and clear for an old man.

 

[TheTimeTraveler]

Thanks, Dougp26364, for sharing your post.
Your advice and information is right on point. I got it loud and clear for an old man.

Think about flying out of San Diego when traveling to Hawaii........



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[pedro47]

Last year,we flew out of San Diego on Southwest Airlines.

 

[Superchief]

We lived in Concord, CA near SF in the late 80's for a few years. We really enjoyed living there but it became too expensive after our first daughter was born (mortgage rates were 13.5% adjustable at the time). We moved back to the Midwest but would visit the Bay area every few years. We usually stayed at the Renaissance Club Sport hotel in Pleasant Hill across from the BART station. It was easy to travel to the city on BART and rent a car for our Napa and Sonoma visits. That hotel also has access to an extensive health club with fitness center and pool, and is close to Walnut Creek. We last travelled there the fall prior to Covid and noticed needles and a lot more trash in the BART stations and several people sleeping on the trains. We also encountered a lot more aggressive panhandlers than in the past. We haven't been back since and hope things get better. I'd really like to try the Ritz at some point in the future.

 

[gln60]

You are working off of outdated information. The soft on crime DA was recalled by voters last year. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_San_Francisco_District_Attorney_recall_election

I have walked all over the city several times in the past year and have not seen any poop. Urban legend?

I do wish they would fix the homeless problem but no different than any other American city. Very sad. The tourist areas like Fishermans wharf are kept clear though.

My daughter lives and works in the city. I am not worried more than any city. In fact the city is chock full of twenty somethings. ChatGPT and dozens of AI startups are now based there. Major tech companies are based there too. They now call Hayes Valley "Cerebral Valley" because of all the AI startups and the newly attracted young talent that is working on the next gold rush. Its vibrant and exciting.

But from your posts you do not seem not know that because you would rather lob outdated second-hand news stories from a Lazy Boy.

I encourage you to visit and report first-hand before making another second-hand observation.

Fair enough about a new DA in SF……i hope for San Franciscans sake…things will turn around..sooner rather than later….btw…I never said anything about poop anywhere…try to stay calm and read who posted what...hysterics do not help your rants.

 

[gln60]

 

[CalGalTraveler]

We did see homeless here and there in the vicinity of the Pulse,what concerns me the most,is the revolving door Justice system in SF that allows felons and drug abusers back on street soon after being arrested with no consequences…thats a no go for us,no matter what city it is.

It’s not so much the homeless situation in SF…many large cities have that issue….its the Justice system that allows felons and drug abusers back on the streets of SF soon after being arrested with NO CONSEQUENCES.

Ah yes...Taking your suggestion and re-reading what you posted above, I see repeating comments such as "with NO CONSEQUENCES" in ALL CAPs as the epitome of a non-hysteric, calm rant...duly noted.

 

[BigDawgTUG]

For one woman's story about how she has seen the City change, and how it has affected her son, this is an interesting read:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/14/us/san-francisco-drugs-homeless-sidner-tws/index.html

 

[dougp26364]

We lived in Concord, CA near SF in the late 80's for a few years. We really enjoyed living there but it became too expensive after our first daughter was born (mortgage rates were 13.5% adjustable at the time). We moved back to the Midwest but would visit the Bay area every few years. We usually stayed at the Renaissance Club Sport hotel in Pleasant Hill across from the BART station. It was easy to travel to the city on BART and rent a car for our Napa and Sonoma visits. That hotel also has access to an extensive health club with fitness center and pool, and is close to Walnut Creek. We last travelled there the fall prior to Covid and noticed needles and a lot more trash in the BART stations and several people sleeping on the trains. We also encountered a lot more aggressive panhandlers than in the past. We haven't been back since and hope things get better. I'd really like to try the Ritz at some point in the future.

We’ve been twice in the last two years and we’ve taken the BART in/out of the airport to downtown. Maybe we were fortunate, but there wasn’t any issues with homeless sleeping on the trains or in the stations. Didn’t see any drug paraphernalia either. We did encounter a trio of young teens who were acting as young teens. Annoying sure but harmless. Once, on the F line, homeboy decided to crank up the jams for the entire trolly to listen too, but that’s happened only once. Nothing we’ve seen in SF was any worse than any other city we visit. I’ve seen worse in Chicago and Kansas City than what we’ve experienced in SF.

 

[ljmiii]

We’ve been twice in the last two years and we’ve taken the BART in/out of the airport to downtown. Maybe we were fortunate, but there wasn’t any issues with homeless sleeping on the trains or in the stations. Didn’t see any drug paraphernalia either....Nothing we’ve seen in SF was any worse than any other city we visit. I’ve seen worse in Chicago and Kansas City than what we’ve experienced in SF.

Over the past couple of years our experiences have been similar. From the RCC on Market St. we've taken BART over to Berkeley, walked up and down Market, around SOMA, up to Union Square and Chinatown, etc. We've seen shuttered businesses and homeless but never anyone defecating on the sidewalk...or any human waste for that matter. That said, (and thankfully) on our last trip we saw that new businesses had opened in some of the storefronts.

 

[Venter]

This incident in question happened about a week ago in Downtown San Francisco. The homeless man walked in the building and did not want to leave. He was escorted outside where he then mooned the lobby. | Mr Badly Productions | NewsBreak Original

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[gln60]

Impossible……it’s all media hype…..LOL

 

[Venter]

According to Dave Chappelle he witnessed a human defecating infront of a restaurant, but this may just be made up for his stand up routine.

The point is that not seeing it does not meen it isn't happening.

I don't have a beef with either side of the argument but believe we should stop dismissing each other and acknowledge everybody's difficulties and opinions to start a decent conversation.

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[gln60]

Agree 100%

 

[Venter]

And lastly, because it happens everywhere else does not make it right and therefore we do not need to do anything about it.

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[CalGalTraveler]

SF is pristine, said no one on this thread. No one said the homeless situation was right. We are talking about a big US city, so could happen anywhere. Although I don't care to see him mooning, he was successfully removed from the building for trespassing. (Yes, California does remove trespassers.) If he was brandishing a gun or threatening, he would have been arrested on the spot because carrying is illegal in SF unless you have a permit and pass background checks. If he was carrying for example in Texas, then they couldn't arrest him. Would you like to see mentally ill homeless walking around with guns?

 

[Venter]

SF is pristine, said no one on this thread. No one said the homeless situation was right. We are talking about a big US city, so could happen anywhere. Although I don't care to see this, he was successfully removed from the building for trespassing. (Yes, California does remove trespassers.) If he was brandishing a gun or threatening, he would have been arrested on the spot because carrying is illegal in SF unless you have a permit and pass background checks. If he was carrying for example in Texas, then they couldn't arrest him. Would you like to see mentally ill homeless walking around with guns?

I would not like to see any mentally ill person walking around with a gun, homeless or not. How do we determine mentally ill though. Sometimes someone can mask there mental illness very well and snap for no reason. Gun carrying and ownership are sticky conversations with multiple viewpoints and not necessarily any one is the right. People have to come to some consensus that causes the least harm to communities and individuals.