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{UNLOCKED] Wyndham notice RE commercial use

In the past I've said repeatedly that the glut of owners renting at bargain basement prices compared to what Extra Holidays charges would be an issue for Wyndham. That they've invested too much time and money into developing, advertising and operating Extra Holidays to not eventually have to do something about it. One doesn't have to be a business whiz to understand that.

I haven't been a fan of Extra Holidays in the past but I'm learning from friends who are now using EH that things have changed.

Here's some things to consider.

1. Owners who rent for less than Extra Holidays gets devalue the product. That not only hurts EH but also other owners.

2. If an owner is using a point manager the point managers are making at least 40%.

3. Extra Holidays can advertise the rentals and sell them in more ways than the owner or point manager can. EH is selling owners stays on the different travel sites; not just on the EH website.

4. If the entire reservation doesn't get sold but some or all of the remaining nights do later sell Extra Holidays is now paying the owners for those nights. I don't know when this change came about but it's huge plus for owners. Also from what I learned the owner isn't being charged for the additional housekeeping credits if those other nights sell.

5. Extra Holidays offers security to the buyer that they don't get when they rent directly from owners and point managers. Some of you might not be aware that there's been a number of issues and I'm not talking about a few isolated incidents. This is something the heavily rented resorts in particular deal with and have reported up the chain of command.

6. Wyndham is allowing owners who've gotten "the letters" to rent through EH.

7. But I'll have to deal with reporting it on my taxes if I use EH! Unless the buyer is paying the owner in cash or by check for their rental using the payment sites/apps isn't a way around that anymore or not for much longer.

8. Owners always have the option to call in and cancel a reservation if no part of it rented as long as it's still 15 days before the check in date. However if the owner has a good reservation EH reps are advising that there's a lot of people buying stays with two weeks of the check in date. This is something the mega renters and point managers know and why they find it worthwhile not to cancel some reservations that haven't yet rented.

9. Extra Holidays reps have lists of resorts and dates that are needed to help owners with what to book. From what I was told they will not take reservations for stays on the Owner Priority lists. Also the reservation only has to be 30 days out now not 60 days like it used to be.

10. The buyers being allowed to cancel with 14 days is still a major concern for owners who use Extra Holidays. I'm sure that Wyndham is working on a solution. Is there already an option for the reservation to be purchased as refundable or nonrefundable? Although anyone who rents on their own either has or eventually will have to deal with a buyer who has a death in the family, an accident or illness that makes the family unable to go, weather related issues, etc.

This is all wonderful information to share. Is this "officially" published or anchored anywhere by CW?
I do trust this post, having it anchored takes it to the next level of validation
 
The only one that has suggested that there is a partnership between Wyndham and short term owner rental sites is you. You assured us that there was such a partnership because someone who you won't name told you so. And now you are calling it a "so called partnership"? How the heck would we know if it is a trap when the only evidence presented of its existence is from your "so called sources" and we have no clue what such a partnership letter may or may not say. By all means take you own bait if you have the time.
Well now you can take it from my mouth and not what someone told me. Now that I got done with quarterly payroll taxes, I submitted 5 listings for approval and three have been approved. Oops make that 5. Two more were just approved. I have attached the notice that I received. I hope it works.
 

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Well now you can take it from my mouth and not what someone told me. Now that I got done with quarterly payroll taxes, I submitted 3 listings for approval and all have been approved.

On 10/22 you posted in this thread that you were still in Florida - and that you were renting from other owners because you had already used up all of your 2022 and 2023 points. Are you now saying you created five more rental listings using points you already said you didn’t have?


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On 10/22 you posted in this thread that you were still in Florida - and that you were renting from other owners because you had already used up all of your 2022 and 2023 points. Are you now saying you created five more rental listings using points you already said you didn’t have?


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No. I submitted the 5 resort listings for future use to list any short term rentals. Starting Jan 1 I can borrow against my 2024 points if I want to rent. I had to Nov 20th to get the resorts approved by Wyndham. If not approved by Nov 20th, they would remove my listing from the short term rental sites. I have the resorts listed even if I do not have any open dates available.
 
Well now you can take it from my mouth and not what someone told me. Now that I got done with quarterly payroll taxes, I submitted 5 listings for approval and three have been approved. Oops make that 5. Two more were just approved. I have attached the notice that I received. I hope it works.

It doesn't. It is gobbledygook -- what we have come to expect from you.
 
No. I submitted the 5 resort listings for future use to list any short term rentals. Starting Jan 1 I can borrow against my 2024 points if I want to rent. I had to Nov 20th to get the resorts approved by Wyndham. If not approved by Nov 20th, they would remove my listing from the short term rental sites. I have the resorts listed even if I do not have any open dates available.
I clicked on what you posted. It’s a txt file that isn’t clear. Can you upload a pdf?
 
If anyone who agrees with me wants to see what I am talking about, PM with a phone number or email. I will send a screen shot of the notice I received and a email of the approval I received. My camera is broken, and I only have a flip phone. I will also send you a screen shot of my rental income this year using my 2022 and 2023 points. But please I ask one thing, when you confirm that I am correct, PLEASE PLEASE rub it in the faces of my critics.
 
Do not open the document RENTER attached. It could be somehow tracking those who are trying to open it. I have it on good authority, another TUG member.
 
There are always some who try to impress others with lies and BS. When caught in a lie they try to lie their way out of it. Eventually they forget what lies they told and have to lie again to coverup it up. In reality it shows ignorance and stupidity on their part. And in some cases, which it looks like this is one of them, they get off on what they are doing. Sad, very sad.
 
MODERATOR POST:

All - I am officially investigating the claims in this thread and have performed some due diligence and have concerns - I am therefore "pausing" this thread until I complete my investigation. Once my investigation is complete I may or may not re-open this thread for further replies. Thanks in advance for your understanding on this matter - if anyone has questions - feel free to DM me of course.
 
All, given the recent thread regarding some type of Wyndham/Airbnb partnership here: https://tugbbs.com/forums/threads/your-building-welcomes-hosting-on-airbnb.345824/

I have unlocked this thread for further comment and discussion. While @RENTER hasn't really shared any details- the above listed thread actually contains some of the details we have been after. What we would like to understand moving forward is if this new program is limited to fixed weeks only - or if this new program is somehow eligible for points ownerships as well? I've already made an inquiry into my Wyndham contacts seeking clarity on the nature of this program and any details that Wyndham can share publicly. I hope to hear something back soon.
 
"Rise-up" against Wyndham? How? Make a suggestion.
Grab your torch and pitchfork? Armed guerilla warfare? Maybe an Occupy Wall Street type of protest... So many ways you could rise up!
 
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If you know anything about Airbnb or VRBO you’ll know they approve all listings. What they are really approving is the ad you created. This has nothing to do with Wyndham approving anything. Years ago both companies started letting timeshare owners rent on those sites. Wyndham has no partnership to my knowledge. If someone has proof of something otherwise please PM me. On Airbnb until a reservation is rented it stays in the owners name so if Wyndham was cancelling something it wouldn’t be till after a guest name was added. FYI from my personal experience Wyndham can cancel Airbnb rentals just as quick and easy as what is described as owners personal commercial rentals. Once again not a damn thing owners can do about it. Emails go out to the guest email on the confirmation not the owner. Wyndham doesn’t know or care that the rental was done through Airbnb.
 
If you know anything about Airbnb or VRBO you’ll know they approve all listings. What they are really approving is the ad you created. This has nothing to do with Wyndham approving anything. Years ago both companies started letting timeshare owners rent on those sites. Wyndham has no partnership to my knowledge. If someone has proof of something otherwise please PM me. On Airbnb until a reservation is rented it stays in the owners name so if Wyndham was cancelling something it wouldn’t be till after a guest name was added. FYI from my personal experience Wyndham can cancel Airbnb rentals just as quick and easy as what is described as owners personal commercial rentals. Once again not a damn thing owners can do about it. Emails go out to the guest email on the confirmation not the owner. Wyndham doesn’t know or care that the rental was done through Airbnb.
Tell me how to share pictures and I will gladly post them. I have tried and it keeps telling me the file is to big to post. Off course I will be accused of faking the photos. The only thing I am faking is where I am so I cannot be tracked, and my identity revealed. I assumed someone would be tracking my IP address and if it was Wyndham, they could connect the dots and figure out who I am. If they do, then it would be not hard to connect the other owners I am working with. I did offer to send the photos with my FLIP PHONE, but I was not thinking. Because then you would have had my phone number. So that offer is no longer on the table.
 
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