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Units that trade both RCI and II question?

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Ducky84

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Been searching for a good red week resale at a unit that trades with both companies...Am I right to assume once we buy and pay our dues..we can pick which exchange company to deposit in if we want to trade? Just want to make sure a resale unit is not ASSIGNED to rci or II before we make an offer. We like the flexability of having both of them to choose from.....Only asking this here because of some confusion posting to the exchange board...Thanks in advance
 
Yes, but

In order to do that you will need to join and pay for both memberships, II and RCI.
That is $167 a year just to be able to choose which of these companies you wish to give your week and exchange fee( $135-$164 or more).

Depending upon where and when you wish to vacation, there are several independent companies, SFX, TPI, HTSE, DAE, Redweeks, etc that will allow you to trade for less. Some have no annual fee for their basic service. others have a annual fee, but much lower trade fees.

I would suggest that you plan out how and where, then look at either of the big 2, or some of the independent companies.

jmho,

Greg

Ducky84 said:
Been searching for a good red week resale at a unit that trades with both companies...Am I right to assume once we buy and pay our dues..we can pick which exchange company to deposit in if we want to trade? Just want to make sure a resale unit is not ASSIGNED to rci or II before we make an offer. We like the flexability of having both of them to choose from.....Only asking this here because of some confusion posting to the exchange board...Thanks in advance
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Worldmark trades in both RCI and Interval. It also allows you to search online for trades before depositing your credits into Interval. I think you can do that with RCI too but only by phone.
 
Although some resorts and resort chains have affiliations with both RCI or II, most affiliate with only one of the two. If you buy at a resort that has only one of the two affiliations, you won't be able to exchange with the other exchange company. The smaller exchange companies that Greg mentioned would still be available to you.
 
Most of the resorts I own trade with both II and RCI. I pay annual fees to both companies because they have resorts in different areas. I deposit my weeks to the company where I am most likely to use them that year.

You can certainly choose one or the other as long as your resort is dual-affiliated. You can also change your mind over time. You could be an RCI member for three years, for example, then drop your membership and try II.

Sheila
 
Just because the week is designated red, doesn't mean it trades well and you caneverything you want. That goes for II and RCI.
It is best you buy a fixed week or highly contrrained float week at a resort where you would like to go often. If you do trade II lets you look first to see whst you can get for your week. RCI you must deposit first and take pot luck.
Also, remember any week you get thru exchange must be deposited first by someone who doesn't want to use or rent their unit. Prime red weeks tend to be used or rented, not exchanged.
just MHO.
 
I own a couple of weeks at resorts managed by VRI and they are dual affiliated. I know that VRI now manages over 100 resorts and I think that most of them are dual affiliated with RCI and II. Of course they seem to have a closer relationship with RCI since you can get an RCI membership for three years for the price of two and you also get a 30 day priority in RCI on other VRI managed resorts that get deposited.
 
Our deeded multi week CMV UDI'S exchange with both RCI and II.

We belong to both and also RCI Points using CMV UDI weeks for the RCI weeks for Points program in our non CMV UDI RCI Points resorts.

We also use several of the independant exchange companies.


Bruce :D
 
I too have a couple of weeks that are dual-affiliated, and so far trade well in both exchanges. My RCI account is "free" through my Wyn points account. I also keep an II account, for times when II has better inventory for what I want.
 
If you go this route, be careful. I was looking at buying at a resort that was listed with both RCI and II. Just before I committed to the purchase I found out that Phase I was with RCI and that Phase II was with II. So it really was not dual affilliated and I would not have had a choice of companies.
 
I own with Sheraton and get a free II membership and I own with Wyndam and get a free RCI membership...life is good.
 
Ducky84 said:
Been searching for a good red week resale at a unit that trades with both companies...Am I right to assume once we buy and pay our dues..we can pick which exchange company to deposit in if we want to trade? Just want to make sure a resale unit is not ASSIGNED to rci or II before we make an offer. We like the flexability of having both of them to choose from.....Only asking this here because of some confusion posting to the exchange board...Thanks in advance
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You can read all of the posts above... but you really need to do your homework. There are resorts that you would assume are dual affiliated that are not. Examples:

  • Jockey Club - depends on which unit you own!
  • Powhatan - appears in both RCI and II, but as a weeks owner you have access to RCI; but as a DRI points owner you have access to II. Very different, very separate.
 
lprstn said:
I own with Sheraton and get a free II membership and I own with Wyndam and get a free RCI membership...life is good.
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Well, you pay for those memberships in the fees, but they feel free.
 
Foxrun trades with both, but with II it trades very well; RCI, it is a so-so trader. The difference is that RCI has a large number of resorts in that region, so they don't even value summer weeks. II gives great value to North Carolina, in general.

Many resorts are moving toward dual-affiliation, including Twin Rivers, which has signed the contracts with RCI and II this year, although we have never been with RCI before, and we aren't yet on the website (it was supposed to happen on the 1st). I hope they add us today, during the big Saturday RCI computer update. Val Chatelle is considering a dual-affiliation, but our trading power is so good with RCI, I don't want to see it happen there for now.
 
Cindy makes a good point: just because a unit could be used in either exchange, that doesn't mean you want to---different exchanges have different areas of strength and weakness, and a unit with a favorable supply/demand curve in one may be unfavorable in another.
 
Thank-you for all the replies..been doing as much homework as we can for our 1st purchase...We want to buy at massanutten mountainside villas because of the ability to trade w/both companies..we called the resort directly to double check and verify..Our hope is buy a fixed summer week here and have the ability to trade into disney on occasion with II...We love the resort..so if nothing comes up we will just keep our week and enjoy our summer vacation..It's very hard for us to determine what week will trade well because the red time for here includes alot of summer and winter weeks. Been looking at a week 31 - 34 time frame...Anyone know if these weeks will pull any disney weeks?.....Any other suggestions ...someone suggested we try the sightings board..we are members..but not quite sure how to word that post over there....
 
Ducky84 said:
Thank-you for all the replies..been doing as much homework as we can for our 1st purchase...We want to buy at massanutten mountainside villas because of the ability to trade w/both companies..we called the resort directly to double check and verify..Our hope is buy a fixed summer week here and have the ability to trade into disney on occasion with II...We love the resort..so if nothing comes up we will just keep our week and enjoy our summer vacation..It's very hard for us to determine what week will trade well because the red time for here includes alot of summer and winter weeks. Been looking at a week 31 - 34 time frame...Anyone know if these weeks will pull any disney weeks?.....Any other suggestions ...someone suggested we try the sightings board..we are members..but not quite sure how to word that post over there....
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Maybe someone will chime in with more encouraging words but if you're looking for anything family size at DVC when kids are not in school you can just about bet on not getting it. I would not think that anything Massanutten would do well at anything, but I might be wrong. I would look for time in the heart of summer 26-32. If you're only owning one timeshare and you maintain both II and RCI memberships, your trades become expensive.
 
Others have posted that prime summer weeks at Massanutten (sp?), at least certain sections, will trade into DVC. Make sure that you are buying a prime summer week (26-31 is ideal with schools out, both north and south of there, a couple weeks on either side are good too) in one of the top sections.

Trading into 2BRs at DVC during the summer is difficult but not impossible if you're okay with OKW or SSR resorts. Place all the Orlando area Disneys (BCV, DAK, DBW, DSS, DVO, DWL) on your search request, at least 11 months ahead, up to 2 years out if you can, to get on the waitlist. Include as many check-in dates as possible. If you do all that, you'd likely match, IMO.

We have some NC and TX weeks that seem to trade extremely well in II but only decently well in RCI. Then we have a NC week that trades like a dog in II but acceptably in RCI. It's tough to know which will work best for a dual-affiliated resort until you try it for yourself. The hard thing is that my desired destinations will differ from yours. So what pleases me as a trade week may not please you. It's not always easy to know if a particular resort will be the tiger trader you'd like unless you are able to play with it for a while and see what it gets. Another thing that helps is to watch the sightings forum. If you frequently open the specific destinations that interest you most, and note what people are using to "see" them at RCI/II, that's a starting point. If they are not specific, you can email them and ask - they may or may not want to share this info but it's worth a try.

For the OP, you're wise to try to get a primetime week that you'd be pleased to use yourselves if trading doesn't pan out. :) That's an excellent plan for a firsttime buyer. HTH!
 
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