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Westgate voluntary deed backs are not a sure thing

Do not ask at the resort, they will act as they dont know what you are talking about, they will only try to sell you something again. Voluntary Deed back are handle by a specific company dept. And they will take a LONG Time as in several months to complete the transfer and may ask for a fee. Not owner friendly. According to another post by Timeos when a resort accepts deeds back it must do it for every one who ask but WG will act as It only will take what they want if they want.
If someone can afford the fees the best its to use and in your case exchanging will reduce your transportation costs and make it work.
 
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...According to another post by Timeos when a resort accepts deeds back it must do it for every one who ask but WG will act as It only will take what they want if they want.

Timeos2's opinions are just that - I don't think he is a lawyer in your jurisdiction.

John - are you a lawyer in their jurisdiction?
 
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Timeos2's opinions are just that - I don't think he is a lawyer in your jurisdiction.

John - are you a lawyer in their jurisdiction?

Absolutely not. My statement about a benefit such as a deed back if offered to one owner must be offered to all comes from a nationally recognized law firm that specializes in condo/ timeshare law. They literally wrote the book on it.

See it here. All owners of timeshares and/or condos should read it cover to cover.

My other experience is 20 years of dealing with WG.
 
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Absolutely not. My statement about a benefit such as a deed back if offered to one owner must be offered to all comes from a nationally recognized law firm that specializes in condo/ timeshare law. They literally wrote the book on it.

See it here. All owners of timeshares and/or condos should read it cover to cover.

My other experience is 20 years of dealing with WG.

Timeos. Assuming that your opinion is correct. ( if this is really just your opinion like a poster opinion or just rather rules and regulations that seem not to be enforced ) Can you explain (in your opinion ) why WG acts like they take it if they want. Accepting some and rejecting others. And by yhe way, it may be his opinions but he knows about ts rules and regulations more than the average person since he has been in the board of various ts and know the industry from inside.
 

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Timeos. Assuming that your opinion is correct. ( if this is really just your opinion like a poster opinion or just rather rules and regulations that seem not to be enforced ) Can you explain (in your opinion ) why WG acts like they take it if they want. Accepting some and rejecting others. And by yhe way, it may be his opinions but he knows about ts rules and regulations more than the average person since he has been in the board of various ts and know the industry from inside.

WG tends to act as if rules, regulations, documents and laws simply don't apply to their operations. They openly flaunt rules and, although they have been caught & penalized at times, continue to do so usually with little or no repercussion as the Authorities are overwhelmed with even bigger problems. So they have at various times accepted deed backs for free, by demanding exorbitant payments and questionable closing/commission costs and evrything in between including refusing to even consider it. There is no set answer, no one that officially handles the process (you will be passed off to many employees each of which is nearly impossible to reach and of course never return a message left for them) and basically treat the owner in the typical WG fashion - ignore them unless it means big money in the sales coffers.

The whole operation is the worst in domestic timeshare and it cannot be said often enough or in enough places that you should avoid anything to do with WG whenever you can. Even a simple stay at one of the resorts is dangerous to your peace of mind and wallet. If you have been ensnared the best you can ever hope for is to get out with as little loss as possible. I would try to deed back for as little upfront cost as you can arrange but wouldn't plan on them being willing to do it at any price. There may be reasons they are sometimes willing to take ownerships back (great use times, big delinquent fees that would cost to foreclose, potential resale - who knows what they have cooked up) but overall it seems very hit & miss.
 

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Legal or not it has been my experience that selective deed backs are the norm. This is why persistance is the key. Don't take no for an answer, don't be a pest, just keep asking. This strategy helped me effectuate 4 deed backs. I now only have one Week left, a ski week in Colorado which my Son and his friends use as MF is way less than rent.

George
 

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Legal or not it has been my experience that selective deed backs are the norm.

From the sounds of it, that's what is occurring at The Manhattan Club. Maybe since TMC is buying weeks back for $100, it's not considered a deed back??
 
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