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Thinking about buying wyndham points

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How does that work though. It's a co tract at Panama city beach but since its through wyndam I can use points for anywhere in wyndam resorts?
Pts are pts 9 months in advance. Only advantage to having pts at a certain resort is booking 13 months out.
 

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How does that work though. It's a co tract at Panama city beach but since its through wyndam I can use points for anywhere in wyndam resorts?

It would give you priority at PCB 13 months out. Then at 10 months it’s good anywhere.

You’ll pay a little more up front for a place like PCB, Bali Hai, National Harbor and a few others. To me it’s better to pay up front than be stuck with MF that are $6-8 a thousand. Even at $6.50, if you pay $2k up front, you’ll make it back in 4 years if you’re at $5 per thousand.
 

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That's a decent deal. I'll look into it and see.

Also look here if you really want a timeshare.



Timeshares are free and transfer is free too. Take your time. New ones come up all the time. If you want Wyndham, wait for it and you will be rewarded with free everything.


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I teach in Tampa, FL and have been to the Panama City Beach location. It's a nice resort. I would buy that PCB contract if I needed more points. It's actually a perfect starter contract and a good summer/spring break location if you want the ARP. Myrtle beach is too cold during spring break. All the units are ocean front, which is why the point cost is high. Panama is rarely hit with hurricanes, which keeps the costs of insurance down. The annual maintenance fees are $4.87 per thousand including everything.

It's actually cheaper to own than rent if you have a Panama City contract. For reference, a week in a 1 bedroom unit would only be $750 in the summer at the Smoky lodge. If you book at exactly 10 months out, you can usually score a 2 bedroom presidential there for $1461 a week. Those rooms are so much nicer if you can afford the splurge.

Here is a video of the 2 bedroom presidential. They all have the same layout and view:

If you like to go to Myrtle Beach, Ocean Boulevard has the highest ratings of all the Wyndham resorts at that location. Here is a look at their 2 bedroom presidential:
 

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Here’s a Wyndham Star Island 3 bedroom for free with free transfer. There are currently 3 to choose from.




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This is another good contract to consider. I own at Towers on the Grove and get ARP at all the Myrtle Beach locations. I don't use it because it's only 96,000 points, but I've verified that I can book Ocean Boulevard at the 13 month mark. If you picked up this contract, your annual maintenance will be $1,712.48 for 308,000 points.

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Here’s a Wyndham Star Island 3 bedroom for free with free transfer. There are currently 3 to choose from.




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Star Island is a crappy deed to own and a crappy Wyndham to stay at. Plus the ones you linked aren't affiliated with Wyndham. Wyndham only owns a few buildings of that sad excuse for a "3" star resort. The spa water when I was there was brown and my bed smelled like old lady perfume. It's also backed onto a trailer park. Look for yourself on google maps.
 

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This is another good contract to consider. I own at Towers on the Grove and get ARP at all the Myrtle Beach locations. I don't use it because it's only 96,000 points, but I've verified that I can book Ocean Boulevard at the 13 month mark. If you picked up this contract, your annual maintenance will be $1,712.48 for 308,000 points.

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That might actually be worth looking into. Can you use Wyndham reward points to book along with your timeshare points? We have some reward points from staying at Wyndham locations.
 

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I have been looking into buying Wyndham points as we like to stay at the wilderness at the smokies a few times each year.
You do not say when (High season, Value season) and what size unit you are interested in. Without this basic information, it is impossible to offer an opinion.

Then in later posts, you want a beach resort with an option at Wyndham Great Smokies.

You would do best with a Club Wyndham Access ownership for the points that fit your needs to give you Advance Reservation Priority at a number of resorts, including Wyndham Great Smokies. Unless you can arrange your dates within the VIP 60-day window. A VIP landlord Might (maybe) give you a better rental price than owning (within 60 days of arrival, but the dates would not be guaranteed until less than 60-days in advance.
 
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You do not say when (High season, Value season) and what size unit you are interested in. Without this basic information, it is impossible to offer an opinion.

Then in later posts, you want a beach resort with an option at Wyndham Great Smokies.

You would do best with a Club Wyndham Access ownership for the points that fit your needs to give you Advance Reservation Priority at a number of resorts, including Wyndham Great Smokies. Unless you can arrange your dates within the VIP 60-day window. A VIP landlord Might (maybe) give you a better rental price than owning (within 60 days of arrival, but the dates would not be guaranteed until less than 60-days in advance.
My wife and I are both teachers so we are locked into the school schedule. We like to take weekend trips to the wilderness at the smokies during the year and during our breaks but not necessarily a week the same week every year. We would be interested in a beach week every year during summer prime season though. The more I research and look on here it seems the best route for us may be to look for a timeshare week at a beach that we prefer and rent points for the smokies when we want to go. I just wasn't sure if there is a secret to the madness with wyndham when you book or if it would be beneficial to have points through them for a beach trip that we could also use at the wilderness.
It looks like they have a pretty good idea of what will work for them.
 

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I dont understand all the hate for CWA. Yes its higher on the maintenance fees but it gets me what I want. I got 2 3brs pool view for Memorial day weekend at the Wilderness location, weekend for mardi gras, weekend for daytona 500, and a week in a 1br St Thomas location all this past year with my CWA contract. It does have its benefits too.
 

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I dont understand all the hate for CWA. Yes its higher on the maintenance fees but it gets me what I want. I got 2 3brs pool view for Memorial day weekend at the Wilderness location, weekend for mardi gras, weekend for daytona 500, and a week in a 1br St Thomas location all this past year with my CWA contract. It does have its benefits too.

So what is the difference between CWA and just regular points from a wyndham location or trust?
 

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Its Club Wynhdam Access and basically it is where Wyndham places a lot of contracts that they have taken back. Yes they have added a lot of high mf contracts that they probably couldn't sell kn their own which has driven up the mf cost of CWA. But it gives you access to most resorts at 13 months rather then 10. If I want Wilderness or Myrtle Beach for 4th of July I can get it and not just a 1br. I can look to see exactly what I could get in about 5 weeks from now to show you.

Having said that if your not going to book high demand places over 10 months out I would stay away from CWA
 

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This is another good contract to consider. I own at Towers on the Grove and get ARP at all the Myrtle Beach locations. I don't use it because it's only 96,000 points, but I've verified that I can book Ocean Boulevard at the 13 month mark. If you picked up this contract, your annual maintenance will be $1,712.48 for 308,000 points.

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So if I bought this contract after the upfront cost of buying the points I would just have to pay the maintenance fees every year? Or are there other fees involed on top of that?
 

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Its Club Wynhdam Access and basically it is where Wyndham places a lot of contracts that they have taken back. Yes they have added a lot of high mf contracts that they probably couldn't sell kn their own which has driven up the mf cost of CWA. But it gives you access to most resorts at 13 months rather then 10. If I want Wilderness or Myrtle Beach for 4th of July I can get it and not just a 1br. I can look to see exactly what I could get in about 5 weeks from now to show you.

Having said that if your not going to book high demand places over 10 months out I would stay away from CWA

Gotcha. Booking 13 months out would be a plus but not a necessity. Can you book a room for just 2 nights or does it have to be 3 or more?
 

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Gotcha. Booking 13 months out would be a plus but not a necessity. Can you book a room for just 2 nights or does it have to be 3 or more?

You are allotted a certain amount of housekeeping credits. Towers on the Grove is the only Myrtle beach location with studios. A studio costs 28 housekeeping credits and a 1 bedroom costs 63 housekeeping credits. If you are going to only stay 2 nights, you would want to book a studio or you will run out of housekeeping credits. If you own 308,000 points, you will get 308 housekeeping credits a year. I book a lot of last minute trips to Bonnet Creek and Ocean Walk when they are discounted 35% off, so if you look at my account below, I'm going to run out of housekeeping credits if I'm not careful next year. You are also allotted 1 free reservation transaction per 77,000 points you own. The Towers on the Grove contract will give you 4 free bookings a year and after that it will cost you $19 per booking.

The reason I am showing you my account for next year is because I used all my points for this year in 2019. I had made almost all of my bookings less than 90 days out, so I was able to use my 2020 points in 2019. I always do that just to be safe in case I can't go anywhere for a year, so my points won't expire. I only had 122,000/600,000 of my 2020 points left when Covid hit, so I carried them over to 2021. You also get 2 free guest confirmations. That allows someone else not on the ownership to use the ownership.

If you pick up a resale contract, my advice to you would be to only put 1 person on the contract. It isn't an asset, it's a liability. You get 2 free guest certificates anyways, so unless you are going to travel separately more than twice a year, there is NO BENEFIT to have both parties on the deed.

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Here’s a Wyndham Star Island 3 bedroom for free with free transfer. There are currently 3 to choose from.




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As @cbyrne1174 pointed out, those contracts are not in Wyndham points, they are listed on the web site as being fixed weeks. You might be able to convert them to points, but there's no guarantee and that would be an additional cost. A better URL to use in order to see what TSN currently has as inventory is below; the actual site is not updated as frequently and typically doesn't reflect additions and subtractions of decent TS. (The Star Island ones aren't there under Wyndham, but instead listed as Star Island Resort and Star Island Resort and Country Club Phase IV.)


If you want Wyndham points, check the bulk inventory daily and some show up about every 1-3 weeks. The fellow that runs the TSN site is Jared Farver <jared@timesharenation.com>; email him directly if you see something you're interested in. He's fairly responsive and you can skip the messing around with filling in web forms to express interest.
 

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As @cbyrne1174 pointed out, those contracts are not in Wyndham points, they are listed on the web site as being fixed weeks. You might be able to convert them to points, but there's no guarantee and that would be an additional cost. A better URL to use in order to see what TSN currently has as inventory is below; the actual site is not updated as frequently and typically doesn't reflect additions and subtractions of decent TS. (The Star Island ones aren't there under Wyndham, but instead listed as Star Island Resort and Star Island Resort and Country Club Phase IV.)


If you want Wyndham points, check the bulk inventory daily and some show up about every 1-3 weeks. The fellow that runs the TSN site is Jared Farver <jared@timesharenation.com>; email him directly if you see something you're interested in. He's fairly responsive and you can skip the messing around with filling in web forms to express interest.
Jared is very responsive and has been great to deal with.
 

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You are allotted a certain amount of housekeeping credits. Towers on the Grove is the only Myrtle beach location with studios. A studio costs 28 housekeeping credits and a 1 bedroom costs 63 housekeeping credits. If you are going to only stay 2 nights, you would want to book a studio or you will run out of housekeeping credits. If you own 308 points, you will get 308 housekeeping credits a year. I book a lot of last minute trips to Bonnet Creek and Ocean Walk when they are discounted 35% off, so if you look at my account below, I'm going to run out of housekeeping credits if I'm not careful next year. You are also allotted 1 free reservation transaction per 77,000 points you own. The Towers on the Grove contract will give you 4 free bookings a year and after that it will cost you $19 per booking.

The reason I am showing you my account for next year is because I used all my points for this year in 2019. I had made almost all of my bookings less than 90 days out, so I was able to use my 2020 points in 2019. I always do that just to be safe in case I can't go anywhere for a year, so my points won't expire. I only had 122,000/600,000 of my 2020 points left when Covid hit, so I carried them over to 2021. You also get 2 free guest confirmations. That allows someone else not on the ownership to use the ownership.

If you pick up a resale contract, my advice to you would be to only put 1 person on the contract. It isn't an asset, it's a liability. You get 2 free guest certificates anyways, so unless you are going to travel separately more than twice a year, there is NO BENEFIT to have both parties on the deed.

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Wow I did not know about housekeeping credits. Thanks for pointing that out. The way our schedule is for school every year we would probably look at booking 3 to 4 times a year. Once in November (fall break) once in the spring (spring/easter break) and once or twice in the summer. So we would not have to worry about the booking fee but not sure about house keeping credits. How many housekeeping credits is a 2br at the Great Smokies lodge? Thats where we would probably go during our breaks. Summertime probably somewhere at myrtle beach.
 

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As @cbyrne1174 pointed out, those contracts are not in Wyndham points, they are listed on the web site as being fixed weeks. You might be able to convert them to points, but there's no guarantee and that would be an additional cost. A better URL to use in order to see what TSN currently has as inventory is below; the actual site is not updated as frequently and typically doesn't reflect additions and subtractions of decent TS. (The Star Island ones aren't there under Wyndham, but instead listed as Star Island Resort and Star Island Resort and Country Club Phase IV.)


If you want Wyndham points, check the bulk inventory daily and some show up about every 1-3 weeks. The fellow that runs the TSN site is Jared Farver <jared@timesharenation.com>; email him directly if you see something you're interested in. He's fairly responsive and you can skip the messing around with filling in web forms to express interest.

Gotcha
 
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So is that contract on ebay for 308K that I was looking at points just for that property or can they be used for any wyndham property? Im getting confused now lol.

They would be Wyndham points that you can use for any Wyndham property in the Club Wyndham system. Wyndham has several different systems, which can make it confusing, but if you're looking on the East Coast typically the Wyndham that you're looking at has a better selection of resorts.

You might also check the TUG marketplace for points listings at:


You can limit it to Wyndham ones and go through to see if any would work for you. There's one Bali Hai EOY contract on there, for example; it looks like it was a converted week rather than an original Wyndham points contract, so the MF are a bit higher than others, but still on the low end. The one at Zephyr Cove is another one with low MFs; also an EOY. Those cost more than the higher MF ones initially, but if you'll be using it for a while might make more sense and will be easier to dispose of later.
 

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They would be Wyndham points that you can use for any Wyndham property in the Club Wyndham system. Wyndham has several different systems, which can make it confusing, but if you're looking on the East Coast typically the Wyndham that you're looking at has a better selection of resorts.

You might also check the TUG marketplace for points listings at:


You can limit it to Wyndham ones and go through to see if any would work for you. There's one Bali Hai EOY contract on there, for example; it looks like it was a converted week rather than an original Wyndham points contract, so the MF are a bit higher than others, but still on the low end. The one at Zephyr Cove is another one with low MFs; also an EOY. Those cost more than the higher MF ones initially, but if you'll be using it for a while might make more sense and will be easier to dispose of later.

Ok I understand now. I have been looking at some on there. For our purposes we will probably need around 300 points to book what we would want every year. Few weekends at the Great Smokies lodge, and a beach trip. Dont want to pay too much upfront costs but I would rather pay the upfront and have lower MF since we will be using this for the next 20+ years probably.
 
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