Target and Walmart to close on Thanksgiving

[linsj]

Target joins Walmart in ending Thanksgiving store shopping

Target is joining Walmart in closing its stores on Thanksgiving Day, ending a decadelong tradition of jump-starting Black Friday sales

abcnews.go.com

I don't shop on Thanksgiving anyway, but this is a smart move.

 

[Talent312]

This recognizes that people would rather use Thanksgiving to shop online
... between courses of turkey, pumpkin pie and and football.
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[TheTimeTraveler]

Target joins Walmart in ending Thanksgiving store shopping

Target is joining Walmart in closing its stores on Thanksgiving Day, ending a decadelong tradition of jump-starting Black Friday sales

abcnews.go.com

I don't shop on Thanksgiving anyway, but this is a smart move.

With the advanced advent of the internet then who really needs to go out to shop on Thanksgiving when they can stay at home and do it there instead?

If you want to really take it a step further then why not close retail establishments every Sunday as well!




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[Luanne]

With the advanced advent of the internet then who really needs to go out to shop on Thanksgiving when they can stay at home and do it there instead?

If you want to really take it a step further then why not close retail establishments every Sunday as well!




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I remember back in the day, when I first started working in retail, we weren't open on Sundays, or at night.

 

[geekette]

Good. Let retail employees enjoy the federal holiday like most other occupations get to. Especially this year. I hope the day is paid for all of their employees without having to burn vacation or sick time.

 

[bbodb1]

Good. Let retail employees enjoy the federal holiday like most other occupations get to. Especially this year. I hope the day is paid for all of their employees without having to burn vacation or sick time.

There is a part of me that suspects some bean counter actually made this decision when looking at the higher wages paid for Thanksgiving Day combined with the growing move toward online shopping already in progress.

What will be interesting is if grocers (like Kroger, et. al.) follow suit.

 

[geekette]

There is a part of me that suspects some bean counter actually made this decision when looking at the higher wages paid for Thanksgiving Day combined with the growing move toward online shopping already in progress.

What will be interesting is if grocers (like Kroger, et. al.) follow suit.

I don't have a grocery store open on Christmas. On Thanksgiving, shortened hours. Maybe these are not chain-wide decisions?

 

[AnnaS]

I am glad. Let the employees enjoy their holiday at home with family/friends. I worked retail for years. Everyone can shop another day........do we need to shop 365 days a year? Yes, on-line of course

 

[missyrcrews]

Oh...we won't be home with our family, folks. We'll be picking all your online orders. I always work the Wed night before Thanksgiving for ad set...stay until 2 or 3am Thanksgiving morning. Maine doesn't allow them to be open for regular retail shopping. But most of us go home, grab a couple hours sleep, and then come in to pick orders. And then I usually go home, sleep a couple hours, and come back to close the store on Black Friday. It's a crazy time, but I've worked retail for most of my life, and I love it!

 

[mrsstats]

Good - should stay that way.

 

[CPNY]

This recognizes that people would rather use Thanksgiving to shop online
... between courses of turkey, pumpkin pie and and football.
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If football makes it that far

 

[jeffox]

I don't have a problem with some stores open Thanksgiving day, like grocery stores with reduced hours, because you always find out you need something while getting the turkey ready. But after about noon, everything is going and nobody is going anywhere.

 

[dayooper]

I don't have a problem with some stores open Thanksgiving day, like grocery stores with reduced hours, because you always find out you need something while getting the turkey ready. But after about noon, everything is going and nobody is going anywhere.

When I worked for Whole Foods 20 some years ago, each store had 2 days closed and 2 days partially open they could use. My store manager chose Christmas/Thanksgiving as the closed days and New Years Eve/New Years Day as the partially open days. It was much appreciated. We closed early News Years Eve and opened late on New Years Day.

 

[dioxide45]

Good. Let retail employees enjoy the federal holiday like most other occupations get to. Especially this year. I hope the day is paid for all of their employees without having to burn vacation or sick time.

I am glad. Let the employees enjoy their holiday at home with family/friends. I worked retail for years. Everyone can shop another day........do we need to shop 365 days a year? Yes, on-line of course

Often, it wasn't mandated that employees worked that day. They would ask for people to volunteer to work those days instead of mandating. I am sure some were happy for the extra hours. Perhaps they don't celebrate the holiday. Who are we to say they should or shouldn't? If they voluntarily chose to work that day and get paid for it, what is wrong with that? I am sure it won't be a paid holiday for many of those retail employees this year.

 

[controller1]

Often, it wasn't mandated that employees worked that day. They would ask for people to volunteer to work those days instead of mandating. I am sure some were happy for the extra hours. Perhaps they don't celebrate the holiday. Who are we to say they should or shouldn't? If they voluntarily chose to work that day and get paid for it, what is wrong with that? I am sure it won't be a paid holiday for many of those retail employees this year.

I believe Walmart and Target started that way when they started opening on Thanksgiving. It's my understanding that the past few years there were not enough volunteers and working became mandatory.

 

[AnnaS]

Often, it wasn't mandated that employees worked that day. They would ask for people to volunteer to work those days instead of mandating. I am sure some were happy for the extra hours. Perhaps they don't celebrate the holiday. Who are we to say they should or shouldn't? If they voluntarily chose to work that day and get paid for it, what is wrong with that? I am sure it won't be a paid holiday for many of those retail employees this year.

Yes, many people volunteer to make the time and half or double time. But there are also many, especially in the small departments, where someone has to work, sometimes they can't get anyone in the department to work. There were many times many kids who ended up working would complain because the parents had to wait for them for the long drive to visit families.

I don't care one way or the other. I worked one here and there but I worked 4 am to 10 am. If I was not cooking, it was not an issue. I also hated working weekends - but many retail stores require you to work weekends. I finally stopped and said I would leave. They actually worked with me because they knew I was dependable, reliable and a hard worker.

I think we will all survive if a store closes or two days out of the year. There is a part of NJ - (need to ask hubby) where they are not open on Sundays. It's been that way for years. One gets used to what is at hand - I think

 

[pedro47]

I can remember when are retail stores were closed New Years Day, Thanksgiving Day. a 1/2 Day Christmas Eve and all day on Christmas Day.

Plus all stores were closed on Sunday because of The Blue Laws.

 

[AnnaS]

Someone made a good point and has me thinking now, they might be closing due to COVID/crowds and not "thinking about their employees" as I would have liked to think the reasoning was for. - Just a thought - could be both/or the other.

Again - they can and will do whatever they want - as long as they have a choice - the store/company and the employee have a choice. Their decision.

 

[SmithOp]

The online Black Friday sales will set a new record this year.


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[geekette]

The online Black Friday sales will set a new record this year.


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Which direction? Lots of unemployment, some jobs are not coming back. Lots of family members gone, so not only less people to buy for, but possible loss of their income also.

I don't think the average person has income to throw at gifts, and I don't think that will change by late November, as more people will incur serious medical debt, and more will be dead.

obviously, we'll see how it comes out. I hope those that do have spare dough spend it. But my gut is we will see most spending on housing, food, and medical services.

 

[PigsDad]

Which direction? Lots of unemployment, some jobs are not coming back. Lots of family members gone, so not only less people to buy for, but possible loss of their income also.

Just curious, do you consider less than 0.05% "lots"? Do you honestly think that would have any significant impact to Black Friday sales figures?

Kurt

 

[geist1223]

So why do some people feel it is necessary to bring Covid arguments into every thread?

 

[Luanne]

So why do some people feel it is necessary to bring Covid arguments into every thread?

From the article in the very first post:

"The move, announced Monday, comes as stores are rethinking this year's Black Friday shopping bonanza weekend — along with other key retail days during the holiday season — as the country battles the coronavirus pandemic. "

 

[geekette]

Just curious, do you consider less than 0.05% "lots"? Do you honestly think that would have any significant impact to Black Friday sales figures?

Kurt

Yes.

If 5 members of my family were gone, what am I shopping for?? flowers for their graves?

There are percentages that don't adequately portray the reality for some families.

My family hasn't lost .05 yet, but we still could, and it would hurt. I am more likely to wrap up cans of food for my mother for Christmas than get her more junk she doesn't need.

If people wanna shop, go for it, but well more than .05 of our population lost jobs. Maybe that's not a problem for retirees, but they are the ones most unlikely to make it to Christmas.

for some people, release from hospital of a loved one will be what they really want for Christmas and no pricey electronics will change that.

 

[controller1]

The online Black Friday sales will set a new record this year.


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Just curious, do you consider less than 0.05% "lots"? Do you honestly think that would have any significant impact to Black Friday sales figures?

Kurt

Yes.

If 5 members of my family were gone, what am I shopping for?? flowers for their graves?

There are percentages that don't adequately portray the reality for some families.

My family hasn't lost .05 yet, but we still could, and it would hurt. I am more likely to wrap up cans of food for my mother for Christmas than get her more junk she doesn't need.

If people wanna shop, go for it, but well more than .05 of our population lost jobs. Maybe that's not a problem for retirees, but they are the ones most unlikely to make it to Christmas.

for some people, release from hospital of a loved one will be what they really want for Christmas and no pricey electronics will change that.

@geekette you were initially responding to @SmithOp who did not post "The online Black Friday sales will set a new record this year for each family". I must agree with @PigsDad on this one. The loss of 150,000-200,000 lives will not even be a blip on the Black Friday sales radar this year.