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SVN MF Historical Database is now LIVE!
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2008 Data from this thread is now in the database. This also added some datapoints further back as some provided 2007 comps and some analysis back to 2005!
http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60283&highlight=maintenance+fees
I put the names of who provided the data and SMH in the contributor field.
Where there was insufficient data (no phase or specific size) I skipped the data.
I'll work through the other years in due course.
Nico, I hope you are backing up this database!
http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60283&highlight=maintenance+fees
I put the names of who provided the data and SMH in the contributor field.
Where there was insufficient data (no phase or specific size) I skipped the data.
I'll work through the other years in due course.
Nico, I hope you are backing up this database!
hypnotiq
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Hi hypnotiq
Excellent work here mate. Just started to add my entries for St Augustine at SVV but the details on MSC are not clear and having checked my 2012/13 e-Statement it suggests that I've added my Real Estate Tax into the Tax column by mistake (it simply says Tax on the MSC site but the e-Statement breaks this down more accurately).
I'm assuming there's no edit button for these entries so can you update this please to reflect the tax situation correctly?
As this moves on and the data expands, what do you propose by way of admin? Hopefully it won't need much (so long as dimwits like me don't put data in the wrong fields) but the data may get a little unwieldy for one.
Thanx again for the hard work here.
Excellent work here mate. Just started to add my entries for St Augustine at SVV but the details on MSC are not clear and having checked my 2012/13 e-Statement it suggests that I've added my Real Estate Tax into the Tax column by mistake (it simply says Tax on the MSC site but the e-Statement breaks this down more accurately).
I'm assuming there's no edit button for these entries so can you update this please to reflect the tax situation correctly?
As this moves on and the data expands, what do you propose by way of admin? Hopefully it won't need much (so long as dimwits like me don't put data in the wrong fields) but the data may get a little unwieldy for one.
Thanx again for the hard work here.
hypnotiq
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Ill fix the entries for you. I'm removing the not RE tax column this week (been busy with work) so that this doesn't happen going forward.
I plan to continually maintain the DB. if for whatever reason, I leave the community, I'll find someone with the technical capability on TUG willing to take it over.
-Nico
I plan to continually maintain the DB. if for whatever reason, I leave the community, I'll find someone with the technical capability on TUG willing to take it over.
-Nico
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Nico,
This is a great resource -- thank you for starting it and making these adjustments, it is very interesting to see.
Best,
Greg
This is a great resource -- thank you for starting it and making these adjustments, it is very interesting to see.
Best,
Greg
WPORV has data for 2009 and 2010. Those need to back up a year, 2009 is actually 2008s and 2010 is 2009s
Beyond that, the data with enough clarity from the 2009 thread
http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86264
is in the DB
Beyond that, the data with enough clarity from the 2009 thread
http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86264
is in the DB
The 2010 Thread
http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=109981
Has now been populated into the database.
http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=109981
Has now been populated into the database.
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Taking out prior-year surplus/deficit reduction?
Just noticed something when I paid a bit more attention to the proposed budgets that are starting to arrive in the mail.
What started to look like a 7.4% increase in MFs is really a 1% increase in MFs at one property, and what started to look like a 2.2% increase in MFs is really a 2.5% decrease in MFs at another property.
The MF numbers we're comparing (i.e. "how much is the total bill to be paid") often include a line item for prior-year surplus carried forward, which is making the MFs paid actually less than they would really be for the year (since there is money left over from the previous year).
It would be more accurate to compare how is the total bill for just this year, not including any carry-forward from the previous year where they had extra (which makes this year's MFs look lower than they really are), or carry-back to the previous year where they ran short (which make this year's MFs look higher than they really are).
Is this something we should account for when we're recording all of this historical information? Or do we just assume that this is a wash over a longer period of time?
Just noticed something when I paid a bit more attention to the proposed budgets that are starting to arrive in the mail.
What started to look like a 7.4% increase in MFs is really a 1% increase in MFs at one property, and what started to look like a 2.2% increase in MFs is really a 2.5% decrease in MFs at another property.
The MF numbers we're comparing (i.e. "how much is the total bill to be paid") often include a line item for prior-year surplus carried forward, which is making the MFs paid actually less than they would really be for the year (since there is money left over from the previous year).
It would be more accurate to compare how is the total bill for just this year, not including any carry-forward from the previous year where they had extra (which makes this year's MFs look lower than they really are), or carry-back to the previous year where they ran short (which make this year's MFs look higher than they really are).
Is this something we should account for when we're recording all of this historical information? Or do we just assume that this is a wash over a longer period of time?
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Nico - you got hit by a bus!!??
I finally got around to updating a few fields.
There are some minor errors for certain years (2005 WKV 1Bd Dlx - and property taxes vs 'taxes' for some years, and 2009 WSJ 2Bd TH - not really a special assessment) - are you interested in correcting them? I can send you the corrections.
I finally got around to updating a few fields.
There are some minor errors for certain years (2005 WKV 1Bd Dlx - and property taxes vs 'taxes' for some years, and 2009 WSJ 2Bd TH - not really a special assessment) - are you interested in correcting them? I can send you the corrections.
It looks like someone forgot to pay the bill. Nico is probably on vacation.
I just clicked on the maintenance fee URL and got the following message:
NOTICE: This domain name expired on 11/06/2013 and is pending renewal or deletion.
I just clicked on the maintenance fee URL and got the following message:
NOTICE: This domain name expired on 11/06/2013 and is pending renewal or deletion.
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Nico hasn't visited TUG since Oct. 25: I'm afraid the bus got him!
BUT - his website is working now.
BUT - his website is working now.
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hypnotiq
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Sorry guys, I'm still alive. Super busy at work with updates for the holiday season and I was busy being a big kid this weekend flying back and forth across the country for the Seahawks game.
GoDaddy used the wrong CC on file (expired) and the failed to process notification went to spam folder.
Domain and website hosting is now paid through 11/11/2018.
I'll be making updates/corrections to the DB from the various emails/pms I've gotten over the last week.
I should be around more starting towards the end of the week...I hope.
GoDaddy used the wrong CC on file (expired) and the failed to process notification went to spam folder.
Domain and website hosting is now paid through 11/11/2018.
I'll be making updates/corrections to the DB from the various emails/pms I've gotten over the last week.
I should be around more starting towards the end of the week...I hope.
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great tool! Thanks for the effort!
hypnotiq
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Ok, so I'm a big fat liar and work did not get slower...until this week.
So, I've gone through the back log of PM's and emails I've received since the last week of October and everything I've been emailed or pm'd about has been corrected.
If you see anything else that needs fixin' let me know.
Now to go try and catch up on a months worth of TUG. :whoopie:
-Nico
So, I've gone through the back log of PM's and emails I've received since the last week of October and everything I've been emailed or pm'd about has been corrected.
If you see anything else that needs fixin' let me know.
Now to go try and catch up on a months worth of TUG.
:whoopie:-Nico
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Can you set it up so a query could be done on a particular size regardless of the special configuration (deluxe, premium. etc)? I just want to look at the least expensive MF's for a Starwood annual 1 br without having to check all 13 possible configurations.
Thanks.
Tracey
Thanks.
Tracey
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You can - get it down to 3 types of 1Bd - (1Bd, 1Bd Prem, 1 Bd Dlx)
E.g. Click on 2014, click on annual, then choose one of the 1Bd types - there are only 8 listed in total - not very hard - takes less than 30 seconds.
E.g. Click on 2014, click on annual, then choose one of the 1Bd types - there are only 8 listed in total - not very hard - takes less than 30 seconds.
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Except your way would miss the five 1 bd units listed in the other 1 bd categories in the database.
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Mess around with search fields.
I only see 3 1Bd types (1Bd, 1Bd Prem, and 1Bd Dlx) - if there are more, please explain (is there more than these?) - besides ain't hard to search no matter what. What is missing are the MFs for many resorts and years??? that would make your 1Bd search less accurate regardless.
I only see 3 1Bd types (1Bd, 1Bd Prem, and 1Bd Dlx) - if there are more, please explain (is there more than these?) - besides ain't hard to search no matter what. What is missing are the MFs for many resorts and years??? that would make your 1Bd search less accurate regardless.
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I also see listed:
1 Bedroom (3 BR lockoff)
1 Bedroom (Exterior)
1 Bedroom (Interior)
1 Bedroom (Not part of a lockoff)
1 Bedroom (of 2 BR lockoff)
1 Bedroom (of 3 BR lockoff)
1 Bedroom Corner (of 2 BR lockoff)
1 Bedroom Corner (of 3 BR lockoff)
1 Bedroom Premium (Deluxe Lockoff Villa)
1 Bedroom Premium (Exterior)
1 Bedroom Premium (Interior)
1 Bedroom Premium (of 2 BR Lockoff)
1 Bedroom Premium (of 3 BR Lockoff)
1 Bedroom Premium Corner (of 2 BR Lockoff)
1 Bedroom Townhouse
1 Bedroom Villa A (of 3 BR Lockoff)
1 Bedroom Villa B (of 3 BR Lockoff)
most are empty at this time but may not stay that way in the future. While it is nice to know all the configurations at each resort if it doesn't affect MF's not sure if it needs to be listed in this DB.
There are similar additional fields for the 2 and 3 BR's as well.
Since suggestions were solicited I gave mine. Yes, I can look at entire year but may also want to look at a particular size unit and include all the possible configurations listed in the DB but not other sizes.
I was looking at the one linked to the first post. Is that the correct final link?
1 Bedroom (3 BR lockoff)
1 Bedroom (Exterior)
1 Bedroom (Interior)
1 Bedroom (Not part of a lockoff)
1 Bedroom (of 2 BR lockoff)
1 Bedroom (of 3 BR lockoff)
1 Bedroom Corner (of 2 BR lockoff)
1 Bedroom Corner (of 3 BR lockoff)
1 Bedroom Premium (Deluxe Lockoff Villa)
1 Bedroom Premium (Exterior)
1 Bedroom Premium (Interior)
1 Bedroom Premium (of 2 BR Lockoff)
1 Bedroom Premium (of 3 BR Lockoff)
1 Bedroom Premium Corner (of 2 BR Lockoff)
1 Bedroom Townhouse
1 Bedroom Villa A (of 3 BR Lockoff)
1 Bedroom Villa B (of 3 BR Lockoff)
most are empty at this time but may not stay that way in the future. While it is nice to know all the configurations at each resort if it doesn't affect MF's not sure if it needs to be listed in this DB.
There are similar additional fields for the 2 and 3 BR's as well.
Since suggestions were solicited I gave mine. Yes, I can look at entire year but may also want to look at a particular size unit and include all the possible configurations listed in the DB but not other sizes.
I was looking at the one linked to the first post. Is that the correct final link?
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Obviously - not all 1 Bds are alike.
The bigger issue are empty MFs.
The bigger issue are empty MFs.
This needs someone with detailed knowledge of the resort and what was sold to weigh in.
David did this for WKORV and highlighted that they only sold 2be VOI and 1br in the 1br only units. So the two sides of the 2br while available to rent are not relevant for MF.
I took the list of Unit types from the SVO website. But, for example, I now think they only sold a complete 3br at harborside so the parts of 3br would never have an MF entry correctly input in the db against them.
So any takers to get this info?
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hypnotiq
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Hey all,
Denise alerted me that the 2015 bills have started arriving so I've updated the site to account for the new calendar year.
Let me know if you have any issues.
Thanks,.
Nico
Denise alerted me that the 2015 bills have started arriving so I've updated the site to account for the new calendar year.
Let me know if you have any issues.
Thanks,.
Nico
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Hey all,
Denise alerted me that the 2015 bills have started arriving so I've updated the site to account for the new calendar year.
Let me know if you have any issues.
Thanks,.
Nico
Hey Nico - we just got back from WKORV... missed you there... working too much? (hope not)
There are a lot of resorts w/ no MF history - we need to get Tuggers owning these resorts to fill in the numbers.
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Did you see his other thread? He got "down sized."