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surviving a timeshare presentation [merged]

The first time I went on a timeshare tour (Las Vegas), I didn't have a clue what a timeshare was. We were told they would lavish us with lots of freebies for the big gaggle of teenagers we had with us - just to hear about a great opportunity to vacation in Las Vegas - and around the world! When we got into the presentation, I asked too many questions, and they told us it really wasn't for us :eek: :eek: :eek: , and quickly ushered us out of the room. I was a little hurt. I still had lots of questions, but never got the chance to ask them.

Lo and behold, fast forward several years. I found TUG and mined the creative, hardworking, and downright brilliant minds of other TUGgers for tips and strategies, and have had an incredible experience owning multiple timeshares. Many, many heartfelt thanks to all those TUGgers who help newbies (and some of us not so newbies) out there!:cheer: :clap: :cheer: :clap:
 
We survived our timeshare presentation!

A while back I posted a query for suggestions on surviving a timeshare presentation. The replies I received were informative and laugh out loud entertaining.

I am back to report that we did get through our timeshare persecution with a minimum of pain and suffering.

96 minutes.

Yes, indeedy…we managed to complete our timeshare presentation obligation in 96 minutes flat. Perhaps we lucked out. The salesman assigned to us was more than happy to dispense with the movie and facility tour and get right to the questionnaire designed to ferret out how much discretionary money we have.

With a little small talk, we find out that he is a former real estate agent. He does not explicitly say it but we get the idea that he is working as a timeshare sales rep because he needs the job.

He opens with the question, “How much do you know about timeshares?”

I (ever so sweetly) tell him that that right now a timeshare purchase does not fit in our financial picture and that if we were to buy one, it would be resale. We agreed to the invitation as a chance to experience the Hilton property and take advantage of a inexpensive trip to Las Vegas.

After that, we were polite and attentive. He presented the benefits of the Hilton system and then shocked us with the retail prices of the ‘popular packages’. I can only remember the details of the first package. It was $42,000 for 7000 platinum points.

We all are very aware that this is just the smoke and mirror part of the sales pitch because the next step is to get his boss to see if there are some deals that would fit our budget a little better. The second salesman has what he describes as a very basic package for $11,044. We did not ask to see the particulars, we just politely declined. They did not try to hard sell us and that was that. We were done.

As we thanked our first sales rep and said our goodbyes, he whispered to us, “If you do buy resale, use a reputable agent and make sure there are no liens and the maintenance fees are paid up. You don’t want any nasty surprises.”

Our stay at the Hilton was a positive one. The service was top notch. However, I think 90% of the guests are there for the timeshare sales experience. During our presentation, there must have been at least 60 other couples receiving the same sales pitch. (I wonder if the service at the Hiltons that are not primarily used for sales is as good?)

We had dinner at Benihana the next night and one of the couples seated with us also went through the Hilton timeshare pitch. They were not so lucky. Their appointment lasted longer than 2 hours and the sales people would not give up. They kept coming up with offer after offer. They did not buy either but would have liked to had the prices been better.

If we had the discretionary money I would certainly consider buying a Hilton timeshare. My only concern is that in the Hilton system the second bedroom has another full or queen bed. I would prefer the second bedroom to have 2 beds.

Anyway, I have determined that if/when we do purchase a timeshare it will be one that has a the flexibility of a point system. I just don't know what company it will be.

Thank you again for all the sage advice,
Karen
PS. my hubbie made me swear to never ever put him through one of those again!
 
Congratulations on a well thought out plan of attack. Sounds like you did a great job.

DH has said that he doesn't want to go to anymore presentations and then will often find a reason to go to one. We have been very lucky in that ours haven't gone over the agreed time limit. In fact, we've been able to get out pretty quickly in a couple of them.

Sue
 
As we thanked our first sales rep and said our goodbyes, he whispered to us, “If you do buy resale, use a reputable agent and make sure there are no liens and the maintenance fees are paid up. You don’t want any nasty surprises.”

I like that. He is one in a million.
 
Leave your wallet, checkbook, & credit cards at home

Don't even take them in there. Take very little cash. That way you can't use it.
 
Don't Leave Home Without It.

Leave your wallet, checkbook, & credit cards at home
Trouble is, the reception desk person at the sales center will need to see I.D. (driver's license, passport, etc.) + 1 credit card in order to let you in for your shot at the old hard-sell razzle-dazzle & ballyhoo.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​
 
I like these survival stories... its interesting to see how others get thru the harrowing experience.
To bad you can't leave behind a spouse who's easily impressed.
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For the young and immortal it may not matter, but free-time has become a rather valuable commodity to me, and I've concluded that the incentives are not worth more.
 
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I like these survival stories... its interesting to see how others get thru the harrowing experience.
To bad you can't leave a spouse who's easily impressed behind.
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For the young and immortal it may not matter, but free-time has become a rather valuable commodity to me, and I've concluded that the incentives are not worth more.

:hysterical: :hysterical:

My DH does get excited, but tries to hold back and to check with me (as the "expert":shrug:) as to the legitimacy of the salespeople's claims now.
What's funny is that the pushier salespeople seem a little leary of me (!), even after only 6 months of TUG education:whoopie:

I would love to be a fly on the wall of the meetings involving long-timers who really know their stuff!! ;) The entertainment value would be huge!!
 
after the presentation say no and thank them for their time, then before they can counter you with other offers tell them their performance encouraged you to sell timeshares instead of buying them, then ask them for a job application. The look of confusion should be more valuable then the freebie they give you.
 
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Daytona Beach TS presentation

I'm wondering if this has ever happened to any of you old-timers at TUG ?
True story. We got into the world of TS in 1996. bought at Morritt's. We've been to about 6 presentations since. Last one was Daytona 4 years ago. Went to the presentation on Friday morn. While waiting a man approached, ask our names, and then said something that was truly astounding. At least to me. He knew we owned 2 other TS's. He asked us if we really there to buy ? I said "not really". He took us into a room alone, we chit-chatted about 1/2 hour then he gave us our goodies and we left. Only time thats ever happened. Anyone else ?
 
after the presentation say no and thank them for their time, then before they can counter you with other offers tell them their performance encouraged you to sell timeshares instead of buying them, then ask them for a job application. The look of confusion should be more valuable then the freebie they give you.

I like this approach!!! :)
 
I'm wondering if this has ever happened to any of you old-timers at TUG ?
True story. We got into the world of TS in 1996. bought at Morritt's. We've been to about 6 presentations since. Last one was Daytona 4 years ago. Went to the presentation on Friday morn. While waiting a man approached, ask our names, and then said something that was truly astounding. At least to me. He knew we owned 2 other TS's. He asked us if we really there to buy? I said "not really." He took us into a room alone, we chit-chatted about 1/2 hour then he gave us our goodies and we left. Only time thats ever happened. Anyone else ?

Perhaps they thought you might use your knowledge of TS reality and the falsehoods they intended to present to drive away other marks, and isolating you gave them a freer hand.
 
Is there a version of "TS Salesman's TUG"

Just got back from our trip to Honolulu.

We're timeshare presentation junkies. This trip 5 presetations Hilton, Wyhdam, Shells, Marriot & Paradise-Blue equaled $600.00 in gifts. Cant really explain it and don't care to defend it we just do it. I guess we keep the street hawkers employeed.

My question concerns the fact that most of the presenters knew we had been to multiple presentations, almost as though they were communicating about their "marks" via some social networking.

Anybody ever experience or know of a Timeshare Salesman webpage?
 
This was a fun and interesting thread. Everyone had great ideas except for the Marriott Sales Rep who still insists that we should buy a week from the developer before going resale. No thanks.

Anyways, I have been to so many of these things. I don't go for the cheap deals ($50-$100 is not enough). I make them pull out all of the stops. In Hawaii recently, we went to the Diamond Resorts presentation. They gave us $220 towards Helicopter ride. Recently, we did HGVC in Vegas again. They gave us free room for the weekend, plus $50 gift card plus $50 in chips.

At the Grandview presentation, we got free weekend in Hotel room plus $100 Casino Voucher.

Make sure to press the OPC for EVERYTHING that he is authorized to give out. We almost did 2 on one trip to Vegas, but the Grandview presentation made us late for the 2nd one, so we could not get our gifts. We were getting a free Helicopter ride, and 2 for 1 dinner, and a free show. That was a good deal. We will look for that one again. The OPC was at the Caesars Palace and I can't remember which TS he was fronting for.
 
My question concerns the fact that most of the presenters knew we had been to multiple presentations, almost as though they were communicating about their "marks" via some social networking.

Anybody ever experience or know of a Timeshare Salesman webpage?


Now THAT would be a fun board to lurk on... :eek:

Any Weasels care to comment? Come on, I know you read this... :hysterical:
 
Just got back from our trip to Honolulu.

We're timeshare presentation junkies. This trip 5 presetations Hilton, Wyhdam, Shells, Marriot & Paradise-Blue equaled $600.00 in gifts. Cant really explain it and don't care to defend it we just do it. I guess we keep the street hawkers employeed.

My question concerns the fact that most of the presenters knew we had been to multiple presentations, almost as though they were communicating about their "marks" via some social networking.

Anybody ever experience or know of a Timeshare Salesman webpage?

I had to laugh at that. I thought we were junkies seeing as how we have been to about 10 over the last 5 years... we did buy one (and another on re-sale) so I don't feel too bad.
 
Time Share Presentations

Never attend them. You will only lose money, time, and more money. Never attend them. The carnival atmosphere, loud music and cheap gift are not worth it................:shrug:
 
To each his / her own, but...

Never attend them. You will only lose money, time, and more money. Never attend them. The carnival atmosphere, loud music and cheap gift are not worth it................:shrug:

I completely agree with your observation / advice, but some people simply do not value their time, wasting precious (and forever lost) hours to collect worthless trinkets :eek:. It never ceases to astound me...:shrug:
 
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I will say that I like to attend presentations for new points systems. I learned a TON at the HGVC and Diamond Points presentations. I have no problem saying no, but it let me decide which programs to buy resale. TUG has lots of information, but the TS salespeople can give decent info if you press them.
 
I completely agree with your observation / advice, but some people simply do not value their time, wasting precious (and forever lost) hours to collect worthless trinkets :eek:. It never ceases to astound me...:shrug:

I'm of the same school of thought, never go. I just don't like to waste my precious vacation hours.

However I have to admit that I did get sucked into one last time. The offer was just way too good to pass up even though I knew what I was in for. For $20 deposit, I got a free weekend at the resort instead of some cheap hotel, and $150 check in my pocket all in exchange for two hours of my time. (Okay, so they promised 60 minutes, but I knew it was going to be longer)

So, went through the tour, didn't take too long since we were already staying at the resort and did actually get some of my questions answered about RCI. Came to the end and he just wouldn't take our no no no for an answer. So my husband - sneaky as he is - finally "admitted" to our salesman that he did reservations for a different timeshare resort (one we actually own) and just had been curious to see what other resorts offered since theirs was so expensive.

We were out of there (with their money!) before the salesman could scrape his jaw off the floor. :whoopie:

Don't know if I would recommend this tactic to the faint of heart, or if it would really work at all resorts without getting yelled at, but it sure did get us out of there! :ponder:
 
Now THAT would be a fun board to lurk on... :eek:

Any Weasels care to comment? Come on, I know you read this... :hysterical:

There used to be a better one, but it got shut down :crash: -I believe from all the slander suits generated back and forth between resorts, but I could be off on that.

All I know of now is www.insidethegate.com
 
Most of these responses were pure gold. I vote for the no-go. Life's too short...

If you do go my second vote is the t-shirt for TUG. Any oh yeah, I'd take the plunge and buy resale because it sounds like you've got a handle on things. You can't beat some of the prices that are out there.

X2

I bought a week in Daytona Beach for $500 out the door... from ebay. A week in Hawaii closed with zero bids... asking price was $295 plus closing. Deals are out there!!!!!
 
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