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Stay away from Affordable_Luxury_Item [AKA Memorable Vacations]

I wish you a complete refund. I was fumbling around, too, but glad I had the good sense to save the correspondence, and that I used my AMEX card. He is a slippery snake, and I feel very happy and relieved that my dispute has been closed successfully. I wish the same for you, and everyone who's been scammed by Jon C. and "Memorable Vacations".
You done good! ;):cheer:

jlwquilter said:
Thanks. But I am really just fumbling around and doing the best I can. I've not been in this type of transaction disaster before and certainly hope never to be again!
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Thank you for telling me. I need to find out.

Imretiredarmy said:
Egret,

Ebay removed your comments from your negative feedback for memorablevacations. Do you know why that was done?
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I was warned by another TUGGER that he had responded to my negative feedback. I decided that I'm irritated enough already and chose not to look at it.

Criminy, I have to step up my game. He is indeed a slippery snake.

Why does eBay allow these shinanigans? Doesn't anyone report this guy to eBay? There's four of us right now on TUG that are having issues with our eBay-purchased timeshares in a fairly short time period of each other. Why would someone change their ID that was previous selling timeshares under a different ID? :rolleyes:

You cannot believe the emails I get from this guy. I may have to share some of the highlights some time to keep the thread current.

Have to go.....Got more work to do. :mad:
 
Egret, it may have been removed due to your reference to TUG. I just looked and eBay doesn't allow links and scripts in feedback. While your feedback didn't contain any, it may have been on the border enough to tip it to John C. favor when he complained.

The good thing is that it seeems that while your comments were removed, the negative hit is still there and people can see that you were not happy. You did bring down his rating also.

It's more work for you, but you might at least email eBay to question the exact reason the comments were removed and get a chance to re-phrase things if possible.
 
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Good Idea about contacting eBay and maybe getting a chance to re-phrase

jlwquilter said:
Egret, it may have been removed due to your reference to TUG. I just looked and eBay doesn't allow links and scripts in feedback. While your feedback didn't contain any, it may have been on the border enough to tip it to John C. favor when he complained.

The good thing is that it seeems that while your comments were removed, the negative hit is still there and people can see that you were not happy. You did bring down his rating also.

It's more work for you, but you might at least email eBay to question the exact reason the comments were removed and get a chance to re-phrase things if possible.
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I just saw he relisted the timeshare tonight that we were in dispute over.

I wonder if that means what I think it means. :ponder:
 
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Talent312 said:
His partial refund can now be used as evidence of his failure to perform.
So you pulled a fast one on him. :clap:
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Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence.
Napoleon Bonaparte

:wall:
 
Egret1986 said:
I just saw he relisted the timeshare tonight that we were in dispute over.

I wonder if that means what I think it means. :ponder:
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So he's re-listed the timeshare you bought and paid for but never got in your name? If so he did something similar to me... re-listed the timeshare I bought (not the one I thought I bought though) and he had already transferred into my name.

I thought he was churning. That he needed the new money to refund my money but it couldn't have been that as he would have needed to get the timeshare out of my name faster in order to move it on to the new sucker. When he didn't, I went to thinking that he's selling the same timeshare multiple times and hoping that at least one buyer gives up and he keeps that money for free and eventually transferres the timeshare to one 'lucky' buyer.

His whole scam is stupid to me. He would have made a clear $500+ profit if he has sold me what he was supposed to. We all know that the real time and effort to do a timeshare transfer is a few hours, if that. He could make a decent amount of money, at least as side business, but he's too greedy or lazy or brainless to do that.
 
Yeah, I can't figure out what it is with him.

jlwquilter said:
He could make a decent amount of money, at least as side business, but he's too greedy or lazy or brainless to do that.
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Yes, I do know how long it takes to draft a deed and mail it off to the County because I have experienced it many times. I bought a timeshare this week on eBay. I just got an email that the deed has been prepared and is being mailed to the County for recording.
 
Our deed is recorded into our names, and Jon did send me a recorded copy, which I printed and faxed to Starwood last Thursday. I just hope the deed is accepted by Starwood. Starwood is picky.

I have had several that Starwood put into different names, based on deeding differences. Whether there is a full middle name, initial, or none, Starwood wants the deeding to match exactly; otherwise, they don't recognize the deed as the same owner. We have two right now that don't show under our names, because of minor deeding differences. It's ridiculous, really, because I cannot log into my Starwood account and see everything we own.

Jon's subtly-worded rude comments are not lost on me. He is good at being rude. I feel sorry for anyone who has to deal with his incompetence and wish there was some way to complain to ebay, but there isn't.
 
What sort of comments has he made in his emails? Is he threatning or just rude? Just curious because if he is threatning or using profanity, then he can be reported to ebay.

He needs to be kicked off ebay.
 
Sarah, his emails are just sarcastic. He isn't threatening, and he doesn't use foul language. He is good at sarcasm. I have never been good at that.
 
rickandcindy23 said:
He is good at sarcasm. I have never been good at that.
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Yeah, right. Like I believe that. :rolleyes: [sarcasm]
But actually, I think it takes a certain level of cynicism about the human condition that some folks have been lucky enuff not to have reached.
 
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After reading this whole thread and others I concur that there should be a sticky with a list of questionable sellers/companies on the site.
 
Yes, he does need to be kicked off eBay, but eBay has labeled him a TOP SELLER

Imretiredarmy said:
What sort of comments has he made in his emails? Is he threatning or just rude? Just curious because if he is threatning or using profanity, then he can be reported to ebay.

He needs to be kicked off ebay.
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Here's his most recent email to me:

Dear egret1986,

This email is your formal notification that the continued slandering through you and any of your colleagues (JLWQUITER) on ebay or other sites will be considered HARASSMENT and will not be tolerated. I will be pressing charges if another word is uttered about my company in the manner you are conducting.

harassment (either harris-meant or huh-rass-meant) n. the act of systematic and/or continued unwanted and annoying actions of one party or a group, including threats and demands. The purposes may vary, including racial prejudice, personal malice, an attempt to force someone to quit a job or grant sexual favors, apply illegal pressure to collect a bill, or merely gain sadistic pleasure from making someone fearful or anxious. Such activities may be the basis for a lawsuit

Defamation?also called calumny, vilification, traducement, slander (for transitory statements), and libel (for written, broadcast, or otherwise published words)?is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government, or nation a negative image. It is usually a requirement that this claim be false and that the publication is communicated to someone other than the person defamed


- memorablevacations

This does not worry me in the least. The evidence I have supports all my comments. Everything I have said is factual and can be supported through the documents I have provided to my credit card company.

I have reported his actions to eBay. I have also reported the listing of the timeshare that I had attempted to purchase from him, which has been relisted. Although relisted, he has not refunded my money. Why does eBay allow this type of activity? Without Buyers, there would be no Sellers.

Mr. C. has been given a deadline to refund my money, which expires shortly. This new listing of the disputed timeshare will be sent to PAYPAL and my credit card company. This is proof that he has no intention of providing the purchased item. Payment was made in January. This is now the end of March with no effort on his part to complete the transaction nor an explanation as to why he hasn't.
 
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"The Truth" is an absolute defense to any claim of slander or libel.

If the property had significant value, it could be worthwhile filing a lawsuit for specific performance and a notice of lis pendens (legal action pending) to put a cloud on the title, but alas, TS's simply are worth the cost.
 
In the interest of full disclosure I announce that my dispute with John C. is over. Today I received the fees PayPal had withheld (appropriately I might add) for the money John C. had refunded me. I am therefore whole, except for the recording fees I paid to get the new deed recorded and various mailing costs for documents to the credit card company, etc. And the many, many hours I spent on handling this transaction that were needless if only he had done his job in the first place.

I frankly thought he was running a scam. I now think he's inept (painfully so) like Cindy first suggested in her titling of this thread. He doesn't know what he's selling, can't properly transfer products to buyers, can't communicate effectively with buyers, and when trouble hits as it will given what he does and doesn't do, he has no idea of how to deal with it and minimize damage. I know I certainly am not willing to ever transact with him again.
 
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Gee, I don't have that choice to make.

jlwquilter said:
I know I certainly am not willing to ever transact with him again.
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When I tried to go into the re-listing of the timeshare in dispute to report it to eBay, Memorable Vacations has blocked me. :bawl: Not!!! :D

I've vowed to myself to only buy from those resellers on eBay that I have done business with in the past and was happy with the transactions. The only way I will buy outside this group of resellers is if I can choose the closing company. I really hope I've learned my lesson this time. Too much expended energy and time on my part and too many other options and timeshares out there.

My issue with John C. and Memorable Vacations is not fully resolved as yet, but I'm optimistic that there's a light at the end of this tunnel, no thanks to him.
 
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Did you happen to notice that, in his attempt to use "legalese", he referred to you as (JLWQUITER)? I don't think you're a "quiter" at all. :rolleyes:


jlwquilter said:
I frankly thought he was running a scam. I now think he's inept (painfully so) like Cindy first suggested in her titling of this thread. He doesn't know what he's selling, can't properly transfer products to buyers, can't communicate effectively with buyers, and when trouble hits as it will given what he does and doesn't do, he has no idea of how to deal with it and minimize damage. I know I certainly am not willing to ever transact with him again.
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I have removed the last name of the party in question per their request, as apparently part of their "agreement" was that you were not to divulge personal contact information about the parties involved in the transaction.

I have replaced the full last name with simply John C. to keep the thread intact.

Thank you for your understanding, despite any personal opinions I may have on either side of this discussion, If someone does have a personal privacy concern, we do respect those here on TUG both for members and guests alike.
 
TUGBrian said:
I have removed the last name of the party in question per their request, as apparently part of their "agreement" was that you were not to divulge personal contact information about the parties involved in the transaction.

I have replaced the full last name with simply John C. to keep the thread intact.

Thank you for your understanding, despite any personal opinions I may have on either side of this discussion, If someone does have a personal privacy concern, we do respect those here on TUG both for members and guests alike.
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I am ok with anything you have to do Brian. However, I am curious as to whom had this suppossed 'agreement' with him? I challenge him to produce any such agreement, in emails, etc.

He is running a business. What 'personal information' is being revealed? That he is a inept seller? No one has posted his home address or phone number.

I can state unequivocably that I did not ever agree to any such thing myself. The ONLY thing I ever agreed to was to drop my credit card dispute if/when I received all my funds back. And I did.

It's actually 'Jon C.'. This is obviously an attempt by him at damage control. It would never occur to him to just do things right in the first place and avoid any disputes to being with. Nope.
 
I was not willing to remove any information that was available on the ebay ads themselves...his request was for the removal of his last name...which as far as I can tell is not on any of the public ads or sites around (if it is, let me know...ill add it all back).
 
Closing Companies

When you are purchasing from these types of Sellers you should make sure you can use your own closing company. The State of Florida does not regulate these closing companies. You don't know if they put your money in an escrow account or not. We have had two closing companies in other States close and leave town with the escrow money.
It is a crime that eBay does not regulate the people who sell timeshare on their site without a license. If you dealt with a licensed real estate agent or Broker you would have someone to complain to. They could lose their license.
 
Judi Kozlowski said:
When you are purchasing from these types of Sellers you should make sure you can use your own closing company. The State of Florida does not regulate these closing companies.... If you dealt with a licensed real estate agent or Broker you would have someone to complain to. They could lose their license.
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I would certainly pay attention to anything Judy-K says, as she is a very highly regarded and respected, licensed broker, and many have sung her praises (routinely in the HGVC forum).

While one can find great deals on e-bay and many here have made successful buys from there, it certainly is more like a wild-West frontier town where the closest Sheriff is in the next town or on the take.

Other than a R/E broker, IMHO, the safest buy is from a fellow TUG member who lists their TS here. They are at least more likely to know what they are selling and willing to make sure the transfer goes smoothly.
 
TUGBrian said:
I was not willing to remove any information that was available on the ebay ads themselves...his request was for the removal of his last name...which as far as I can tell is not on any of the public ads or sites around (if it is, let me know...ill add it all back).
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Okey-dokey. Any potential buyer that is trying to research first will probably use 'Memorable Vacations' or 'Lakeside Closing' as a search term rather than his name. I did when I considered buying but found very little. Today I would find a whole bunch!
 
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