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Special Assessment hits Cypress Harbour

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Just got my maintenance fee budget for 2013. Total maintenance fee increase of almost 24% for my special week.
The main difference is described in footnote 4 which I copied below:


4) The Special Reserve Fee of $180.00 in FY2013 is the result of anticipated projects for window replacement, building siding and roof repair.

I had no clue this is coming. My concern that once this starts who knows whether this a regular thing vs. a one time thing because reserve fee got much lower than expected.
 
How much are the total MF's this year at Cypress Harbour?

If $180 takes it up 24% then they aren't as high as many of the other Marriott properties.
 
Proposed maintenance fees

The proposed maintenance fees are:

Special $1,254.01
Sport $1,229.91
Summer $1,243.73

Over the years the fees have been very moderate in comparison to other resorts. I attribute this to the fact that the resort is managed very well from both the HOA and Marriott and has repeatedly won awards for the facility and management.

This resort is ~21 years old and needs some repair. I would rather spend some money now to sustain my "investment" than have it run down to nothing...

The total renovation will be somewhere around $13M for windows, wood and roofing.

My three weeks will hit me hard, but without remorse.

Question for the moderator... Am I allowed to copy in the actual email?
 
The proposed maintenance fees are:

Special $1,254.01
Sport $1,229.91
Summer $1,243.73

Over the years the fees have been very moderate in comparison to other resorts. I attribute this to the fact that the resort is managed very well from both the HOA and Marriott and has repeatedly won awards for the facility and management.

This resort is ~21 years old and needs some repair. I would rather spend some money now to sustain my "investment" than have it run down to nothing...

The total renovation will be somewhere around $13M for windows, wood and roofing.

My three weeks will hit me hard, but without remorse.

Question for the moderator... Am I allowed to copy in the actual email?

Yes, as long as you make it clear that you're quoting it. If you're not sure of how to use the bracketed quote feature here you can post the email text and I'll come back in to edit it for you. Thanks. :)
 
Highlights from proposed Cypress Harbour 2013 budget

Here are the highlights from the 2013 proposed budget:

Cypress Harbour Condominium Association, Inc.
2013 Proposed Operating, Property Tax and Reserve Budget
Highlights

As we all know, our beautiful resort opened 21 years ago in 1991. Much of the building construction is wood combined with cinder block and steel studs. Over the last year, we have discovered two serious issues with the buildings:

We are experiencing deterioration of the wood trim and frames around many of our villa windows. Over time as this condition progresses, the windows begin to leak causing water damage in the villas. In the past, there were minor cases of wood deterioration as one can expect from the humid Florida weather. However, the number of occurrences and repairs needed have been increasing at a rapid rate. A vendor was contracted to thoroughly study and report on every window in every building. The unpleasant consensus is that we have major repairs to make which include removing every window and assessing the condition of the window and frame. Once the condition is assessed the window is either reinstalled with the seal, caulk, etc. all replaced or in many cases the window is completely replaced. All surrounding wood trim will be replaced with Hardi Board, which is considerably more water-resistant and will require much less maintenance than the wood trim has required over the years.
Although we are in the last phase of replacing the flat part of the 22 buildings’ roofs, the mansard roof panels, low-sloped roofs and interior wall parapet panels are showing considerable deterioration which over time will result in leakage and other problems. We hired a roofing consultant to evaluate all roof areas. Unfortunately, while these areas were expected to last close to 30 years, which is reflected in the reserve study and analysis, they will not last another nine years and need major repairs now.
Right now, we are in process of obtaining firm price estimates and quotes on these repairs. The preliminary estimates for the project are approximately $4 million for the windows and $8.7 million for the roofs. Yes, you read it correctly.

While we could spread these projects over four to five years, we would continue to have emergency issues which need immediate attention. The Board discussed this at length and we believe it is in everyone’s best interest to complete the repairs as quickly as possible. We hope to have the contractors price the entire project and guarantee their pricing for the duration of the project. If we are successful, the total expenditures should be less than the above estimates.

The current plan is to start the window work now; it will take approximately 18 months to complete. To do the work requires that the villa is vacant; thus, we need to manage the project around the slow times in order to reduce the inconvenience to our owners and guests.

The roof work has no impact on owners and guests other than generating noise. We are able to phase this project over three years by repairing the most critical needs first, etc.

How are we going to pay for this almost $13 million? If we spread the work over many years, we would have to increase the Reserve Fund contribution by at least $100 for 2013 and continue increasing at a 5-7% rate indefinitely. However, if we ask for more now, we can collect all the funds needed over a shorter period, have the work done over a shorter period and thus, reduce the reserve contribution when the project is complete.

Thus, we are currently anticipating an increase in the Reserve Fund of approximately $200 for each of 2013, 2014 and 2015. This would take the Reserve Fund contribution from $285 per owner to $485 per owner for each of those three years. We currently expect, barring any other critical needs, to reduce the reserve contribution back to $346 per owner in 2016, which is the compound impact of a 5% increase, which we believe is adequate given what we know now. In all 21 years, and the 18+ years some of the current Board Members have served on the Board, this is the first time we are recommending this drastic course of action.

You will see this special reserve contribution of approximately $200 reflected on the enclosed proposed 2013 budget as follows:

$180.00 on the “special reserve fee” line. This is the actual amount which will be added to the Reserve Fund.
$3.34 additional credit card expense based on the estimated number of owners who will pay this special reserve contribution by credit card.
$18.00 additional management fee expense.
We currently expect a similar $200 reserve charge will be included in the 2014 and 2015 budgets, so the Association collects a full $600 for each one-week timeshare interest. Of course, the 2014 and 2015 budgets are still subject to formal review and approval processes, which will take place at the appropriate time over the next two years. Of course, we will always ask for our owners input on such a course of action.

We hope you agree with the Board’s decision. We want to hear from you on this issue. Please feel free to email any one of us with your comments and suggestions – whether good or bad. We are also continuing to explore ways to reduce the overall cost of the project, or perhaps modify the timing of billing and collecting the needed funds, to reduce the overall expense for each owner. We will keep you posted on this.

Some highlights on the rest of the proposed budget are:

The regular reserve contribution for 2013 remains at $285 in the proposed budget. Right now, we are operating at a surplus for 2012. Any surplus realized will be allocated to reserves which we hope will allow us to keep the reserve contribution the same as 2012.
As we outlined in the spring newsletter, the Property Tax assessment is higher due to an increase in our assessed valuation. Unfortunately, the current assessor is not considering third-party sales when determining the fair value of our villas. We appealed this decision and hope to have a favorable response before the Annual Meeting. If that occurs, we expect that the approved budget will reflect a reduced Property Tax contribution.
The Operating Fund increase is just under 3%, once you eliminate the additional management fee and credit card expense totaling $21.34 per unit week. In light of the major repairs, we worked with management to keep this increase to a minimum. We are using $6.44 per unit week of the surplus accumulated in the Operating Fund from prior years to achieve this result.
The majority of the increase in the Operating Fund is due to a projected 3.1% average associate wage increase for 2013. While these raises are not automatic, we believe they are critical to retaining the excellent staff we have. We have spoken over the years about the competitive Orlando market for time share and hotel workers, despite the 8.2% unemployment rate. We all benefit from skilled associates – and we must be doing something right since once again our AES (Associate Engagement Score) put us in “World Class” within the organization and our GSS (Guest Satisfaction Scores) are as high as they have ever been.
The rest of the increase comes from small contract increases, marginal increases in housekeeping supplies, projected increases in health and benefit costs and day to day maintenance of our aging resort.
We will discuss each line item of the budget during our regularly scheduled meetings in October as well as the Annual Meeting on October 26th. As always, we welcome your thoughts and comments.

We endeavor to present a “worst-case” scenario when we prepare this preliminary budget mailing. Working with management, we do our best to find opportunities to reduce the final budget we approve. As it stands now, the following is the maintenance fee per unit week based on the proposed budget:

Special $1,254.01
Sport $1,229.91
Summer $1,243.73
 
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This is the second, I think, proposed budget that's mentioned an across-the-board associate wage increase - I wonder if MVW is making a push to increase wages for maybe more than what MVCI would have done? I dunno, I'm not used to looking at proposed budgets because my resorts haven't historically given them in advance of approval.
 
This special assessment is for "surprise" needs? It sounds very much like the Sabal Palms needs of three or four years ago--wood rot around the windows, roof needs, etc. So it seems to happen at about 20 years old for Orlando resorts with such wood. They should have checked and discovered it as soon as Sabal Palms discovered their problems. Maybe they did, but it seems like they were surprised more recently than that.
 
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SOme very concerning things here, a 21 year old resort where some of the board members have been on the board for 18 years? Sounds like an "old boys club" to me. Apparently they dropped the ball. Given that this issue is coming up 9 years before expectation, they should have 21 years worth of cash in there to cover it, is this extra $180 just the difference to cover the 9 year shortage?

I don't really agree with a management fee percentage to MVCI on reserve funds. On operating fees, yes, taxes and reserve no. In many cases, the resorts use MVCI Renovation Services to perform the renovations. That is certainly a profit center for MVCI. So they are actually double dipping here.
 
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The Cypress Harbour Board, with approval of the owners, have regularly adopted the alternate reserve funding method. I am not surprised by the need for a special assessment under those circumstances.

What strikes me as unusual is the cost per week for credit card use relative to other items, such as electricity. I also question the 24% increase in the management fee - that seems excessive, but may very well be the price we pay to have Marriott involved. Their deal is pretty good for them. The wage increases are fine with me. The associates at the resort are top notch.
 
The Cypress Harbour Board, with approval of the owners, have regularly adopted the alternate reserve funding method. I am not surprised by the need for a special assessment under those circumstances.

What strikes me as unusual is the cost per week for credit card use relative to other items, such as electricity. I also question the 24% increase in the management fee - that seems excessive, but may very well be the price we pay to have Marriott involved. Their deal is pretty good for them. The wage increases are fine with me. The associates at the resort are top notch.

Surprisingly, Cypress Harbour owners voted against last year (or perhaps the year before) not fully funding the reserves. That is the only time that I have heard of a Marriott Resort owner base in Florida doing so.

The thing about the management fee. If the MFs go up 25%, so does the management fee, since it is indexed to the MFs at 10%.
 
Surprisingly, Cypress Harbour owners voted against last year (or perhaps the year before) not fully funding the reserves. That is the only time that I have heard of a Marriott Resort owner base in Florida doing so.

The thing about the management fee. If the MFs go up 25%, so does the management fee, since it is indexed to the MFs at 10%.

I may be wrong, but I believe the vote has been for the alternate method (not fully funding) each year as far back as 2005.

As to the management fee contract, that is exactly my point. Marriott has a built in escalation that has no correlation to the services they provide or what would be negotiated in an open market.
 
I may be wrong, but I believe the vote has been for the alternate method (not fully funding) each year as far back as 2005.

See posts #8 and #11 in this thread. This is where I got that information.
 
By voting to waive this Florida requirement to "fully fund the reserves", a Florida timeshare resort can fund the same way resorts typically do in other states. It does not imply financial irresponsibility. Many people are confused by the fact that the Florida law uses the term "fully fund" in a way other than what actuaries would consider "full finding".
 
Reading through the SC fully-funded mandate it strikes me, too, that if it's not waived the HOA would be billed on a pro-rated basis for certain common area items that are contractually the responsibility of Marriott and not the HOA (things like the pool bar/grille areas, the reception areas, etc.) I don't see anything in the mandate that would allow for Marriott-cost refurb items to be exempt from the full-funding measure. :shrug:
 
I would love for the FL HOA's to put real numbers to the difference between fully funded and amended funding. Otherwise it leave owners guessing. I know what I'm told but I'd like to actually see the difference.

With what our two Mariott resorts collect for cash reserves when compared to every other timeshare we own, it's hard for me to believe they'd ever require a SA because they were short in the cash reserve fund. It's something that makes me scratch my head.
 
SOme very concerning things here, a 21 year old resort where some of the board members have been on the board for 18 years? Sounds like an "old boys club" to me. Apparently they dropped the ball. Given that this issue is coming up 9 years before expectation, they should have 21 years worth of cash in there to cover it, is this extra $180 just the difference to cover the 9 year shortage?

I don't really agree with a management fee percentage to MVCI on reserve funds. On operating fees, yes, taxes and reserve no. In many cases, the resorts use MVCI Renovation Services to perform the renovations. That is certainly a profit center for MVCI. So they are actually double dipping here.

Talk about cronyism and incestuous relationships amongst Board Members and Marriott, this is a stellar example of why Marriott HOA Boards must have turn-over. Granted, the Cypress Harbour board has done a good job, but the number of members on that Board who have served on that board forever, and several other Marriott HOA boards at the same time, is disgusting. You can be sure that Marriott's take on this is "better the devil you know, than the devil you don't". I find the character of those Boards Members who have served ridiculously long terms and not opted out on their own accord disconcerting. It seems that they don't know when it's time to go.

That being said, in my opinion, Cypress Harbour looks better today than it did when it opened, and the resort is amongst the best managed Marriott Vacation Club resorts that I know. The General Manager at Cypress Harbour is amongst the best in the business (a contemporary to the General Manager at Desert Springs). However, I would have expected repairs and replacements like those proposed to have been readied for over time.

I do not believe that a Special Assessment should be referred to an increase in the maintenance fee. The maintenance fee, taxes and reserve fund are annualized line-item expenses, a Special Assessment is beyond that scope.
 
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I would love for the FL HOA's to put real numbers to the difference between fully funded and amended funding. Otherwise it leave owners guessing. I know what I'm told but I'd like to actually see the difference.

I would agree. It would be interesting to see what the reserve amount would be without the fully funded requirement and the amount with that requirement. This is truly the only way owners can make an educated decision. The current "the board recommends voting against thr fully funded requirement" just doesn't cut it.

I do not believe that a Special Assessment should be referred to an increase in the maintenance fee. The maintenance fee, taxes and reserve fund are annualized line-item expenses, a Special Assessment is beyond that scope.

I would agree. The increase in MFs should be based on the numbers without the special assessment. Not that the SA isn't important, it is and it should be pointed out as it has. Though it shouldn't be computed in to the increase percentage as it should only be temporary.
 
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