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Southwest Airlines will start charging for checked bags on tickets purchased on or after 5/28/25

Trying to use flight credits and couldn't use three to pay the entire airfare. Next time, I book each leg of our trip separate. I learned something new today.
I learned that trick about 20 years ago, when I realized that Alaska doesn't discount when booking roundtrip. Nowadays, the only time I don't book each leg of a trip separately is if I'm using a companion fare.

Another advantage to booking each leg separately is that if something happens with the first leg of your trip or you change your outbound itinerary, the second leg is not in jeopardy.
 
I learned that trick about 20 years ago, when I realized that Alaska doesn't discount when booking roundtrip. Nowadays, the only time I don't book each leg of a trip separately is if I'm using a companion fare.

Another advantage to booking each leg separately is that if something happens with the first leg of your trip or you change your outbound itinerary, the second leg is not in jeopardy.
Most domestic fares don't discount for RT. Been that way for awhile.
 
I disliked when Southwest allows handicapped passengers to purchase a lower price ticket and tallow them to board the airline before Business Class Tickets purchaser
When has SW ever charged less for handicapped passengers? They do allow them to preboard, just like every other airline.
 
When has SW ever charged less for handicapped passengers? They do allow them to preboard, just like every other airline.
He didn't say "SW ever charged less for handicapped passengers." He said they are allowed to buy a cheaper fare than Business Select and board first. Of course, we all know the flight cures their ailments.
 
This will likely be a net positive for me because since bags are no longer part of the all-in price. Under this paradigm, the people who need their stuff subsidize the people who do not.
Although, at least for now for lower 48 travel there is a cap on bag fees, and that's around $75. ShipGo starts at that price and while you do need to send the bag a week in advance, they offer to pick it up at your house and deliver it to the first hotel / resort whatever you're going to. IMHO this added value (assuming it works, lots of people claim it did) probably could kick in at a lower price - $65, $55? IDK what people feel is worth paying to not need to haul the bag to and from the airport. I seriously considered it for our trip to CA this time, but Alaska only charged $35 for the checked bags vs $50 that I'm pretty sure United does. If it had been $50 we might have done it. I might still do it for a suitcase that broke while I was here (a wheel broke off so I can't get it through an airport) if we decide we have stuff to bring back that won't fit in our existing (and my replacement) suitcase.

Of course - I'm sure many people don't realize or think of the shipping option, or can't make that work for various reasons. Mostly inability to plan IMO.

Of course, that assumes you need to have / send "a fullsize suitcase" - I bet if you squish down to various box sizes - while you'd have to drive to a Fedex or UPS store, you could still potentially send it ground cheaper.
 
When has SW ever charged less for handicapped passengers? They do allow them to preboard, just like every other airline.
To this OP, I have seen handicapped passengers in a wheelchair board a SW plane early. But, at the end of the flight that walked off the plane and they do not need a wheelchair . IMHO, something is wrong.
 
To this OP, I have seen handicapped passengers in a wheelchair board a SW plane early. But, at the end of the flight that walked off the plane and they do not need a wheelchair . IMHO, something is wrong.
Assigned seating is going to change much of that. We've already gone down that road and it won't be much of an issue after they implement assigned seating.
 
There are all kinds of businesses who avoid the nickel & dime game bc it annoys & turns off a lot of customers. Not everyone is wired the same way. Lots of people would rather pay more vs getting a surcharge for every little thing. This psychology is true across the board in many industries not just the airlines. “Value” is not the same thing as “price” & many people are motivated by a good value,
Generally speaking I really dislike nickle and dimeing. Especially "junk fees". Are checked bags a "junk fee"? That's hard to say, you certainly CAN fly without checking bags. But I think many people would like a "bundle" of what economy "used to be" - i.e. pick a seat, carry on, and some checked bag(s). I would agree that having to buy 2 checked bags like "you used to" would be overkill though. I would have preferred if airlines had named the completely stripped down something else, and I'd prefer it if it wasn't so confusing now with Economy, Economy Plus, Preferred this and that - there's like 3 or 4 "economy" tickets now and it's way too hard to figure out IMHO.

I personally would prefer something like power tool companies do where there's the "bare tool" - i.e. absolute minimum for cheapest possible price, and a "bundle" of some sort that is everything you need to get going, like a battery, charger, case and tool. I.e. there really ought to be a "bundle" that's somewhat clear that "this is what you need to use the thing if you're just starting out". Or in this case, "this is probably what you need for a "don't know any better" flight.
 
He didn't say "SW ever charged less for handicapped passengers." He said they are allowed to buy a cheaper fare than Business Select and board first. Of course, we all know the flight cures their ailments.
Flying Southwest does result in the most miracles of any airline I've flown. Thirty people board in wheelchairs, and 25 are able to walk by the time the plane lands.
 
Flying with 2 checked bags is only helpful when you are:

1) skiing, golfing etc. and need the extra bags
2) moving e.g. college student heading to school

Otherwise one checked bag is sufficient for most flights. Having a credit card will make this free.

When skiing we will now prefer United because we are lifetime gold and get 2 free bags up to 70 lbs. Southwest lost that business with this change unless the flight plus extra bag fee is less.
 
Being Canadian, I have never flown Southwest, and suspect I never will, but in general I think airlines, or any corporation, that nickels and dimes can be fine so long as there is a realistic way for you as the consumer to realize some savings.

If a $400 flight stays $400, and the baggage fee is just extra, it stinks, but if the price drops to $350, and you can avoid the baggage fee with a credit card, then it could be a win.

We normally fly WestJet, which somewhat recently introduced an UltraBasic fare, a lot of people were up in arms about it because you have to pay extra for everything, I understand why people don't like that, but I love it, it makes the price lower and I have a WestJet credit card so we get one free checked bag each, so the only additional fee would be for assigned seating if we want it and even then the kids get assigned seats for free.
 
Generally speaking I really dislike nickle and dimeing. Especially "junk fees". Are checked bags a "junk fee"? That's hard to say, you certainly CAN fly without checking bags. But I think many people would like a "bundle" of what economy "used to be" - i.e. pick a seat, carry on, and some checked bag(s). I would agree that having to buy 2 checked bags like "you used to" would be overkill though. I would have preferred if airlines had named the completely stripped down something else, and I'd prefer it if it wasn't so confusing now with Economy, Economy Plus, Preferred this and that - there's like 3 or 4 "economy" tickets now and it's way too hard to figure out IMHO.
I figure that what people say with their pocket book is what matters, not what they say out loud. Companies nickel-and-dime because they make more money that way, which means that in the end enough people buy the cheap ticket that piles on added fees, rather than the more expensive ticket that includes the perks, to make the nickel-and-dime sales a net revenue generator.
 
They usually open up their thanksgiving holiday calendar by now. Wonder if they will hold it until May to coincide with the changes?
 
I figure that what people say with their pocket book is what matters, not what they say out loud. Companies nickel-and-dime because they make more money that way, which means that in the end enough people buy the cheap ticket that piles on added fees, rather than the more expensive ticket that includes the perks, to make the nickel-and-dime sales a net revenue generator.
The issue is that with nickle and diming, you can't know what the equivalent costs are or certainly not easily with aggregators etc. All it really shows is people are OK being lied to about the price and do not have the ability to get to real out the door pricing on multiple options at the same time IMHO. I think a good aggregator / search engine should start giving you a "choose what bags etc you need" before it shows any flight options, and then give the pricing for those actual bundles for you to choose between.
 
People are using the junk fees term, which used to only refer to fees on mortgages. I remember as a RE broker that that term was bandied about a lot in the industry. It's taken on new meaning.
 
People are using the junk fees term, which used to only refer to fees on mortgages. I remember as a RE broker that that term was bandied about a lot in the industry. It's taken on new meaning.
Junk fees are usually considered fees that add no real value. I wouldn't consider checked luggage fees to be junk fees. I would perhaps consider a seat selection fee to be a junk fee since you do need a seat to sit in on the plane. You don't necessarily need to check a bag. Sometimes the term convenience fee is better, but in very few cases do the fees really add value. Kind of a reason why people don't free shipping. People don't really see value in shipping and don't like paying shipping fees when ordering online.
 
We use to be reasonably loyal to SWA’s, although we only fly for pleasure and not business. But their service began to suffer and they started changing routes and flight times from our home airport, just like everyone else, except they have considerably worse routing than the others.,that started us flying more with AA, Delta and recently UA. It’s frustrating when a non-stop flight becomes a multi-stop/layover flight and you have no other choice of routes.

These changes will just about kill off my desire for fly SWA for the near future. With airlines you can never really say never. Things always change and we find ourselves migrating to the next airline that fulfills our needs best. Still, it’s disappointing that SWA feel they must do away with that which made them stand out in a crowd.
 
If anyone (like me) still wants to fly Southwest, they are offering a great deal when you sign up for a credit card.

Also, in a strange twist, today I signed into my account and discovered that I had been given A-List status until 12/31/25. I have no idea why.

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I don't usually fly Southwest because of their limited flights in the southeast but shareholders seem to like the recent changes

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If anyone (like me) still wants to fly Southwest, they are offering a great deal when you sign up for a credit card.

Also, in a strange twist, today I signed into my account and discovered that I had been given A-List status until 12/31/25. I have no idea why.

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A-List status ... NICE. Last month I used the link on SWA to apply for this card for to get the companion pass. JPM was a PIA. We are big customers of theirs (including a JPM UA card) and they still flagged our account as possible fraud where it was stuck for over a month even after four phone calls and two in-branch visits. Finally we get approved and get the card rushed to us. Even that was painful. Then after thinking about it I realized the Priority Card would work better for us ... so we call to get it upgraded (more $ for them) and JPM says they can't convert the card until after a full year, no exceptions. WT.... Makes me want to move to a completely different bank all together. And that will likely happen after we use up the Companion Pass. We left WF a year ago because of all their shenanigans.:mad: Large banksters.
 
Being Canadian, I have never flown Southwest, and suspect I never will, but in general I think airlines, or any corporation, that nickels and dimes can be fine so long as there is a realistic way for you as the consumer to realize some savings.

If a $400 flight stays $400, and the baggage fee is just extra, it stinks, but if the price drops to $350, and you can avoid the baggage fee with a credit card, then it could be a win.

We normally fly WestJet, which somewhat recently introduced an UltraBasic fare, a lot of people were up in arms about it because you have to pay extra for everything, I understand why people don't like that, but I love it, it makes the price lower and I have a WestJet credit card so we get one free checked bag each, so the only additional fee would be for assigned seating if we want it and even then the kids get assigned seats for free.
Ironically WestJet originally started out largely basing their business model on Southwest. I used to really enjoy flying with them, but they essentially are charging full airline prices for a fraction of the service. If you like the Al la carte model then Flair airlines is probably a better option (although it has fewer flights).

The Westjet “Ultrabasic” was essentially their Econo fare. They Econo fares then went up to the level of the Econoflex, which have gone up so that it no longer makes much sense to fly with them unless they have a direct flight that Air Canada doesn’t offer.

I’ve flown Southwest a few times and I found the experience to be a fun one with lining up and not having to worry about checked bag fees. I did book with them for an inter-island hop in HI this summer. With no free bags I’ll have to look carefully at Hawaiian airlines now for similar trips.

I don’t see how Southwest can continue with their prior business model - they are leaving a bunch of money on the table by not having the extra fees. But Southwest is also really limited in that they don’t do international destinations. Time will tell, but it’s an end of an era regardless.
 
But Southwest is also really limited in that they don’t do international destinations.
The fly all around Mexico, Latin America and the Caribbean, so that is not accurate. Maybe you meant to say they don't fly to Europe?

Kurt
 
The fly all around Mexico, Latin America and the Caribbean, so that is not accurate. Maybe you meant to say they don't fly to Europe?

Kurt
Nor Asia Pacific, nor Africa, nor the Middle East. I wish they would open up to South America and add Panama as well since they already have penetration in Central America.
 
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I didn’t realize they were flying to South America. In many parts of the aviation industry flights within North America aren’t referred to as international flights per se. For us in Canada flights to the US are usually called “transborder” and flights to Mexico, Caribbean etc would be “Sun Destinations”. International flights typically involve flying longer distances over a large body of water (think Asia, Europe and the Middle East).

SW relies on a single type of narrow body aircraft that limits the destinations they can serve. If they want to charge like the other airlines they’ll have to think about the service they can provide.
 
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