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So you own more than Marriott?

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Location is everything, but you don't always need to own where you want to go. There are other strategies.
Exactly - we purchased our first TS (way before AirBnB) with intent to exchange into other fabulous locations using II. They have rarely, rarely disapointed us since we have been fortunate to be 1) flexible and 2) able to plan far in advance. I think without these two, ownership likely would not have worked out for us the way it has over the years.
 
What do you mean by not having flexibility with your Marriotts because you purchased resale? You can still exchange using II and rent your weeks out?
Most view a points system as more flexible. Flexibility can take many forms but to an extent, I would agree that a points system can be more flexible by removing seasonal restrictions and the limitation of full week stays. That flexibility comes with a cost even without the enrollment realities. My view is that a points system often isn't as flexible as it seems on the surface but it depends on how you use it.
 
Most view a points system as more flexible. Flexibility can take many forms but to an extent, I would agree that a points system can be more flexible by removing seasonal restrictions and the limitation of full week stays. That flexibility comes with a cost even without the enrollment realities. My view is that a points system often isn't as flexible as it seems on the surface but it depends on how you use it.

Very true...and in most cases some of the same constraints dealing with weeks apply to points as well (planning far in advance, for instance).
 
Exactly - we purchased our first TS (way before AirBnB) with intent to exchange into other fabulous locations using II. They have rarely, rarely disapointed us since we have been fortunate to be 1) flexible and 2) able to plan far in advance. I think without these two, ownership likely would not have worked out for us the way it has over the years.

I was talking with someone today (a Marriott owner of both weeks and points) and they mentioned that they also own Hilton points/weeks. They said it's very common to own through multiple vacation companies and I was curious if that's true.

Do you own through more than one company? If so, why did you decide on more than one and how long have you owned both? What other companies do you own? Is it as common as this other owner states?

Just curious
We are chairman benefit level with Marriott and also have a Vacation Villages in the Berkshire week that has a low maintenance fee. I have been using Third Home this past year. I have traded 1 week of Vacation Villages and 1 Marriott week to get 2 weeks of upscale vacation homes. Third Home also gives us a discounted bonus week at another of their homes as soon as they have my deposited week taken. We also get 5 Bonvoy nights a year through credit cards and with Titanium bonuses accumulate a fair amount of Bonvoy Points throughout the year. I just paid about $13000 in total maintenance fees to boost Bonvoy by 6X on the credit card. We also bought another 300,000 Bonvoy Points at their special bonus offer on the Bonvoy credit card, bringing the cost per Bonvoy Point down to about 9/10ths of a penny each. We book Marriott vacation club time in under 60 days to get the 30% discount to stretch our usage, about half the time. Makes our 15000 Vacation Club points yield the equivalent of closer to 18000. We did a Ritz Carlton Yacht cruise in January and used cash for our best trip ever ! Asked and received a cabin upgrade once on board , much to our astonishment since it was far from full in one of their first voyages ! Seriously doubt that will happen ever again . Right place at the right time . Semi retired, so we can travel 6 to 8 weeks a year as a couple / with extended family and friends . Have tried about 45 of the Marriotts / Ritz Residences at least once in 28 years as an Owner. Next year, we strung 4 weeks over 7 locations around a 2 week Asia cruise with Regent. (4 Marriott Bonvoy Hotels, Istanbul/Koh Samui/Tokyo/Arizona , 4 Marriott Vacation Clubs - Bali /Bangkok / Las Vegas / Scottsdale) Gonna need a house sitter LOL
 
We are chairman benefit level with Marriott and also have a Vacation Villages in the Berkshire week that has a low maintenance fee. I have been using Third Home this past year. I have traded 1 week of Vacation Villages and 1 Marriott week to get 2 weeks of upscale vacation homes. Third Home also gives us a discounted bonus week at another of their homes as soon as they have my deposited week taken. We also get 5 Bonvoy nights a year through credit cards and with Titanium bonuses accumulate a fair amount of Bonvoy Points throughout the year. I just paid about $13000 in total maintenance fees to boost Bonvoy by 6X on the credit card. We also bought another 300,000 Bonvoy Points at their special bonus offer on the Bonvoy credit card, bringing the cost per Bonvoy Point down to about 9/10ths of a penny each. We book Marriott vacation club time in under 60 days to get the 30% discount to stretch our usage, about half the time. Makes our 15000 Vacation Club points yield the equivalent of closer to 18000. We did a Ritz Carlton Yacht cruise in January and used cash for our best trip ever ! Asked and received a cabin upgrade once on board , much to our astonishment since it was far from full in one of their first voyages ! Seriously doubt that will happen ever again . Right place at the right time . Semi retired, so we can travel 6 to 8 weeks a year as a couple / with extended family and friends . Have tried about 45 of the Marriotts / Ritz Residences at least once in 28 years as an Owner. Next year, we strung 4 weeks over 7 locations around a 2 week Asia cruise with Regent. (4 Marriott Bonvoy Hotels, Istanbul/Koh Samui/Tokyo/Arizona , 4 Marriott Vacation Clubs - Bali /Bangkok / Las Vegas / Scottsdale) Gonna need a house sitter LOL
So this is the second reference to ThirdHome. I don't own Marriott, I own HGVC and Wyndham. I looked at the ThirdHome site and it's not clear to me - how do you all trade via these other exchanges when (maybe VV/Marriot is different) the management company only does RCI? I think I can rent the HGVC if I do homeweek, but otherwise not, and I don't exactly have a home week with Wyndham, just a UDI at a specific resort.
 
ThirdHome is an independent exchange system that allows you to establish an account based on an ownership somewhere in a timeshare that they will take deposits on. Once you've established an account, you book a week at your resort in a desirable season and deposit in ThirdHome in exchange for "keys", which are what they call the currency they use for exchanges. The exchange fees are on the high side, but get you access to some rather nice vacation homes and higher end TS/fractionals. There are some systems they do work with; in Marriott it's the Ritz Carlton and St Regis levels that are directly affiliated.

I mostly use my HGVC ownership (home week only as that's rentable) and WorldMark (also rentable) as they give me the most efficient return (number of keys per MF $). I have used them with some Vistana weeks as well, but the return isn't as good. Depending on what you own in HGVC and Wyndham you might be able to do fairly well; with Wyndham you have to be aware of the limitations on guest certificate usage, etc., of course.

When someone books the week you deposited, ThirdHome contacts you and you have to set up a guest certificate for the other member that booked your week. It's all fairly simple.

If you're interested, PM me and I can share my point of contact with them to discuss it with you. They would give me a referral credit, which is always nice; I think they give you one or two keys for setting up an account and making a deposit as well. Happy to answer any other questions you might have about them, too.
 
ThirdHome is an independent exchange system that allows you to establish an account based on an ownership somewhere in a timeshare that they will take deposits on. Once you've established an account, you book a week at your resort in a desirable season and deposit in ThirdHome in exchange for "keys", which are what they call the currency they use for exchanges. The exchange fees are on the high side, but get you access to some rather nice vacation homes and higher end TS/fractionals. There are some systems they do work with; in Marriott it's the Ritz Carlton and St Regis levels that are directly affiliated.

I mostly use my HGVC ownership (home week only as that's rentable) and WorldMark (also rentable) as they give me the most efficient return (number of keys per MF $). I have used them with some Vistana weeks as well, but the return isn't as good. Depending on what you own in HGVC and Wyndham you might be able to do fairly well; with Wyndham you have to be aware of the limitations on guest certificate usage, etc., of course.

When someone books the week you deposited, ThirdHome contacts you and you have to set up a guest certificate for the other member that booked your week. It's all fairly simple.

If you're interested, PM me and I can share my point of contact with them to discuss it with you. They would give me a referral credit, which is always nice; I think they give you one or two keys for setting up an account and making a deposit as well. Happy to answer any other questions you might have about them, too.
Does it cost money to join Third Homa? If so how much? Is there a way to see what's in their database and how many keys before establishing an account?
 
Does it cost money to join Third Homa? If so how much? Is there a way to see what's in their database and how many keys before establishing an account?
I think they quote an initiation fee of $2,995 but waive it if you make a deposit when you set up the account. Everyone I know that has had an account set up has had it waived.

The only way to see what they have for current availability is to find someone with an active account that can sign in and show you. It's hard to tell what you would get for a specific resort unless there is one in there from it with availability, but generally it is about one key per bedroom with various multipliers for the seasonal demand they estimate for the region.
 
Marriott is about the only big system that I don't own.

I own Wndham, Hilton, Holiday Inn, and Worldmark I purchased all but the Worldmark in the 1990s before big hotel systems and before points. All of these eventually got bought by these systems. I have a RTU on Tradewinds, which I have been a member of since 2003 (Wow its been 20 years already).

Wyndham is the only one that I made a developer purchase from to move all of the previously acquired units into Developer status and obtain VIP Platinum. Can't do what I did anymore, so I good I did it when I could. They have now added higher levels but I have no desire to pay any money to get there.

I purchase another Hilton Resale in late 1990s, but because the agent worked for HGVC the unit was considered developer purchased and that got me Hilton Elite Status.

I purchased a resale unit on auction for $300 that eventually became Holiday Inn and they offer us $100 to convert to points. Done.

I was given a Worldmark 2 years ago, I paid for the transfer fee only of $299.

Only thing I have really spent money acquiring was Tradewinds, which is the sailing timeshare, but that is something I love. However that has run its course, and I might not be renewing that next year when my membership expires.
 
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MVC (Phuket and Surf Club) and two penthouse weeks at Grand Solmar Land's End. Went to Cabo on a lark and fell in love.
 
Dvc for disney and mvc for the variety of properties
 
We bought our first timeshare in 1980 at the Freeport Resort and Club- 2 weeks. We then bought a week at a resort in Kissimmee but I can't remember the name. In 1983 we bought 1 week from the original developer at Harbour Pointe in Hilton Head. We sold The Freeport Resort and Club in 1986 because we had been assaulted in the unit- another owner wanted it. We gave the Kissimmee Resort to Make a Wish Foundation. Fast Forward Marriott took over Harbour Pointe in 1986( I think). We ended up selling that week when Grande Ocean was built. We added another platinum week at Barony Beach. In 1991 we bought our first 2 weeks at the Royal Resorts in Cancun. As my job changed we sold Grand Ocean and I made a wonderful deal with Marriott for them to take back my Barony Beach club and apply the money to a 3 bedroom platinum week at Surfwatch. In 1999 we bought 3 platinum weeks at the Marriott Aruba Ocean Club. As we fast forward to 2023 we currently own Surfwatch (1 week), Marriott Aruba Ocean Club(3 weeks), Vacation Club Points---we are Chairmen's Club, 2 weeks at the Royal Sands and 1 week at the Royal Haciendas. The Royal Resorts just sold their properties to the Holiday Inn Club Vacations. I'm not sure how this will shake out so I may try to sell some of them.
 
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We bought our first timeshare in 1980 at the Freeport Resort and Club- 2 weeks. We then bought a week a week at a resort in Kissimmee but I can't remember the name. In 1983 we bought 1 week from the original developer at Harbour Pointe in Hilton Head. We sold The Freeport Resort and Club in 1986 because we had been assaulted in the unit- another owner wanted it. We gave the Kissimmee Resort to Make a Wish Foundation. Fast Forward Marriott took over Harbour Pointe in 1986( I think). We ended up selling that week when Grande Ocean was built. We added another platinum week at Barony Beach. In 1991 we bought our first 2 weeks at the Royal Resorts in Cancun. As my job changed we sold Grand Ocean and I made a wonderful deal with Marriott for them to take back my Barony Beach club and apply the money to a 3 bedroom platinum week at Surfwatch. In 1999 we bought 3 platinum weeks at the Marriott Aruba Ocean Club. As we fast forward to 2023 we currently own Surfwatch (1 week), Marriott Aruba Ocean Club(3 weeks), Vacation Club Points---we are Chairmen's Club, 2 weeks at the Royal Sands and 1 week at the Royal Haciendas. The Royal Resorts just sold their properties to the Holiday Inn Club Vacations. I'm not sure how this will shake out so I may try to sell some of them.
Royal sold to Holiday Inn? We’ve rented Royals in the past. I always thought they had the best deal going. Royal was a really classy organization . I hope HI doesn’t ruin it.
 
Royal sold to Holiday Inn? We’ve rented Royals in the past. I always thought they had the best deal going. Royal was a really classy organization . I hope HI doesn’t ruin it.
I really hope they don’t either. It was announced in May- total surprise. We own fixed weeks in a fixed villa so no changes. There seem to be changes for points owners. I have no desire to go to HI properties.
 
We are chairman benefit level with Marriott and also have a Vacation Villages in the Berkshire week that has a low maintenance fee. I have been using Third Home this past year. I have traded 1 week of Vacation Villages and 1 Marriott week to get 2 weeks of upscale vacation homes. Third Home also gives us a discounted bonus week at another of their homes as soon as they have my deposited week taken. We also get 5 Bonvoy nights a year through credit cards and with Titanium bonuses accumulate a fair amount of Bonvoy Points throughout the year. I just paid about $13000 in total maintenance fees to boost Bonvoy by 6X on the credit card. We also bought another 300,000 Bonvoy Points at their special bonus offer on the Bonvoy credit card, bringing the cost per Bonvoy Point down to about 9/10ths of a penny each. We book Marriott vacation club time in under 60 days to get the 30% discount to stretch our usage, about half the time. Makes our 15000 Vacation Club points yield the equivalent of closer to 18000. We did a Ritz Carlton Yacht cruise in January and used cash for our best trip ever ! Asked and received a cabin upgrade once on board , much to our astonishment since it was far from full in one of their first voyages ! Seriously doubt that will happen ever again . Right place at the right time . Semi retired, so we can travel 6 to 8 weeks a year as a couple / with extended family and friends . Have tried about 45 of the Marriotts / Ritz Residences at least once in 28 years as an Owner. Next year, we strung 4 weeks over 7 locations around a 2 week Asia cruise with Regent. (4 Marriott Bonvoy Hotels, Istanbul/Koh Samui/Tokyo/Arizona , 4 Marriott Vacation Clubs - Bali /Bangkok / Las Vegas / Scottsdale) Gonna need a house sitter LOL
I also offer the Third Home member that reserves my week, an extra night. This is an opportunity to defray my maintenance fee and $295 Third Home Annual dues. For example, a 1 night prime booking cost me 425 Destination Points and I asked $475 for the night, which is far less than Marriott's retail price at a time the resort is close to selling out. I would 'mark up' a weekend night less, but I find the weekday nights to be a bit of a bargain.
 
I was talking with someone today (a Marriott owner of both weeks and points) and they mentioned that they also own Hilton points/weeks. They said it's very common to own through multiple vacation companies and I was curious if that's true.

Do you own through more than one company? If so, why did you decide on more than one and how long have you owned both? What other companies do you own? Is it as common as this other owner states?

Just curious
We own Marriott, Vistana, Wyndham VIP, Westgate and RCI points.
 
We have owned 6 Marriotts, 2 DVC and 1 independent on Hilton Head. We are down to Maui Ocean Club, Waiohai and the independent. We are going to add 2 more Waiohai resale weeks and 1 Ko Olina resale week. We also like to cruise and take land based trips where we are at a given hotel for no more than 5 days. Most of these locations do not have timeshare options.

The Hilton Head property cost us $1.00 and the seller paid this year’s maintenance fee and owner transfer fee. I ambled over to the bargain marketplace here on TUG last year. (Someone on this board referenced the bargain section.) I researched the property, asked questions on another board and we decided to take the plunge. Our season goes from April through the first week of June. We booked the June week. We were a little nervous because the fee to sell or transfer the property is pretty hefty. We ended up not being able to use it this year so we rented it for $1500! For an “off brand” timeshare we thought that was pretty good.
How did you rent it? Did you use Redweek?
 
We are chairman benefit level with Marriott and also have a Vacation Villages in the Berkshire week that has a low maintenance fee. I have been using Third Home this past year. I have traded 1 week of Vacation Villages and 1 Marriott week to get 2 weeks of upscale vacation homes. Third Home also gives us a discounted bonus week at another of their homes as soon as they have my deposited week taken. We also get 5 Bonvoy nights a year through credit cards and with Titanium bonuses accumulate a fair amount of Bonvoy Points throughout the year. I just paid about $13000 in total maintenance fees to boost Bonvoy by 6X on the credit card. We also bought another 300,000 Bonvoy Points at their special bonus offer on the Bonvoy credit card, bringing the cost per Bonvoy Point down to about 9/10ths of a penny each. We book Marriott vacation club time in under 60 days to get the 30% discount to stretch our usage, about half the time. Makes our 15000 Vacation Club points yield the equivalent of closer to 18000. We did a Ritz Carlton Yacht cruise in January and used cash for our best trip ever ! Asked and received a cabin upgrade once on board , much to our astonishment since it was far from full in one of their first voyages ! Seriously doubt that will happen ever again . Right place at the right time . Semi retired, so we can travel 6 to 8 weeks a year as a couple / with extended family and friends . Have tried about 45 of the Marriotts / Ritz Residences at least once in 28 years as an Owner. Next year, we strung 4 weeks over 7 locations around a 2 week Asia cruise with Regent. (4 Marriott Bonvoy Hotels, Istanbul/Koh Samui/Tokyo/Arizona , 4 Marriott Vacation Clubs - Bali /Bangkok / Las Vegas / Scottsdale) Gonna need a house sitter LOL
Im looking into planning an epic trip to Asia as well, using Bonvoy, MVC, and cash. Have to look into what our DRI/HVC gets us. It's at least 2 yrs off, so we have time. Yes, the house is another consideration being gone that long 😁
 
Im looking into planning an epic trip to Asia as well, using Bonvoy, MVC, and cash. Have to look into what our DRI/HVC gets us. It's at least 2 yrs off, so we have time. Yes, the house is another consideration being gone that long 😁
That sounds amazing ! Regent Seven Seas has an in with the airlines, so we saved a lot of money on Business Class Air. We paid a substantial up charge for layovers in 4 cities, but still ended up saving a lot . We did it in a way that we just have 1 long flight at a time. We didn’t want any 20 hour travel days.
 
I started out with a Disney Beach Club Villas timeshare, but as my kids grew they started liking other theme parks and didn't need to stay on site anymore. Before selling Disney, I bought Sheraton Desert Oasis and I have never stayed there, I always lock-off and use 2 weeks in Interval enjoying "Vistana preference".

Preference is quite powerful in Interval, which in part was responsible for me buying Marriott's Grand Chateau. Again, I have never stayed there, I always lock-off and use 2 weeks in Interval enjoying "Marriott preference".

Buying some points-based contracts were next, recently purchasing HGVC Paradise (to use well-priced points) for Big Island, Waikiki and NYC. WorldMark is my most recent purchase, as they had some West Coast destinations I wanted access to as well as being a great Interval trader when needed.

Location is everything, but you don't always need to own where you want to go. There are other strategies.
Hi. I don't know much about point systems, I just own deeded weeks. Sounds like HGV Paradise has a good point value for HI and NYC? What places in NYC and HI can you get using your Hilton points? How many points is your Hilton worth and how many do you need for HI and NYC? I always heard that MF for points are expensive, how much are your MF? Thank you.
 
Hi. I don't know much about point systems, I just own deeded weeks. Sounds like HGV Paradise has a good point value for HI and NYC? What places in NYC and HI can you get using your Hilton points? How many points is your Hilton worth and how many do you need for HI and NYC? I always heard that MF for points are expensive, how much are your MF? Thank you.
Take a look at the HGVC forum in the threads pinned at the top. People have been posting their current maintenance fees so you can get an idea of what the different properties pay. You are paying for a specific unit size, resort and season, so they will have different points available with the platinum weeks having the largest number of points (and larger units being worth more than smaller). There are units with lower MF than mine (which was $1,339.43 this year).

As for prices of NYC or anywhere, it is again based on the unit size, season and even the day of week. So I can't really tell you how much it costs without you looking at your dates on a table. There are also sales on from time to time, so you can sometimes snag 30-40% the points on certain locations (including some in NYC).
 
Take a look at the HGVC forum in the threads pinned at the top. People have been posting their current maintenance fees so you can get an idea of what the different properties pay. You are paying for a specific unit size, resort and season, so they will have different points available with the platinum weeks having the largest number of points (and larger units being worth more than smaller). There are units with lower MF than mine (which was $1,339.43 this year).

As for prices of NYC or anywhere, it is again based on the unit size, season and even the day of week. So I can't really tell you how much it costs without you looking at your dates on a table. There are also sales on from time to time, so you can sometimes snag 30-40% the points on certain locations (including some in NYC).
Thank you:)
 
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