Sick to my stomach!!! Feel taken!

[presley]

The hgvc people are good at scaring you so steer clear.

I just want to clarify that it is only the sales department who lies about stuff and acts rudely.

Once you are a member, any call you make will be answered by someone who is cheerful and helpful. They couldn't care less if you bought from the sales department or paid $1. to get your membership. They treat everyone exactly the same.

Same at the resorts when you vacation. Everyone will be very kind and very helpful who works at the resorts. There will be a "concierge" desk that is designed to get you to go to a sales presentation. I haven't had a pushy experience, when I say no, they accept it.

 

[Ron98GT]

Thanks...I'm going to go look ASAP. We're still on vacation!

Buying resale has all the same access as buying direct from Hilton?? Does it really matter what size unit I buy? I just want as many points as I can get, right?

What is the name of the HGVC TS that you purchased?

What date & time did you purchase the TS?

What state is the TS in?

What state did you purchase the TS in?

Time Shares, which includes the sales and rescission of, is regulated by the state and state law (statutes) within which that TS is located, so the rescission period varies greatly.

As previously stated follow the rescission instructions to the letter. Do not wait until you get home, do not put it off till later, do it now. If your are staying at a Hilton property, there should be a business center there, use it as needed. Mail the rescission to the address as specified in the rescission instructions, using the regular United States Postal Service, Certified Mail, Return Receipt Requested. Today is Saturday, so post offices are open. I don't know what state you are currently in, but here in Las Vegas, NV, we have full service remote/satellite US PO locations scattered thru-out the valley, many in gas stations.

Good Luck

 

[Poolvixon]

I do have 10 days so I'm well within the time period to rescind. I'll be back in NY tomorrow and we have a post office in the mall that's open.

Thank you everyone for all your help!

 

[bentlew]

Welcome, you are not alone

I originally owned two timeshares, Vistana (Starwood) and Powahatan, bought from developer. After joining Tug, I sold my Powahatan and used those proceeds to buy 7,000 annual points resale at the Flamingo. I love HGVC and Hilton, with the use of the Hilton credit card, I have been Diamond for years. Between the many Hotel points that I earn and the HGVC system, I am able to get about 4 weeks of lodging covered per year, which includes gifts of Honeymoons to family members.

Hilton and Disney are good premier systems, where you are treated with respect and have excellent vacation opportunities. This is not the same for Starwood, even though we had owned since the early 80's and upgraded to the Starwood system, we never received good rooms or service. Since the timeshare had no resale value, we donated the timeshare to Charity.

You have bought into a Great system and will enjoy many years of vacations.

 

[Wonka]

It's hard to help

Hilton Lemonade - It's too bad you didn't learn about TUG earlier and how to avoid the high costs of your timeshare. As others have said, learn how best to get your value in usage here on TUG. There are so many saavy, smart folks here to help you (excluding me...I've lost touch).

In "the olden days of TUG", I often met folks after their initial purchases. I would suggest they read TUG and reconsider their purchase before leaving the resort indicating they could purchase the timeshare at a much lower price with a little research. Most often, the reaction was skepticism and disbelief and I don't think I changed many minds at the resorts and it's often too late when they return home. I gave up. It just didn't seem worth the effort and the looks of disdain from those I was trying to help. People want to believe the salesman. It's that simple.

 

[falmouth3]

It just didn't seem worth the effort and the looks of disdain from those I was trying to help. People want to believe the salesman. It's that simple.

You're right. How many people come here and ask if they got a good deal. When they are told to rescind, they argue and tell us they really did get a great deal.

Lemonade has the right mindset and is going to have wonderful vacations.

 

[travelplus]

Yee, $34,000 for 3 weeks annually in a 1bdr in Hilton resorts -- money is gone; just look at the value you are getting from your yearly MFs.

If you owned a vacation house, how many weeks a year would you be there? You have a limited number of vacation days as you have to work. So, MAX is 3 weeks of vacations? RIGHT?

Your Hilton units are, no doubt, VERY NICE ... kept clean and updated. It is a place where you and the family can sleep and play -- without ANY maintenance work to be done. You don't like a resort, choose every year to go to another resort. Need a 1 bdr this year or a 3 bdr next, PLAN and you will have those size units. Much better than owning a fixed vacation home.

Your feelings today are that you were scammed ... you should spend more time watching info-commericals. On TV, it is hard to figure out the junk plastic or tissue paper used to make those products. You stayed and slept in a Hilton unit when you brought your first set of points; you had been a member for 6+ months, when you added on MORE POINTS.

So start learn HOW TO USE this Hilton points - planning vacations. Including other elements of your family ... right now, I trying to figure out, SHOULD I take my 89 yo aunt to WDW for the first time in her life? Would be a PRICELESS vacation for her to meet Mickey and Minnie ...

Surely with 40K Bonus points you have A LOT OF PLANNING to do - 40K plus 7K (2015) +7K (2016) ... 54K --- HOW many weeks of vacations for your family?
So, take a very deep breath, get out the Hilton picture book and move forward to enjoying the rest of your life ...... by planning great vacations your KIDS will tell their KIDS ... that you took them on when they were a little tykes. And be the family who your kid's friends say to you, "Wish my parents took us to those great places!" or "Can I be YOUR kid? You do such neat stuff!".

Linda what you said is spot on. We own 3 weeks(one Marriott that we inherited from my Grandparents, one Scottsdale and one at the Ridge in Tahoe all 2 bedrooms high season) we did not pay 30,000 for it. In fact with all Maintanance Fees its around 3k per year and with the RCI/II Memberships and exchange fees figure more but I got a special with RCI for 199 for 3 years so I took advantage of that.

Last year I split our weeks and got us a 2 bedroom for 2 weeks at the Lawrence Welk Resort. Our Studio and 1 bedroom traded for 2 bedrooms which is the only unit size the LW has.

This year I split the weeks again and got one week at the Grand Pacific Resort in Carlsbad, one week at the Hilton Mar Brisa in Carlsbad and anther one at the Welk all in 2 bedrooms in January. Yes its off-season but we are trying to max our weeks. With the leftover TPUs I paid to combine it as it was worth doing so to get the extra Welk Week that we were not planning on.
With our Ridge week we banked the Marriott Week and will most likely again piggyback off the Marriott week and either use it at The Ridge or perhaps the Tahoe Marriott or Hyatt properties. We find that piggybacking our weeks really works well.

I try to find the same resort and call in and have them make a Do Not Move comment so we can stay in the same unit or in our case this year in Carlsbad a resort that is next to each other and the Welk is a 20 minute drive away. Not only are we maximizing our weeks we're saving on gas having to drive up and down the state to each resort.

I would NEVER buy from a developer since it seems like most of the fees go to marketing. I do however like going to the Timeshare Presentations to learn about the program and get the gifts. If I'm so inclined I'll go to the resale market and buy there.

We are happy campers especially since in the 90s we had timeshares and they were not working and I did not know the system like I did today. Heck we would be spending more at hotels with smaller rooms and no kitchens. We have a Costco Membership and will use it in Carlsbad to get supplies.

My point is you can have a vacation at some nice resort like the Welk or spend $400 a night to stay at a nice hotel but stay for less time.

I saw a 1 bedroom at the Welk during our time going for $200 per night and at the Grand Pacific a 1bedroom was going for around $200 as well. Now for one night at this resort we can get a week for the exchange fees.

I found our week at the Ridge for $900+$200 transfer , Arizona was for $650+$200 transfer and the Marriott we did not pay anything except the MFs .

I could not imagine a life without a timeshare resort. We truly loved the Welk last year so we are going again.

I took a tour of the Hilton Elara in Las Vegas and liked what I saw so it was a no brainer selecting the Hilton Mar Brisa after reading many positive reviews. The Grand Pacific Pallisades is also a nice resort and they offer a free shuttle as well within a 5 mile radius.

All in all great memories are being made. Timesharing forces us to take a vacation and its not an investment but just a lifestyle change. Too many people don't understand this.

 

[travelplus]

I do enjoy it and loved it without any regrets until about 30 minutes ago! I am a firm believer in when both parties are happy its a done deal but 5x the going used price? I dunno just seems out of control.

So how would you feel if you bought a 4K TV for $30,000 at Best Buy and Fry's was selling it for $25,000 the same exact model? My point is its best to shop around and do searches on Ebay, Redweek.com and TUG BBS before putting down lots of money.

Lesson learned for the future.

 

[travelplus]

First, welcome to the club! I paid $40K before I learned about resale. You job now is to learn how to use your points and stretch to get the most usage.

Now to answer your questions below.
Selling Price - you can only get what you paid IF you trade it back in for another purchase, not a wise use, better to keep and buy more resale points.

RCI booking - this is a lie, resale is not restricted from using RCI.

6 Resorts - another lie, you can use resale points at any HGVC or Affiliate.

The key is that all the lies they told you are not in writing in your contract! The only thing you or HGVC is bound by is the written, signed contract, all the verbal promises and threats are not valid!

I agree with you Dave. If people buying on the resale market were blocked from using RCI or Interval they would be out of business or fighting with the resort

 

[letsgosteelers]

all these stories makes me want to hang out near the sales center and wait for people to come out with their balloons and contract bags and hand out TUG business cards next time we are at a resort. :hysterical:

Wonder what they (Hilton) would do??

 

[Ron98GT]

all these stories makes me want to hang out near the sales center and wait for people to come out with their balloons and contract bags and hand out TUG business cards next time we are at a resort. :hysterical:

Wonder what they (Hilton) would do??

We have business cards?

 

[csxjohn]

We have business cards?

I have printed my own on my computer to pass out at timeshares. TUGBrian has given his OK to use the red TUG logo as long as it's not for a commercial undertaking and is used to promote TUG.

I include both TUG web addresses, my user names, and the trading company I use.

I've passed a few out to interested people. As far as I know, none of them have joined as a direct result of the cards. I am giving them the opportunity to educate themselves.

I also wear a TUG T shirt and hat that I purchased from cafe press.