Schools reopening or not

[geekette]

Yes. And even now only about 35% of Americans have a basic college degree. It is still a privilege to go to college.

can you tell me where you found this stat? I am very curious as to which Americans it is counting. Many women of my mother's age did not go to school, it wasn't an option for them because they were female. If the stat is for all US citizens between age 25 and 55, it's quite disconcerting. If it includes younger and older, well, ok, of course.

 

[geekette]

The article says: “She lugged some things to the bus stop and, 4 1/2 hours later, checked into the hotel room she's called home since. At this point, she's spent $700 between the bus ticket and the past few days in her hotel room. But, she said, she wasn't about to give the UI another night.”

Overall, she sounds irresponsible. This is why Covid spreads and we can’t get it under control. People with Covid do not follow the rules. She probably gave it to so many people at school and on the bus.

she did what she was told and was put into a filthy place. SHE was irresponsible?

 

[geekette]

This is why I wish I could hear from the university. Knowing how these things work, my guess is that UI does have an established protocol and some sort of response team/committee that has to be informed of incidents like this and decide how to triage. Given the University was informed later in the evening on a weekend it can be tough to get a call put together by such a response team. There is generally too much bureaucracy in a university setting to make quick decisions.

It looks like part of the dorm she was sent to after diagnosis is set aside for any Covid cases - so being able to have her reassigned within four hours shows there is some sort of plan in place. Whether it is a good one - I don’t know. Plans are usually just as good as the people implementing them and you have a (probably new) RA who probably hasn’t had to deal with a case of Covid before.

If the plan includes feeding the quarantined cold rice, and a daily ration of 3 bottles of water, they do not have a good plan.

 

[geekette]

Wow. Based on an article that you criticized, you’re okay reaching a judgment that she should be expelled? I doubt the article was completely accurate.

And the U needs better PR, not better services? I agree four hours of an initial response is fine in most circumstances, but the dirty rooms? Cold food? Only 3 bottles of water per day for a sick student? C’mon.


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schlep your stuff in the middle of the night would have been scary. women get dead on campuses that way. It was unreasonable to expect she could carry 14 days of whatever. unassisted. no cart, no nothing, on foot.

 

[geekette]

You could go to jail for what she did.

what is the crime?

 

[grupp]

You could go to jail for what she did.

So a young woman goes off to college and gets sick. She gets no support from her school or her family and is totally alone and admitted makes some bad choices. So we blame her for the pandemic, expel her from school and put her in jail?

No wonder our country is in such a mess.

 

[beejaybee]

Who needs Yahoo comments when we have TUG?

 

[Cornell]

So a young woman goes off to college and gets sick. She gets no support from her school or her family and is totally alone and admitted makes some bad choices. So we blame her for the pandemic, expel her from school and put her in jail?

No wonder our country is in such a mess.

Look at the official announcements of all these universities that are shutting down after “opening up” . Most lead with blaming the students.

 

[DannyTS]

Coronavirus: Risk of car crash or seasonal flu greater to children than COVID-19 - expert
Dr Jenny Harries told Sky News host Niall Paterson that failing to bring pupils back to school in September would pose greater damage in the short, medium and long-term to children than the coronavirus. Dr Harries added that no environment was completely risk free but that children faced a similar risk level pre-COVID-19 regarding the potential for road accidents to and from school.

Coronavirus: Risk of road accident or seasonal flu greater to children

THE risk of seasonal flu or a road traffic accident poses a greater threat to children than COVID-19 according to the Deputy Chief Medical Officer for England.

www.express.co.uk

 

[DannyTS]

The video does not seem to work in that article, it can be seen here

 

[Cornell]

My employer just scheduled a 5 hour online "workshop / conference" that I have to attend. I immediately cringed at the email. I cannot imagine doing this day after day after day . This is what our students will be doing all year.

Also, thinking of our youngest students (Ks & 1st graders). Those early years are to foster a love of learning. It's not just about teaching reading and 1+1=2. How can this possibly be accomplished being tethered to a desk all day staring at a computer screen? The foundations of education are not being provided to our youngest.

 

[Cornell]

First day of school for many today and there is a .....GLOBAL ZOOM OUTAGE.

 

[MULTIZ321]

can you tell me where you found this stat? I am very curious as to which Americans it is counting. Many women of my mother's age did not go to school, it wasn't an option for them because they were female. If the stat is for all US citizens between age 25 and 55, it's quite disconcerting. If it includes younger and older, well, ok, of course.

Percentage of the U.S. population with a college degree, by gender 1940-2019.

Percentage of the U.S. population with a college degree by gender 1940-2022 | Statista

In an impressive increase from years past, 39 percent of women in the United States had completed four years or more of college in 2022.

www.statista.com

Richard

 

[cman]

First day of school for many today and there is a .....GLOBAL ZOOM OUTAGE.

LOL. I thought you were joking. My kids can't get on either.

Zoom Status

Welcome to Zoom's home for real-time and historical data on system performance.

status.zoom.us

 

[Cornell]

LOL. I thought you were joking. My kids can't get on either.

Zoom Status

Welcome to Zoom's home for real-time and historical data on system performance.

status.zoom.us

No joke. It's a FARCE! I honestly don't understand why these schools are using Zoom.

 

[TravelTime]

what is the crime?

Spreading Covid. She got on a bus knowing she had Covid and exposed a lot of people to it. It is not clear how many places she went on campus before getting on the bus.

 

[TravelTime]

can you tell me where you found this stat? I am very curious as to which Americans it is counting. Many women of my mother's age did not go to school, it wasn't an option for them because they were female. If the stat is for all US citizens between age 25 and 55, it's quite disconcerting. If it includes younger and older, well, ok, of course.

Percentage of the U.S. population with a college degree by gender 1940-2022 | Statista

In an impressive increase from years past, 39 percent of women in the United States had completed four years or more of college in 2022.

www.statista.com

It looks like it does not vary significantly by age.

Younger Americans are more likely to have attained a four-year degree than older groups. Among Americans between the ages of 25 to 34, 37 percent have at least a bachelor’s degree. Among those 55 and older, just under 30 percent have a four-year degree.

It varies more by ethicity and race.

Wide disparities in educational attainment still exist along racial lines, the Census shows. More than 37 percent of non-Hispanic white Americans have a college degree, while just 23 percent of African-Americans have reached the same level of formal education. Only 16.4 percent of Hispanic Americans have a college degree.

Census: More Americans have college degrees than ever before

Just over a third of American adults have a four-year college degree, the highest level ever measured by the U.S. Census Bureau.In a report released Monday, the Census Bureau said 33.4 percent of A…

thehill.com

 

[TravelTime]

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So a young woman goes off to college and gets sick. She gets no support from her school or her family and is totally alone and admitted makes some bad choices. So we blame her for the pandemic, expel her from school and put her in jail?

No wonder our country is in such a mess.

In other TUG threads, people are saying those who spread Covid should be punished and held responsible. Now on this thread, people are saying differently. Maybe it is different people? Unless these people have schizophrenia. <joke>

 

[needvaca]

No joke. It's a FARCE! I honestly don't understand why these schools are using Zoom.

Yep. It’s our districts first day of school (and many other districts.) an hour in, we got an email from district on “ regional zoom outage”.
Who didn’t see that coming? Nothing could go wrong trying to have the whole country accessing one platform at the same time.

Open the freaking schools!

 

[TravelTime]

So a young woman goes off to college and gets sick. She gets no support from her school or her family and is totally alone and admitted makes some bad choices. So we blame her for the pandemic, expel her from school and put her in jail?

No wonder our country is in such a mess.

BTW, I did not say she “should” go to jail. I said she “could” go to jail. Many people are saying that spreading Covid knowingly is a crime. If people know they have Covid and expose themselves to other people, many would consider this irresponsible regardless of the circumstances.

Frankly, I am more easy going about Covid and I do not personally judge her for not liking the dorm and finding a hotel. I am a prima donna too and I would have done the same exact thing. But if I had done what she did, I am sure many people would tell me I was irresponbile. I doubt I would get much sympathy.

 

[Cornell]

Yep. It’s our districts first day of school (and many other districts.) an hour in, we got an email from district on “ regional zoom outage”.
Who didn’t see that coming? Nothing could go wrong trying to have the whole country accessing one platform at the same time.

Open the freaking schools!

** THERE'S NOTHING TO SEE HERE !!!! **

I know you are in the chicago suburbs . Have you seen the email from the Maine South principal that's going viral?

 

[Ken555]

This is making the rounds today on social media... serious issues in a humorous presentation (especially for you Hamilton fans!). Watch it.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1296603388235452416

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[DannyTS]

First day of school for many today and there is a .....GLOBAL ZOOM OUTAGE.

which means schools AND business are disrupted at the same time

 

[Cornell]

@DannyTS - do businesses use Zoom? Serious question , I don't know.

 

[TravelTime]

@DannyTS - do businesses use Zoom? Serious question , I don't know.

Yes, many businesses use Zoom. Prior to Covid, it was mostly used by businesses. We use Zoom in our business.