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Do you think this strain/demand will eventually force MVW to develop more "resort" (and capital-intensive) properties in the nearer future? Perhaps where there is more demand and less DC presence--thinking Carolina coast, for example. While "capital light" is definitely more attractive to them and makes financial sense on many levels, this point--which I hadn't really thought much about--may force their hands, at least a little. Interesting, as GregT would say....

I think at some point they will either have to start building new resorts or finish out the many that they have that are incomplete. Carolina coast is probably the one location with the biggest demand strain. All of the Hilton Head Island and the Myrtle Beach properties are short in the trust but they probably have some of the highest DC demand to go trade in to them.
 
We love having laundry in the room, but I haven't found any timeshares in San Diego that have in room laundry.

Hi Luanne !

Altho, not in the San Diego proper, the Welk Resorts in Escondito are real timeshares with everything you'd want/expect from a timeshare.

Doug
 
I think at some point they will either have to start building new resorts or finish out the many that they have that are incomplete.

Another location with very high demand is Ko'Olina.
They've talked about adding a 4th building
but so far it's just saber-rattling and additional propaganda
for the sales staff to tout.
 
Hi Luanne !

Altho, not in the San Diego proper, the Welk Resorts in Escondito are real timeshares with everything you'd want/expect from a timeshare.

Doug

We own at San Diego Country Estates, not far from Welk, and they also have washer/dryer in unit. I was speaking of San Diego the city.
 
We own at San Diego Country Estates, not far from Welk, and they also have washer/dryer in unit. I was speaking of San Diego the city.

I realize Welk is not in San Diego, that's why I started with
"Altho, not in the San Diego proper...".

For us a 40-minute drive to SD isn't an issue... especially on vacation. :)

But I'm pleased to know San Diego Country Estates has washer/dryer in the unit.
Are washer/dryer something "new" ?
Awhile back I couldn't decide whether to trade into Welk or SD Country Estates so I called both.
The person who answered the call told me they did not have washer/dryers so we selected Welk.

Doug
 
I realize Welk is not in San Diego, that's why I started with
"Altho, not in the San Diego proper...".

For us a 40-minute drive to SD isn't an issue... especially on vacation. :)

But I'm pleased to know San Diego Country Estates has washer/dryer in the unit.
Are washer/dryer something "new" ?
Awhile back I couldn't decide whether to trade into Welk or SD Country Estates so I called both.
The person who answered the call told me they did not have washer/dryers so we selected Welk.

Doug

Hmmm, good question. We bought at SDCE back in the 1970's. We would go down for the weekends to play golf (green fees were included if you were an owner). Since we were there for such a short time laundry was never as issue, so I don't remember if washer/dryers were in the units at the time. Current reviews do mention washer/dryer in the units.

Since I moved from southern California I've only stayed at SDCE once. My dh and I spent quite a bit of time in San Diego on that trip and decided the drive was too much of a pain. So now when we visit San Diego we stay in timeshares in San Diego itself.
 
As others have noted, this is NOT the Gaslamp (though not too far away) and not a particularly attractive option vs. other Marriott brands located there.

A summer week in "2-Room Connecting Suite" is 4500 points. A summer week in Ko Olina in a 2BR , with full kitchen, washer/dryer is 4575 points. A very big dilution of points IMO.
 

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Not sure if the residents and the local government would approve anymore timeshares in HHI although there is a new one going by Coligny.

That one is a re-development on a site that had an existing hotel/resort. If any future timeshares are allowed on HHI I hope that they're similar projects and not new structures on undeveloped parcels. The island doesn't have too many of those left especially adjacent to the ocean, and one of its major charms is that walking and biking through the protected/public parcels will take you out to the ocean at various points.
 
I think at some point they will either have to start building new resorts or finish out the many that they have that are incomplete. Carolina coast is probably the one location with the biggest demand strain. All of the Hilton Head Island and the Myrtle Beach properties are short in the trust but they probably have some of the highest DC demand to go trade in to them.

Glad to know that others see this in the future as well. Yes, lots of demand, and not much incentive for summer week owners to give up their weeks to the DC.

That one is a re-development on a site that had an existing hotel/resort. If any future timeshares are allowed on HHI I hope that they're similar projects and not new structures on undeveloped parcels. The island doesn't have too many of those left especially adjacent to the ocean, and one of its major charms is that walking and biking through the protected/public parcels will take you out to the ocean at various points.

Are you referring to the new HGVC that is being built? And I think the City Council is now requiring a certain % of land to remain undeveloped or donated to the city with each project. But there are *a lot* of properties that would be prime for redevelopment, IMHO. And there is also quite a bit of land mid and north island that might be a possibility (think SurfWatch location.) I can also see them developing on the bay side of the island if they can't get oceanfront and shuttling people to other resorts on the ocean, or developing an "ocean club" for the non-ocean MVW resorts (like what DVC did.)

As the economy rebounds, it will be interesting to see how development moves forward.
 
Glad to know that others see this in the future as well. Yes, lots of demand, and not much incentive for summer week owners to give up their weeks to the DC.

We were able to get a summer exchange into Hilton Head through Interval. It was at Marriott's Harbour Point at Shelter Cove and we had a fabulous direct waterfront view. Later in the week I thanked the resort manager and asked him how we snagged the best view in the resort, as we were exchanging in with our Marriott Palm Desert week. Wouldn't the owners get the best views? He told us that owners do get the best views, but this was an older Marriott resort and not many owners actually use their weeks anymore. Lots of weeks get deposited to I.I. for exchanges, but I think he said MOST get traded in for Marriott Rewards Points.

At that time, most owners had not joined the Destinations Club because the points allocation for depositing the older Marriott's was rather dismal. My 2-bedroom platinum week at ShadowRidge would be worth about 4,000 DC points, while the 2-bedroom summer week at Hilton Head's Marriott Harbour Point is only 1,900 DC points.

Either way, Marriott should be able to gain access to the older Hilton Head Vacation Club inventory either through internal exchange swaps with Interval (example: trading a trust-owned Ko'Olina week for XXX in Interval), or through their access to any Vacation Club weeks traded for Marriott Rewards Points. Tuggers may say that MRP points are poor value, but apparently LOTS of owners exchange for them anyways.

So, it might be harder to get into Grand Ocean or Barony, but I think getting into the older Hilton Head Marriott's is not so hard if you are using a Marriott deposit and start an ongoing search in II.

--- Rene
 
We were excited to hear Marriott was opening a property in San Diego proper, but when we stopped by last year we learned that the Declan has paid parking.

I just called MVC and confirmed that this is still the case. Self parking is $30 and valet parking is $35 per day. These are the same rates that Declan had, which I understand as the parking structure is owned by someone else.

It is unfortunate, but not totally unexpected, since most if not all urban locations probably have paid parking. That will likely further impact people's decision to visit here. I know my DW was very turned off by that.

Mike
 
We were excited to hear Marriott was opening a property in San Diego proper, but when we stopped by last year we learned that the Declan has paid parking.

I just called MVC and confirmed that this is still the case. Self parking is $30 and valet parking is $35 per day. These are the same rates that Declan had, which I understand as the parking structure is owned by someone else.

It is unfortunate, but not totally unexpected, since most if not all urban locations probably have paid parking. That will likely further impact people's decision to visit here. I know my DW was very turned off by that.

Mike

Unfortunately most, if not all, cities have paid parking. We paid $20/day (if I remember correctly) at Balboa Park.
 
Interestingly, if you go to the Delcan Suites website, the property remains branded as such and you can continue to book rooms directly through Delcan.
 
Interestingly, if you go to the Delcan Suites website, the property remains branded as such and you can continue to book rooms directly through Delcan.

Perhaps Marriott is still selling the un-renovated rooms as Delcan and the renovated ones as MVCI? I wonder if they are still under some type of contract?
 
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