San Diego Now Available to Book

[mash84121]

Press release this morning that San Diego is now available to book for stays beginning July 1.

http://www.marriottvacationclub.com...lub–Now-in-Historic-Happening-San-Diego.shtml

 

[mash84121]

Points Chart

https://www.marriottvacationclub.co...elpfulTools/resorts/SD/pdfDisplay/2016_SD.pdf

 

[pacheco18]

What property was this before
Are there lock offs
Is there a link to the property description

 

[Lv2Trvl]

What property was this before
Are there lock offs
Is there a link to the property description

The email just came through from MVC. We have been waiting for the announcement. Son and family live there so we will be booking. It was the Declan.

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[SueDonJ]

What property was this before
Are there lock offs
Is there a link to the property description

It was formerly called "Declan Suites" - lots of info starting with Post #25 in this thread: 70 new resorts

Here's the marriottvacationclub.com resort page. Based on the floorplans and pictures there are no lock-offs (which would be irrelevant anyway because none of these will be sold as Weeks.)

 

[Pompey Family]

I really don't like the direction MVCI are going. This new property is nothing more than a hotel full of suites, it's not a vacation club in the traditional sense and has no value for us as a family with two young children.

Yes I'm sure there are those who would benefit from a few nights stay with DC points but that's what a Marriott hotel is for surely? There's no kitchen, no layout like a traditional MVCI villa. I know plenty of people who would state that a kitchen is of no use to them but what about those who do require one? If you don't want to use the kitchen, fine, but at least it's there if you do want to and it's there for those who do need one.

I have not been convinced to convert my weeks to DC points and with each new announcement it serves only to reinforce this.

 

[SueDonJ]

I really don't like the direction MVCI are going. This new property is nothing more than a hotel full of suites, it's not a vacation club in the traditional sense and has no value for us as a family with two young children.

Yes I'm sure there are those who would benefit from a few nights stay with DC points but that's what a Marriott hotel is for surely? There's no kitchen, no layout like a traditional MVCI villa. I know plenty of people who would state that a kitchen is of no use to them but what about those who do require one? If you don't want to use the kitchen, fine, but at least it's there if you do want to and it's there for those who do need one.

I have not been convinced to convert my weeks to DC points and with each new announcement it serves only to reinforce this.

I like this direction despite preferring the traditional model with a kitchen, a living area and two bedrooms. It opens up the market to younger professionals before they start adding children to their lives, and as MVC owners age these suites allow for empty-nesters to travel in a different way. Variety is a good thing. I still want them to explore new traditional resorts but only if the cost doesn't prove to be prohibitive the way it was when they were developing the DC. At the time we only needed to look at Crystal Shores to realize that the model couldn't be sustained.

 

[vacationhopeful]

The Shell Vacation resort, Inn at the Park, has a full kitchen minus an OVEN ... 2 burner cook top plus microwave. Refrigerator and dishwasher. Has studio units with the same kitchen along with 1bdr units and 2bdr units ... all with 1 bathroom.

It is 1.5 mile north of your new resort ... but the Shell property has NO SWIMMING pool. Just a rooftop deck ... where I can see the ocean. And some units have those tiny 3 foot deep by 5 foot long balconies.

Shell is still an II exchange for trading .. or maybe a Shell owner will do a private exchange trade.

And most Wyndham owners really like the "Urban Resorts" offered to them. I have stay at the Wyndham Midtown 45 (NYC) .. really nice with another no oven kitchen ... and MORE points than the standard vacation timeshare resort.

Options .. it is all about options .. some I like AND some I really don't like.

 

[Clark]

Anyone able to find the season calendar for this?

 

[SueDonJ]

Anyone able to find the season calendar for this?

There's no season calendar because the property won't ever be sold as Weeks; eventually all intervals will be conveyed to the DC Trust.

The DC Points chart is linked in mash84121's Post #2 above.

 

[Harry]

I like this direction despite preferring the traditional model with a kitchen, a living area and two bedrooms. It opens up the market to younger professionals before they start adding children to their lives, and as MVC owners age these suites allow for empty-nesters to travel in a different way. Variety is a good thing. I still want them to explore new traditional resorts but only if the cost doesn't prove to be prohibitive the way it was when they were developing the DC. At the time we only needed to look at Crystal Shores to realize that the model couldn't be sustained.

I think I agree. For those of us who know San Diago, A Street is not the best location. However we love the Gaslamp District and Declan is very close. Would I stay more than 3 to 4 days, absolutely not. Shell resorts in the area would be my preference both the new one near Balboa Park and the one in the Gaslamp area.
I would be interested in San Diago Tuggers' thoughts.

Harry

 

[JonP]

I have not been convinced to convert my weeks to DC points and with each new announcement it serves only to reinforce this.

I couldn't agree more.

 

[Cruiser Too]

I couldn't agree more.

Count me in too !

A "week" is 7-days long and that's what we expect at timeshare vacations.
I detest, with a purple passion, all of the "points" systems (except RCI's "points").

"They" (the corporate money people) "tinkers" with the number of "points required at a given resort, during a given period.
And the "tinkering" benefits the corporations, not the vacation clubs "owners".

Friends annually book a multi family vacation at a resort during Easter.
It's their tradition.
One day they received a call from a sales rep inquiring if they were planning the same vacation the following year.
Upon hearing in the affirmative, he advised that the number of "points" will be increased but "luckily" they can buy more "points" now to ensure next year's vacation.
Talk about a slap-in-the-face to loyal timeshare owners !!!

 

[cp73]

It looks just like a hotel room suite. I dont even see a mini frig or a microwave. Looks like they dont want you eating anything in the room.

More points for Marriott to sell and more points fighting for the better resorts. I think these type of resorts just dilutes the value of points.

 

[buzglyd]

I think I agree. For those of us who know San Diago, A Street is not the best location. However we love the Gaslamp District and Declan is very close. Would I stay more than 3 to 4 days, absolutely not. Shell resorts in the area would be my preference both the new one near Balboa Park and the one in the Gaslamp area.
I would be interested in San Diago Tuggers' thoughts.

Harry

A street is a bit North of the Gaslamp but you're closer to Little Italy which is the hottest place in town right now.

Gaslamp Plaza Suites trades in II as well as RCI so getting here shouldn't be difficult if you don't have Marriott points.

 

[Old Hickory]

It looks just like a hotel room suite. I dont even see a mini frig or a microwave. Looks like they dont want you eating anything in the room.

Rooms look identical to the Marriott Suites hotel in Midtown Atlanta.

 

[Cruiser Too]

It looks just like a hotel room suite. I dont even see a mini frig or a microwave. Looks like they dont want you eating anything in the room.

It's basically a hotel as compared to a timeshare.

More points for Marriott to sell and more points fighting for the better resorts. I think these type of resorts just dilutes the value of points.

Amen !!!!

 

[amycurl]

I would be very disappointed if I traded in here. I would expect *at least* a mini-kitchen of some kind--more like Custom House.

Honestly, I would take a Residence Inn or Springhill Suites over this MVW "resort" any day.

 

[Cruiser Too]

I would be very disappointed if I traded in here. I would expect *at least* a mini-kitchen of some kind--more like Custom House.

Honestly, I would take a Residence Inn or Springhill Suites over this MVW "resort" any day.

I second that !!!
And... Residence Inn includes breakfast and cheaper dollar-wise too
compared to using "points" or your deposit at II.

Dunno, if Springhill Suites includes breakfast but I'd stay here too.

 

[dioxide45]

Now that they have these city locations out of the way, they can go back to their roots and create great resorts in resort areas. Give us Cancun, Barbados and Bahamas!

 

[JIMinNC]

Now that they have these city locations out of the way, they can go back to their roots and create great resorts in resort areas. Give us Cancun, Barbados and Bahamas!

If these locations do well, I could see them adding city locations in San Francisco, Honolulu, Chicago, Nashville, and New Orleans for sure. I could also see maybe places like Los Angeles, Seattle, Philadelphia, Memphis, or even Atlanta at some point. I think they still have a lot of room to run with this concept, if it's well received. The sales centers in these urban locations will also bring in a new type of timeshare customer - travelers without kids - so I think they will need more of these types of locations to serve/satisfy that new demographic.

 

[Pompey Family]

If these locations do well, I could see them adding city locations in San Francisco, Honolulu, Chicago, Nashville, and New Orleans for sure. I could also see maybe places like Los Angeles, Seattle, Philadelphia, Memphis, or even Atlanta at some point. I think they still have a lot of room to run with this concept, if it's well received. The sales centers in these urban locations will also bring in a new type of timeshare customer - travelers without kids - so I think they will need more of these types of locations to serve/satisfy that new demographic.

I would argue that the Marriott portfolio already serves such areas well. Why not allow MVCI owners to trade their points for stays at hotels in these areas if that is what the particular demographic want? If you have no interest in extra rooms for the kids, a kitchen, a pool etc then why not stay in a hotel? MVCI can then concentrate on ploughing their resources into new 'proper' resorts.

 

[Cruiser Too]

....... The sales centers in these urban locations will also bring in a new type of timeshare customer - travelers without kids - so I think they will need more of these types of locations to serve/satisfy that new demographic.

I fit very comfortable into the "travelers without kids" demographic.

Truth be told.... We (wife and I) ONLY want REAL timeshares, not hotels.

 

[rthib]

I have not been convinced to convert my weeks to DC points and with each new announcement it serves only to reinforce this.

The flexibility of weeks and points is great now that the kids are moving out.
The DC program is not about weeks at one place.
For me I was able to put together two weeks in Hawaii and do island hoping with the a mix of points and weeks.

For a few nights stay, I don't want a kitchen.
I can't imagine spending a week in San Diego, but being able to add a few nights on top of a stay at NCV or Palm Desert is a great addition.

For me, having an enrolled week is the best of both worlds.
I can do week long tradition stays when I want and I can get some great value on some short stays in places that I want to visit. Plus, I have had great luck getting the dates I want farther in advance with points vs waiting for something to show up in II.

Still can't imagine someone wanting to spend the money for points - but for those of us in the system with multiple weeks - the cheap cost of enrolling back at the beginning was well worth. Free trades, Free Lock off and flexibility so I don't lose days when I only want to stay for 4 nights is awesome.

 

[JIMinNC]

I would argue that the Marriott portfolio already serves such areas well. Why not allow MVCI owners to trade their points for stays at hotels in these areas if that is what the particular demographic want? If you have no interest in extra rooms for the kids, a kitchen, a pool etc then why not stay in a hotel? MVCI can then concentrate on ploughing their resources into new 'proper' resorts.

They already allow this to selected Marriott-managed properties in the US and abroad through the Explorer Collection, but the point requirements per night for these are absurdly high in most cases. By contrast the per night point requirements at the new city Marriott Vacation Club locations are more reasonable. If this point differential reflects the relative economics of acquiring access to the hotel inventory of Marriott International versus buying/building their own in the Vacation Club, I think we're better off with them investing in urban Vacation Club locations rather than relying on the high point exchange requirements into Marriott International's hotels.