MaryH
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Has anyone else noticed the disappearance of other properties?
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RHC Due diligence - How?
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Their "contract" must have run out.MaryH said:
MaryH
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2 Hyde Park is primarily a hotel / apt-hotel. Either the contract ran out or the rate increased I think..
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MaryH said:
Yes, but they added the Affinia Manhattan, so one more in New York. I'm not sure, but I think Prague is new, as is Budapest.
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Lynden Gardens, NYC
Lynden Gardens, NYC is no longer one of the RHC affiliate properties.
The two in NYC are Affinia Dumont and Affinia Manhattan.
Richard
Lynden Gardens, NYC is no longer one of the RHC affiliate properties.
The two in NYC are Affinia Dumont and Affinia Manhattan.
Richard
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Hoc,
Prague is there before but Prague 9 not on the metro is not a great location. I would recommend people pass on that, especially for the points they charge, you can get apt rental or hotels in a much better better locations.
Prague is there before but Prague 9 not on the metro is not a great location. I would recommend people pass on that, especially for the points they charge, you can get apt rental or hotels in a much better better locations.
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New properties? . . . Chile
There is a GREAT property in Puyehue, Chile - an overnight bus ride (or you can go by plane if you are not adventurous) from Santiago. The Chilean freeway is FABULOUS - similar in quality to european or american etc.
It is a SPA in a fabulous contryside surrounding close to a lake. I would 100% recommend it (it would just a little more than your RHC admin fee for a week - so there is no great RHC benefit - as we know!)
Breakfast included - and it is good quality (though obviously after 3-4 days one gets tired of the same stuff!) - and you can fill yourself to the gunnels!
Here are links:
http://www.club.royal-holiday.com/index.php?fuseaction=home.resort&id=130
http://www.chile-hotels.com/puyehueh.htm
If you like going for walks or fishing this is for you!
There is a GREAT property in Puyehue, Chile - an overnight bus ride (or you can go by plane if you are not adventurous) from Santiago. The Chilean freeway is FABULOUS - similar in quality to european or american etc.
It is a SPA in a fabulous contryside surrounding close to a lake. I would 100% recommend it (it would just a little more than your RHC admin fee for a week - so there is no great RHC benefit - as we know!)
Breakfast included - and it is good quality (though obviously after 3-4 days one gets tired of the same stuff!) - and you can fill yourself to the gunnels!
Here are links:
http://www.club.royal-holiday.com/index.php?fuseaction=home.resort&id=130
http://www.chile-hotels.com/puyehueh.htm
If you like going for walks or fishing this is for you!
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JoeMid
This is now listed, its pictures still say Lynden GardensMULTIZ321 said:
AFFINIA GARDENS
In the heart of the stylish Upper East Side sits Affinia Gardens, a quiet and elegant retreat. Within easy walking distance of some of New York’s most exclusive boutiques, art galleries and restaurants, Affinia Gardens is a popular destination for leisure and international travellers. The hotel has the feeling of a private Manhattan residence and private patios are featured in several suites.
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Lynden Gardens, NYC
Joe,
The Lynden Gardens is still listed on their website but when I called and tried to book there, the rep told me it was no longer one of their affiliate properties.
Perhaps given the problems other RHC members have had with administrative issues, it might be useful for another RHC member to verify if the Lynden Gardens has been dropped.
Richard
Joe,
The Lynden Gardens is still listed on their website but when I called and tried to book there, the rep told me it was no longer one of their affiliate properties.
Perhaps given the problems other RHC members have had with administrative issues, it might be useful for another RHC member to verify if the Lynden Gardens has been dropped.
Richard
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Maybe the problem is it changed names to AFFINIA GARDENS. It was totally gone when you posted on 3Mar06 but now it's back with a changed name?MULTIZ321 said:
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Affinia Gardens
Spence,
You're right - the Lynden Gardens is now part of the Affinia collection of hotels
and has a new name Affinia Gardens.
Here's more info on the Affinia Gardens Hotel
from the Affinia website.
So RHC has 3 NYC properties - Affinia Dumont, Affinia Manhattan and Affinia Gardens.
Thanks for the correction.
Richard
Spence,
You're right - the Lynden Gardens is now part of the Affinia collection of hotels
and has a new name Affinia Gardens.
Here's more info on the Affinia Gardens Hotel
from the Affinia website.
So RHC has 3 NYC properties - Affinia Dumont, Affinia Manhattan and Affinia Gardens.
Thanks for the correction.
Richard
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I thought they had several in Puerto Vallarta, including Buenaventura and Hacienda. Now it seems they only have listed Holiday Inn and Los Tules. Unles I am just remembering incorrectly... checked out Los Tules last week and it looks nice and cozy- it gets good reviews too.
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Blondie said:
Los Tules is wonderful. PM me if you want any info and photos. The other resorts in PV that they dropped were dogs.
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MaryH
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I had a couple of issues with 2 Hyde Park last year with a leaky radiator and for them to try to charge me GBP 85-90 for calling an international toll free conference number.. But loss of 1 of 2 London property and the remainder RTU at Allen House up in 2012, it is still a bit of a blow...
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RHC Operating Rules
I found the operating rules for RH on their website. You have to be a member and sign in. Click on the site map followed by operating rules.
It is a PDF file. I can email it to anyone if you PM me.
I found the operating rules for RH on their website. You have to be a member and sign in. Click on the site map followed by operating rules.
It is a PDF file. I can email it to anyone if you PM me.
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MaryH said:
Do you recommend doing this even if you buy from Holiday Group?
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Yes, but they do guarantee a clear title and are farily easy to work with.
well,
I ended up buying two RHC on eBay. One from Holiday Group, which I feel safe after reading that they do hold up their promise, I got 20K for $455. The other 15K for $250 from a 98.5% rating timeshare vendor. I followed the advice given to me here and did as much due dilligence as I can on this second purchse, everything checked out on the phone, and the seller seems straight forward with information, so my only worry is that there are things which he might not even know about now that may come up later, we shall see. I passed on a third auction from an individual after reading this thread and decided if I buy RHC, I should stick with reputable sellers, and only larger contracts. I will try to buy another 20K+ contract if I can pick it up cheap.
Before I bought RHC, I already read how tedius it is to unify it and the troubles RHC has with its administration. So I am allowing myself lots of time for closing and unification. I don't plan on using it until 2007. But like most of you mentioned, RHC seems to have some nice resorts/hotel in cities where timeshares are non-existent, so I am prepared to put up with all the headache, so I can do some travelling in Europe in the future.
By the way, what European RHC resorts do you recommend?
I am open to any cities as I have not travel that much in Europe before, but like to visit England, Italy, France, and Spain first, and then the others later on. This will be part of our around-the-world tour I am planning with my parent and sons, it is a big trip so I want to start doing some homework. I am looking for interesting or historical places to visit, not the beaches for vacationing purpose. (But great shopping is a must!
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Now I know even 60K (if I get another 20k+ contract) is not enough in this case, so I am accumulating 2006 and 2007 points to use in 2007, and If I need more hotel, I will just have to try to get a trade from my other timeshare, or priceline it. I wonder if I can borrow 2008 points?
I ended up buying two RHC on eBay. One from Holiday Group, which I feel safe after reading that they do hold up their promise, I got 20K for $455. The other 15K for $250 from a 98.5% rating timeshare vendor. I followed the advice given to me here and did as much due dilligence as I can on this second purchse, everything checked out on the phone, and the seller seems straight forward with information, so my only worry is that there are things which he might not even know about now that may come up later, we shall see. I passed on a third auction from an individual after reading this thread and decided if I buy RHC, I should stick with reputable sellers, and only larger contracts. I will try to buy another 20K+ contract if I can pick it up cheap.
Before I bought RHC, I already read how tedius it is to unify it and the troubles RHC has with its administration. So I am allowing myself lots of time for closing and unification. I don't plan on using it until 2007. But like most of you mentioned, RHC seems to have some nice resorts/hotel in cities where timeshares are non-existent, so I am prepared to put up with all the headache, so I can do some travelling in Europe in the future.
By the way, what European RHC resorts do you recommend?
I am open to any cities as I have not travel that much in Europe before, but like to visit England, Italy, France, and Spain first, and then the others later on. This will be part of our around-the-world tour I am planning with my parent and sons, it is a big trip so I want to start doing some homework. I am looking for interesting or historical places to visit, not the beaches for vacationing purpose. (But great shopping is a must!
)Now I know even 60K (if I get another 20k+ contract) is not enough in this case, so I am accumulating 2006 and 2007 points to use in 2007, and If I need more hotel, I will just have to try to get a trade from my other timeshare, or priceline it. I wonder if I can borrow 2008 points?
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Borrowing from the Back End
Jill,
Don't forget,
If you're over 50, you can borrow points from the "back-end" of your RTU - to do so you would pay the maintenance fee for that year to bring the points forward to the current year. If you did this, your RTU would be shorteded by one year.
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Jill,
Don't forget,
If you're over 50, you can borrow points from the "back-end" of your RTU - to do so you would pay the maintenance fee for that year to bring the points forward to the current year. If you did this, your RTU would be shorteded by one year.
Richard
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Turning 50
I read RHC rules which state you can accelerate your points if "when you bought you were 50 years old". I wonder if savy secondary market buyers will be able to take advantage of this feature. I bought two older contracts last year and just turned 50.
I read RHC rules which state you can accelerate your points if "when you bought you were 50 years old". I wonder if savy secondary market buyers will be able to take advantage of this feature. I bought two older contracts last year and just turned 50.
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You cannot borrow from 2008, they will try to 'rent' you points at an outrageous rate or even sell you more points.
I would not throw lies into the mix, it's hard enough as it is. I don't know what they require as proof.
I agree with the way danmac reads the over fifty rule but from phone conversations it appears that it may be interpreted as "if you are fifty, you can accelerate"
I would not throw lies into the mix, it's hard enough as it is. I don't know what they require as proof.
I agree with the way danmac reads the over fifty rule but from phone conversations it appears that it may be interpreted as "if you are fifty, you can accelerate"
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Arlene,
Definitely since on at least one contract I purchased from Holiday Group, the info given was incorrect. I checked and there were significant amount of points with one contract I was offering for so went to the max of the range I was willing to pay due to the points figured in. The rep did not know about the chunk of points and tried to change the rules and charge me 2005 M/F and I fought it and did not budge. If I was not as sure of my info and could say I knew about it and made the offer with it figured in, I would have far more trouble.
Holiday Group does not alway verify all the info and sometimes take the owners word and they might not be clear either.
Also, when I look at the listing, you only see # points in contract and expiration year but the number of points that come with it could effect the price/ deal.
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Jill,
What is your total cost? I would guess
Holiday Group 20K = $455 + 395 HG closing + 350 Resort Transfer + $485 M/F + 200 SA?
The 15K = 250+ 350 resort transfer fee + 425 M/F + 170 SA?
With all the hassel for unification, I would go for a higher point value contract since it is a major ****. Looking at the point / M/F chart, I like the 60K total point amount and you can get 2-3 decent weeks out of it.
You also need to check your two contracts when was the last time it was rolled over. If it was rolled over from last year to this year 100%, you can only rollover 20%. For example, with over 100K banked points from my purchased contract, I rolled 60% of mine over last year so I have just a shade over 145K RHC points this year and I need to use up more than 125K.
If you are travelling with 5-6 people, you need more than 60K for Europe since you need more than 1 unit. London only has Allen House now and you can only get it in low season Oct-Apr I believe. With that number of people, I might look into apt rental as well as RHC. Paris would definitely be on my list and I think I would be interested in Madrid or Rome.
My first every trip to Europe many moons ago was London, Edinburgh, Paris, Nice, Venice, Florence and Rome for 3 weeks and it was great Hotel or B&B only and a couple of private rooms in hostels or student residences.
What is your total cost? I would guess
Holiday Group 20K = $455 + 395 HG closing + 350 Resort Transfer + $485 M/F + 200 SA?
The 15K = 250+ 350 resort transfer fee + 425 M/F + 170 SA?
With all the hassel for unification, I would go for a higher point value contract since it is a major ****. Looking at the point / M/F chart, I like the 60K total point amount and you can get 2-3 decent weeks out of it.
You also need to check your two contracts when was the last time it was rolled over. If it was rolled over from last year to this year 100%, you can only rollover 20%. For example, with over 100K banked points from my purchased contract, I rolled 60% of mine over last year so I have just a shade over 145K RHC points this year and I need to use up more than 125K.
If you are travelling with 5-6 people, you need more than 60K for Europe since you need more than 1 unit. London only has Allen House now and you can only get it in low season Oct-Apr I believe. With that number of people, I might look into apt rental as well as RHC. Paris would definitely be on my list and I think I would be interested in Madrid or Rome.
My first every trip to Europe many moons ago was London, Edinburgh, Paris, Nice, Venice, Florence and Rome for 3 weeks and it was great
Hotel or B&B only and a couple of private rooms in hostels or student residences.
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MaryH said:
Mary,
I didn't have to pay SA for both these contracts, they were paid. I was looking for a higher point contract, but couldn't find one with a decent price. The one I did find on eBay I missed because I was travelling in China. I am still looking. I don't mind paying higher price for one bigger contract, but I was unwilling to pay over 5K for a 40k contract.
Like my post in the other forum, I am looking at a week contract as well. What is your thought on week Vs. points in RHC membership? This particular membership is for an ambassador unit in high season, but as I am beggining to grasp, not all week contract are the same. This one, for example, can use in most of Europe, but excludes July, August, Xmas and NY. In New York, it excludes Affini garden and Manhattan. I am interested in this week membership for use in Europe only, but the exclusion of July and August is a draw back because that's when my kids are off from school. The other thing is the MF is 700, which only makes it economical to use in very few cities such as Florence, for example.
Jill
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