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Restaurant Review - Saratoga (SXM), let the diner beware!

Just returned from 11 days in SXM, most of which were wonderful, but I feel I just have to put out information on our one "bummer".

Having had at least one good experience over the past several years at Saratoga, my wife and I opted to go there to celebrate our anniversary this year. BIG MISTAKE!!

Since we are headed to St. Maarten next month for the first time, we will scratch that off our list, but do you or other members have any restaurants that you do recommend? Looking more for casual, bistro style 'steak-frites' places for a group of 4 adults and 4 teenagers... thanks!
 
1. Yes, if I get bad service from ANY sort of service establishment, I will no longer support that establishment, and, should anyone ask, I will be happy to tell them why. That includes doctors, lawyers, Indian chiefs, mechanics, cooks, bagel vendors, hairdressers, sales clerks, and even the wait staff at establishments I normally frequent.

2. That means not telling the customer who returns a bad bottle of wine that it's a chance you take when you buy a bottle or, even worse, that the wine is fine and it's your taste that is inadequate or you just chose the wrong bottle for your dinner.

4. Perhaps, my biggest "justification" here is that I offered up the idea that others might have had different experiences at Saratoga, and I hoped/thought someone would chime in, either to support my experience or to share their more positive one. All I have seen so far is a number of responses, both supportive and contentious which have NOTHING to do with actual experiences at Saratoga.

5. I wonder how this would play out if I indicated that I am a syndicated restaurant reviewer for major publications. Would you say that I was not doing my job properly because I my review may have cost them some business?

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!

Ciao,

Tom

1. I understand that some people will not accept anything less than great customer service, and I too like great customer service. I guess the difference for me is that I will accept great service the majority of the time from the majority of employees. If I have been treated well numerous times (or even once) I will forgive the occasional shortcoming. Some won't forgive even one small problem, but I like to give the business and employee the benefit of assuming this was an aberation rather than the norm. If the behavior is too rude or extreme I obviously would get angry and never forgive. I try to treat people like I like to be treated, with courtesy, respect, and understanding.

I too always try to do my best to take care of my customers, but sometimes I do not do the job they deserve whether it is due to reasons beyond my control or simply a mistake on my part. I will always admit my mistakes, take the blame for things I can't control, and ask for forgiveness. Thankfully most people will understand that occasionally things won't be what they deserve, and they will continue to patronize my business. If the mgr had sincerely apologized you might have never posted your negative response.

2. I apologize for ranting on your review. You obviously have the right to review what you experienced however you want. One thing I would have done differently is to demand to talk to the owner or manager in charge. That employee might have walked to the back, acted like they told the owner that there was an upset customer up front, and walked back out saying he was busy without actually telling the owner anything.. The owner/mgr should know that there was a disatisfied customer . He would then have the opportunity to try and make it up to you. If he did you might have posted a review that said you had a bad experience from a new employee but that the owner was sympathetic and made it up to you. Now you can never be sure the mgr/owner even knew that there was a problem. A new employee isn't going to turn himslef in if he can help it.

4. Sorry I hijacked the purpose of your thread. I guess I am too sensitive to unreasonable expectations and undeserved bad PR from years in the food business. You work so dang hard for so many hours to get slammed for anything that wasn't perfect. Not that we never deserved a bad review, but often times a small thing was turned into give me my meal for free or I will spread bad things about your establishment all over town. I have had people want $75 worth of food free because they found a piece of brown lettuce half the size of a dime in their salad. This of course came after they had finished the salad, their main course, and their dessert.

5. A critic typically picks movies and restaurants that don't appeal to the masses. I usually love a blockbuster movie more than some weird indy movie and I prefer some restaurant chains which are panned critically to some new eclectic dining experience which some critic adores. I think most people expect critics to be brutal since it is maily through shock value that they get people to read their posts (think of Simon Cowell). I think most people take a critic's review with a grain of salt. However the average Joe's opinion carries a huge amount of weight.

I was really not that upset with what you said, so once again I apologize to you. I was mad at the overall attitude from so many here and other places who feel that if you ever have a so so meal, or less than perfect service, that you need to shout it from the rooftop, post it everywhere on the web, and forever refuse to eat there again. It kills me that so many people who work in all sorts of businesses feel that they can expect something that no one (including themselves) can deliver, and that is a perfect product and a perfect experience each and every time someone buys.

Your review might be justified, but whether it is or not there are several people on this site that will now never eat there. That is tough on any business when someone with an ax to grind can post anything they want without having to prove anything bad really occured. Some people tell everyone to stop patronizing a restaurant for little or no reason. In the past people complained to the Better Business Bureau and the business had a chance to answer the complaint and to try and rectify the situation. With the internet anyone can say anything they want whether it is the truth, a half truth, or a total lie.

There are crimes that deserve the death sentence, and there are situations at a restaurant that warrant never eating there again. However jaywalking and a minor service problem at a restaurant both should receive a slap on the wrist, not the harshest possible punishment IMO.
 
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The minute I get the slightest hint from a customer or anyone close to the customer that (s)he is even less than totally pleased I immediately proactively rectify the matter.


I am surprised that your customers still do business with you. You admit that some of your customers are less than pleased which means that you aren't operating a perfect business. I am shocked that one who is as demanding as you does not provide perfect, stellar service. You don't think that there is any reason to do business with anyone who doesn't please you personally 100% of the time. One chance and it is over. Maybe your customers should treat your business like you recommend treating other businesses. I am sure that whatever service you offer is also offered by many other businesses. Since your business is one that is a dime a dozen too, perhaps your customers should spend their money elsewhere because once you don't please them 100% they should never give you another chance. Please post your web site so unsatisfied customers can post their complaints (real or not). Also, please list the name of your business so we can mark it off of our places to patronize when we are in Bellevue Washington. It doesn't matter if anyone here ever had a bad experience personally at your business, all that matters is that mistakes that displeased customers have been posted here on the web whether they are true or not (this time I believe the poster because it was posted by you). The posting of one single complaint is reason enough to mark your business off of our list, forever. No second chances as you so proudly proclaim in numerous posts. I look forward to your post listing your business and detailing the shortcomings in customer service you have acknowledged. Having people not patronize your business solely because of this post is OK because it is exactly what you advocate for other businesses.
 
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I agree with Tombo, having been a waitress throughout high school. Everyone ought to have that experience. You learn a lot about how to deal with people, running a business, and managing time.

I can relate to the OP's negative experience (especially since it was a 'special' occasion) as this has happened to all of us I'm sure, but it may have been an anomaly in that night of the restaurant, especially given they had positive reviews before.

I say the best recourse is to voice the issues with the restaurant directly. IMO, the restaurant should have just waived the cost of the dinner or provided some other type of apology.
 
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Tombo - Best you stay away from restaurants serving Mexican food....way too many bad buritos.
 
4. Perhaps, my biggest "justification" here is that I offered up the idea that others might have had different experiences at Saratoga, and I hoped/thought someone would chime in, either to support my experience or to share their more positive one. All I have seen so far is a number of responses, both supportive and contentious which have NOTHING to do with actual experiences at Saratoga.

5. I wonder how this would play out if I indicated that I am a syndicated restaurant reviewer for major publications. Would you say that I was not doing my job properly because I my review may have cost them some business?

6. Note that I did not start this thread in an effort to gain sympathy for my experience; only to make others aware of what happened. Whether or not this should have bothered us is not the point, it's trying to make sure that it does not happen to someone else.

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!

Ciao,

Tom

Tom, you answered question 4 in your first post, although somewhat obliquely. You mentioned that you had at least one positive experience dining at Saratoga, and that is the reason you decided to go back and celebrate your anniversary. I am sorry that your last experience was such a bad one, but why don't you share the positive things that made you go back?

Now in point 5 you ask how this would have played out if you indicated that you were a syndicated restaurant reviewer for major publications. I don't know of any syndicated restaurant reviewers, but I do read the reviews that Frank Bruni, restaurant critic of my local hometown newspaper (the New York Times), writes. His reviews are a distillation of several meals eaten at a particular restaurant. He will not pan a restaurant unless the food, service is consistently below par. And since you indicated that this was not the case, your syndicated review would not be very ethical, based on only your one bad experience.
 
Been twice

We've been to Saratoga twice in the past two years. The food was some of the best we've had on the island. The service was average for that type of restaurant on St Maarten. We'll go back.
 
I am very grateful that time was taken by the OP to let us know about his experiences. Isn't that one of the things this board is about? We just got back from Tobago and had bad experiences with one of the most expensive restaurants on the island. I won't mention the name here because of the obvious remarks I would get, but I will review it on Trip Advisor. I hope the review of the Saratoga is put there also. I appreciate reading of other's experiences, both good and bad. Often I will still go and make my own decision, but there are other times that I will not eat at specific places due to someone else's experiences. Especially if there are several negative reviews about the same place. If I take the time to write a review (and I review both good and bad), then I consider my time helpful to others.

Often times this board seems to be a place where someone flames someone for writing what they feel. I don't post often, but I have been a member for years and read the boards nearly every day. One of the reasons I don't post is exactly what happened here.
 
There's a big difference between reviews at restaurants near home vs restaurants at a relatively small vacation destination. For those types of destinations, there might be only limited reviews while near home there's much more latitude.

In the case of St. Maarten the island is only 36 sq miles but there are at least 100 restaurants to choose from. If you're on the island for only a week there's no room for error in restaurant selection. One person's bad experience could be substantial in reducing the list of 100 possibilities down to maybe 5 or 6. One bad review speaks volumes in beginning to narrow the list.
 
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