Responsible Exit with Bluegreen

[Manhattanmarsh9]

My father recently passed and I am trying to help my mom with exiting her Bluegreen timeshare. I have talked with them once and she will have to pay around $3000 to get out. She will have to pay and then they send her paperwork to fill out. She sends it back with a death certificate and she will be done with them. Hopefully. Has anyone had any experience with the Responsible Exit? Curious about the paperwork and what it entails. Would like to see the paperwork first but doubtful they will send it without payment. Her and my father have been burned by Bluegreen years ago when they tried to get out of it. They were told they had to buy a bunch of points and then Bluegreen would try to sell it for them. Well, that was almost 10 years ago! They were also duped by a scam and paid a “company” money to sell it but never heard from them again. I just don’t want her to get burned. I need to know if the Responsible Exit is legit. Any advice would be appreciated!

 

[GrayFal]

In your case, considering the circumstances, (condolences) I think responsible exit is the way to go.
The fee represents 18 months of maint fees.

Is her yearly fee about $2000?
This indicates she owns maybe 12,000 - 14,000 points?

And you used this website to get rid of your timeshare

https://www.bluegreenvacations.com/talk-to-bluegreen-vacations-were-here-to-help

And this phone number? ”

Call us today at (844) 757-6932, or fill out the form below and a Customer Care Specialist will contact you shortly”​

If so, you are dealing directly with Bluegreen and as you follow their instructions you will be out of your ownership

 

[GrayFal]

Another thought is - when are her Maintenance Fees due?
Are you able to log into her account and check?
I am wondering if they are demanding her to pre pay her fees and then charge her more on top of this.

I am transferring/selling some points and got this in my email.

“The estoppel provided to Talcott (law firm handling closing/ transfer) will include any outstanding maintenance fees/dues balance. All outstanding fees must be paid prior to or concurrently with the transfer of your ownership. Maintenance fees/dues which have been approved by the Board and may be billed in the next 90 days must also be paid prior to the transfer. Next billing dates can be found online at www.bluegreenowner.com or by contacting Bluegreen Club Services at 1-800-456-2582. You will receive an invoice, but if one is not received, you are still responsible to make payment by the due date.”

 

[Manhattanmarsh9]

In your case, considering the circumstances, (condolences) I think responsible exit is the way to go.
The fee represents 18 months of maint fees.

Is her yearly fee about $2000?
This indicates she owns maybe 12,000 - 14,000 points?

And you used this website to get rid of your timeshare

https://www.bluegreenvacations.com/talk-to-bluegreen-vacations-were-here-to-help

And this phone number? ”

Call us today at (844) 757-6932, or fill out the form below and a Customer Care Specialist will contact you shortly”​

If so, you are dealing directly with Bluegreen and as you follow their instructions you will be out of your ownership.

In your case, considering the circumstances, (condolences) I think responsible exit is the way to go.
The fee represents 18 months of maint fees.

Is her yearly fee about $2000?
This indicates she owns maybe 12,000 - 14,000 points?

And you used this website to get rid of your timeshare

https://www.bluegreenvacations.com/talk-to-bluegreen-vacations-were-here-to-help

And this phone number? ”

Call us today at (844) 757-6932, or fill out the form below and a Customer Care Specialist will contact you shortly”​

If so, you are dealing directly with Bluegreen and as you follow their instructions you will be out of your ownership

She pays about $2400 per year and then Yes, the rest is 18 months of maintenance fees. That is the phone number that I called so it sounds like I am on the right track.
I think this is the way to go, as well. Hoping to start the process with them tomorrow.
Thank you for reassuring me.

 

[Manhattanmarsh9]

Another thought is - when are her Maintenance Fees due?
Are you able to log into her account and check?
I am wondering if they are demanding her to pre pay her fees and then charge her more on top of this.

I am transferring/selling some points and got this in my email.

“The estoppel provided to Talcott (law firm handling closing/ transfer) will include any outstanding maintenance fees/dues balance. All outstanding fees must be paid prior to or concurrently with the transfer of your ownership. Maintenance fees/dues which have been approved by the Board and may be billed in the next 90 days must also be paid prior to the transfer. Next billing dates can be found online at www.bluegreenowner.com or by contacting Bluegreen Club Services at 1-800-456-2582. You will receive an invoice, but if one is not received, you are still responsible to make payment by the due date.”

They told us that she has to pay $1259, her normal twice a year payment, because it is due in less that 90 days plus $1889 In maintenance fees.

 

[GrayFal]

They told us that she has to pay $1259, her normal twice a year payment, because it is due in less that 90 days plus $1889 In maintenance fees.

That’s great.
Well not really, but she will be done.
I am exiting also but have the time to sell my individual contracts - out of 7, Bluegreen has taken back 6 at my asking price and one is going to a buyer.

2 years ago there was NO option for point owners to give back their paid off ownership. I am happy this will work out for your family.

Please come back at the end of the process and let us know how everything went.
It is helpful for people on this forum and others searching for answers/help to see your outcome.

Good Luck.

 

[Manhattanmarsh9]

That’s great.
Well not really, but she will be done.
I am exiting also but have the time to sell my individual contracts - out of 7, Bluegreen has taken back 6 at my asking price and one is going to a buyer.

2 years ago there was NO option for point owners to give back their paid off ownership. I am happy this will work out for your family.

Please come back at the end of the process and let us know how everything went.
It is helpful for people on this forum and others searching for answers/help to see your outcome.

Good Luck.

Thank you so much!

 

[TUGBrian]

very sorry for the loss of your parent. as long as you are dealing directly with bluegreen you should be fine. Responsible exit is simply a website created by ARDA to list resort-run exit programs (and some are more effective than others).

bluegreens has become expensive/selective these days, but it is not a large shock that they are asking you to pay a multiple of annual dues to surrender your ownership back...this seems to be where things are headed in terms of official surrender programs.

you can of course attempt negotiate the amount if you wish, but I would not have any fear that you are going to get scammed or similar assuming you are working directly with blugreen itself and not some 3rd party!

 

[dioxide45]

Isn't another option to try to sell it or give it away and have Bluegreen exercise ROFR on it?

 

[Manhattanmarsh9]

very sorry for the loss of your parent. as long as you are dealing directly with bluegreen you should be fine. Responsible exit is simply a website created by ARDA to list resort-run exit programs (and some are more effective than others).

bluegreens has become expensive/selective these days, but it is not a large shock that they are asking you to pay a multiple of annual dues to surrender your ownership back...this seems to be where things are headed in terms of official surrender programs.

you can of course attempt negotiate the amount if you wish, but I would not have any fear that you are going to get scammed or similar assuming you are working directly with blugreen itself and not some 3rd party!

Thank you! I was able to talk with the same person that I did last week and paid the fees to get the ball rolling on this being over and done for my mom. Had to email them a copy of my father's death certificate and they will email me all of the paperwork to sign and then I will email it back. Hoping that speeds up the process.

 

[Manhattanmarsh9]

Isn't another option to try to sell it or give it away and have Bluegreen exercise ROFR on it?

Those were some options but honestly, I didn't want to deal with anymore and I certainly didn't want my mom to have to deal with all that either. Unfortunately, they never really got their money's worth out of it. Too many times of not being able to book anything where they were going or not staying long enough at one place and told they needed to by more points to stay longer. Just frustrating.

 

[GrayFal]

Those were some options but honestly, I didn't want to deal with anymore and I certainly didn't want my mom to have to deal with all that either.

Agree.

 

[Manhattanmarsh9]

I have received the paperwork from Blue Green, however the Affidavit of Continuous Marriage has be a little stumped. Not sure what Official Records Book I need to look at to get this information. I will most likely have to call them tomorrow. Hopefully, they are willing to help me fill this info out. Any ideas?
Thank you!

 

[dioxide45]

I have received the paperwork from Blue Green, however the Affidavit of Continuous Marriage has be a little stumped. Not sure what Official Records Book I need to look at to get this information. I will most likely have to call them tomorrow. Hopefully, they are willing to help me fill this info out. Any ideas?
Thank you!

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This information should be on your deed. Not the book and page of your deed, but it is reference on the deed, sometimes in the legal information.

 

[GrayFal]

This information should be on your deed. Not the book and page of your deed, but it is reference on the deed, sometimes in the legal information.

I just got closing docs from a recent sale. I will take a look tomorrow to see where/what section it might be from.

 

[Manhattanmarsh9]

I just got closing docs from a recent sale. I will take a look tomorrow to see where/what section it might be from.

I am worried that we will be unable to locate the deed. I have some paperwork but not that. I am afraid my mom may have thrown some things out when she was cleaning out files. Hoping for some help from Blue Green. Fingers crossed.

 

[dioxide45]

I am worried that we will be unable to locate the deed. I have some paperwork but not that. I am afraid my mom may have thrown some things out when she was cleaning out files. Hoping for some help from Blue Green. Fingers crossed.

You can usually find this at the county recorder where the property is located. What is the property?

 

[Manhattanmarsh9]

You can usually find this at the county recorder where the property is located. What is the property?

Daytona Seabreeze, 3125 S Atlantic Ave, Daytona Beach Shores, FL 32118

 

[dioxide45]

Daytona Seabreeze, 3125 S Atlantic Ave, Daytona Beach Shores, FL 32118

That is Volusia County. You should be able to lookup the deed information here.

LAURA E. ROTH | Clerk of the Circuit Court, Volusia County Florida

app02.clerk.org

 

[Manhattanmarsh9]

That is Volusia County. You should be able to lookup the deed information here.

LAURA E. ROTH | Clerk of the Circuit Court, Volusia County Florida

app02.clerk.org

Thank you! I will check it out.

 

[GrayFal]

This information should be on your deed. Not the book and page of your deed, but it is reference on the deed, sometimes in the legal information.

There is no deed, this is a vacation club. you get an “ assignment of owner beneficiary rights.”

 

[GrayFal]

I am worried that we will be unable to locate the deed. I have some paperwork but not that. I am afraid my mom may have thrown some things out when she was cleaning out files. Hoping for some help from Blue Green. Fingers crossed.

You don’t need your original paperwork to transfer this. BG provides it.
just call and ask for “owner Services” not regular people and they will be able to provide the info from the title department
Edit - better yet, call back the department that originally helped you. I just reviewed two separate set of documents I have.
All reference the BG trust and "owner beneficiary under the trust agreement"

 

[GrayFal]

That is Volusia County. You should be able to lookup the deed information here.

LAURA E. ROTH | Clerk of the Circuit Court, Volusia County Florida

app02.clerk.org

The deed is not in the individuals name. It is held by the Bluegreen Trust. I imagine similar to Marriott Trust or the Coral Vista/Sunset Bay WSJ except the actual units that are backing your points are listed on the Bluegreen Vacation Club Assignment of Owner Beneficiary Rights form.

 

[GrayFal]

Reply from expert

"never seen it before (the form) county would be where ever boca raton is ...the rest of that info is deed info which we do not have because BG hold the deed in trust .."

 

[Manhattanmarsh9]

The deed is not in the individuals name. It is held by the Bluegreen Trust. I imagine similar to Marriott Trust or the Coral Vista/Sunset Bay WSJ except the actual units that are backing your points are listed on the Bluegreen Vacation Club Assignment of Owner Beneficiary Rights form.

Good news! I emailed the document department that emailed me the paperwork and they told me that it stays blank. Their title agency has the information. Stressed out for nothing!