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Resort fee

Sorry if it wasn't clear to you, @dioxide45, the mandatory resort fee plus mandatory taxes on the resort fee total USD$550 (actually USD$554). None of that is discretionary. I had to pay that immediately upon check-in. Taxes on the room and resort charges we make to the room are extra and put on a separate bill.
 
Sorry if it wasn't clear to you, @dioxide45, the mandatory resort fee plus mandatory taxes on the resort fee total USD$550 (actually USD$554). None of that is discretionary. I had to pay that immediately upon check-in. Taxes on the room and and resort charges we make to the room are extra and put on a separate bill.
Thanks for clarifying. By "discretionary" I meant discretionary by the resort. I was just wanting to clarify the actual resort fee. Some people see the total amount (all taxes and all fees) and call that the resort fee, when it might be that only part of that is the resort fee. $80 a day in resort fees is a bit ridiculous. This is one reason I am hesitant to book any Westgate or HVC/DRI properties through II.
 
If memory serves, it was Manhattan Club that started this "resort fee" nonsense. They are particularly outrageous when they are charged to exchangers but not to owners at that resort. Some European resorts meter electricity to members as well as exchangers, and I have less heartburn for fees like that which are charged to all and not excessive.

I remember one time exchaning through the old DAE Europe into a summer week on the French Riviera. The people ahead of us at check-in got popped with several significant extra fees, and I was expecting the same but was checked in without those same fees. When I looked a bit surprised, the resort staff member said "They were RCI". I later learned that DAE exchangers were treated in their system as guests of the owner, and thus exempt from the extra fees on exchangers. I was glad our exchange was through DAE instead of RCI.
 
If memory serves, it was Manhattan Club that started this "resort fee" nonsense. They are particularly outrageous when they are charged to exchangers but not to owners at that resort. Some European resorts meter electricity to members as well as exchangers, and I have less heartburn for fees like that which are charged to all and not excessive.
As an exchanger into the Manhattan Club I'd much rather pay their outrageous fee (plus the exchange fee) than the price for a hotel.
 
Does anyone think it should be incumbent on services like II and RCI to include fairly accurate information regarding taxes and fees the each resort charges so one can at least make an apples to apples comparison and not be surprised.
 
Does anyone think it should be incumbent on services like II and RCI to include fairly accurate information regarding taxes and fees the each resort charges so one can at least make an apples to apples comparison and not be surprised.
They should but it seems with thousands of resorts they leave it to the resorts to provide them the information then they update it. They aren't proactive in going out and getting it.
 
I've found both to be (surprisingly?) accurate about fee disclosures.

I think what they meant was rather than the vague "there may be additional fees" is to list the actual fees.
It's one thing to say "there may be additional fees" or "there is a resort fee" vs:
There is a $70/night resort fee (or in Vidanta's case, could be $125/night fee--until they change it).
 
As a FSRC/FSA owner I am more than fine with the $40/night charge. The resort is top rated, has daily housekeeping and if I were exchanging in I would happily pay it. And of course there are lots of other resorts without fees for people who don’t want to pay the extra $280 for the week.
Most of the resorts in Carlsbad charge fees for parking or whatever, but I do agree with you that the FSA fee is fine by me.
 
I don't mind government fees and small compliance fees. They are what they are.

With everyone's maint fees rising significantly, the exchange fees plus fees protecting your points, exchanging is becoming expensive.

Some resort fees add insult to injury and are becoming ridiculous. e.g. $60/day for Cabo Azul (former Diamond). I am now going to reduce my Satisfaction survey in the exchange and with the resort rating for every property that has outrageous resort fees no matter how nice.

Every Tugger should do the same so the resorts get the message.
 
I have been griping about Hilton fees for a long time, but I get shut down on TUG for complaining. I just don't go to Hiltons, unless I feel the fee is worthy, like Kohala Suites or Kings'land. I don't care for Waikiki Beach (can stay at Wyndham, if I need it), and I don't need to stay at Hilton in Orlando or Vegas.

I know our county (Summit County) in CO would love to get taxes from exchangers. I see that in the future of anyone exchanging into ski areas. Breck is especially greedy.
 
I have been griping about Hilton fees for a long time, but I get shut down on TUG for complaining. I just don't go to Hiltons, unless I feel the fee is worthy, like Kohala Suites or Kings'land. I don't care for Waikiki Beach (can stay at Wyndham, if I need it), and I don't need to stay at Hilton in Orlando or Vegas.

I know our county (Summit County) in CO would love to get taxes from exchangers. I see that in the future of anyone exchanging into ski areas. Breck is especially greedy.
I heard on one of the news stations yesterday that the Colorado State Legislature is considering a 28% tax on short term rentals. I assume exchanges would also be included because of what Summit County did.
 

It's more about property taxes, I think, but who knows what this could lead to in the future for short-term rentals. I don't see how timeshares can suddenly be grouped that way, unless of course the timeshare is doing a lot of rentals (which our management company is doing). @RENTER
 
Id like to just share some views on London Bridge in Havasu and rating wise. I think for this location it depends on what you are there for, and when you are there. During Spring Break this property turns into a Nightclub with a Hotel, not a Hotel with a Nightclub. The Music from Kokomo absolutely reverberates the whole property from 9pm-2am, as well the partakers (Students etc) room basically as many sleeping bags as they can fit into any given room during these times. Occupancy rates are basically ignored and the resort's opinion of the ensuing chaos is they make so much money during that period that they could care less about the average guest. I would believe (without confirming) that many reviews would elude to this fact. Spring Break lasts for weeks as well with the different schools/timelines for break as well.
So to sum it up I am sure that the average guest who doesn't sleep for a week is more likely to leave a negative review then one who goes there during a slow time and has an average stay.
 

It's more about property taxes, I think, but who knows what this could lead to in the future for short-term rentals. I don't see how timeshares can suddenly be grouped that way, unless of course the timeshare is doing a lot of rentals (which our management company is doing). @RENTER
I agree with you. Except there is no common sense when it comes to the government looking for money. Taxing timeshare exchanges is one of them that should scare people away from timeshares. So yes you are right that this is about property taxes. But it is not outrageous to believe they will apply this law if passed to timeshares thus driving up maintenance fees. I do not know how timeshares resorts are now taxed to determine the property taxes we pay in out maintenance fees.
 
The only new resort amenities that have been added at a timeshare resort or a hotel is the Internet in the last thirty years. IMHO
 
The only new resort amenities that have been added at a timeshare resort or a hotel is the Internet in the last thirty years. IMHO
And if you go to Wyndham, many of the resorts are still twenty years behind technology. Limit of four devices (Roku in the bedroom for the kids is one, living room is one, and bedroom, another), or pay a hefty fee for unlimited devices, but we have paid the fee many times, when we are staying more than a few days. Many of the resorts also have tiny TV's and TV's with no ability to add a Roku device, including Steamboat Springs, which was recently updated and beautiful, but the TV's are small and attached too tightly to the wall to add a Roku.

As the highest level member of Wyndham (Founder's level), this fee seems like it should be waived, but it isn't. Then we stay at Marriott/ Westin/ Hyatt/ Vistana and several other quality resorts, and we have great internet that is free and unlimited. Wyndham needs to move into the 2020's. Just my opinion. Others think that better internet will increase the fees overall.
 
And if you go to Wyndham, many of the resorts are still twenty years behind technology. Limit of four devices (Roku in the bedroom for the kids is one, living room is one, and bedroom, another), or pay a hefty fee for unlimited devices, but we have paid the fee many times, when we are staying more than a few days. Many of the resorts also have tiny TV's and TV's with no ability to add a Roku device, including Steamboat Springs, which was recently updated and beautiful, but the TV's are small and attached too tightly to the wall to add a Roku.

As the highest level member of Wyndham (Founder's level), this fee seems like it should be waived, but it isn't. Then we stay at Marriott/ Westin/ Hyatt/ Vistana and several other quality resorts, and we have great internet that is free and unlimited. Wyndham needs to move into the 2020's. Just my opinion. Others think that better internet will increase the fees overall.
A travel router will fix any device limits.
 
A travel router will fix any device limits.
On that note, do you find that most MVC/Vistana resorts you visit have an ethernet outlet to plug the travel router into, or do you connect the router to the resort WiFi, basically daisy chaining your other devices strictly via Wi-Fi hops?
 
On that note, do you find that most MVC/Vistana resorts you visit have an ethernet outlet to plug the travel router into, or do you connect the router to the resort WiFi, basically daisy chaining your other devices strictly via Wi-Fi hops?
Depends. Most resorts don't have a wired connection. The router works both ways. You can connect it to a wired connection (bit more reliable) or it works as a WiFi repeater. You connect the router to the WiFi then you connect all the devices to the router. This usually works best if you have a laptop with you to manage the router, but you can use a mobile device as well.
 
Depends. Most resorts don't have a wired connection. The router works both ways. You can connect it to a wired connection (bit more reliable) or it works as a WiFi repeater. You connect the router to the WiFi then you connect all the devices to the router. This usually works best if you have a laptop with you to manage the router, but you can use a mobile device as well.
Kinda what I figured. I'm old school enough that I prefer a wired connection for my router to increase reliablity and speed. *sigh* I guess I have to get used to the changes with the times.
 
If you have a second phone you can use it as a hotspot for wifi. Not something you want to do all day long but works in a pinch when you need to send an email.
 
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