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Resale prices

kdorward

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Recently on eBay timeshares have been selling very cheap. A star wood 2 br week in Maui went for 4550 on ebay. A Marriott frenchmans cove went for 2325. I just can't believe how low of prices are. There are a lot of deals out there.
 
Note that some of those sales will be ROFR'd by the developer, at that price.
 
The frenchmans cove does not have rode. But maybe for the westin it will be exercised. I just bought an Aruba surf club ocean view for and it took only two days to pass rofr. These prices are disappointing to me if I decide to try to sell a unit. The resale prices have just deter aged so much
 
Buyers few - sellers way too many

Note that some of those sales will be ROFR'd by the developer, at that price.

They may. or may not, but either way all the seller/owner will get is the going market (low) price as ROFR does nothing to raise the price only make the pool of willing buyers, already small, ven smaller because they have to deal with it. If you plan to sell now is the time as it is only going lower in the foreseeable future. If you can hold on a couple years you may do better but there is no guarantee and in fact, like Wyndham prices, they could fall to zero so its a risk either way.

Its sad but the reality is no timeshare - no matter where it is, what the view, who the brand name may or may not be - is worth much over $2000 now with the very best of the best going for $5-$6K tops (yes, there are a extremely few exceptions but they do are declining fast and are very rare - most owners THINK they have one of those but over 90% don't!). To get the top dollar you are likely to see in the next 4-5 years you shhould try to sell now before it does get worse. Over $5K the masses have figured out that the ever rising annual fees and the lack of any resale market makes owning a no go vs simply renting what they want. Remote locations that require air fare (can't be drive to even in emergency) are getting hit even harder as they tend to have super high fees (as everything costs more out in no mans lands) AN every trip requires ever rising air fare to even get there. A double whammy on any resale value.

It is an incredible buyers market never seen before. Sellers are everywhere while willing, able buyers are scarce and they know it. They are gold right now. If you get ANY offer you better take serious care to nurture it as best you can as there may never be another even close. Good luck.
 
It is an incredible buyers market never seen before. Sellers are everywhere while willing, able buyers are scarce and they know it. They are gold right now. If you get ANY offer you better take serious care to nurture it as best you can as there may never be another even close. Good luck.

Woot! I'd like to offer you $1 for you lowest MF resort...of course you'll have to pay this years MF, Transfer costs and all other Fees! :whoopie:


J/K
 
I would gladly pay 5K or more for a Surfside(Falmouth, ma.) 2Br summer(26-32).Looking but haven't seen one for sale.
 
I have read the warnings about upfront fees. I thought I'd gotten wiser. Has anyone had any experience with Coastal Timeshare Creations or Timeshared, Inc. in Hilton Head, SC? I'd appreciate any info.
 
I have read the warnings about upfront fees. I thought I'd gotten wiser. Has anyone had any experience with Coastal Timeshare Creations or Timeshared, Inc. in Hilton Head, SC? I'd appreciate any info.

None but here's a few universal tests you can run:

- Did they contact you or did you find them? If the first, run away
- Are they asking for more than $75 in any type of fee, appraisal, whatever prior to the sale? If so - run away
- Do they have a professional web site with reasonably priced units for sale? If not, or if all the offers are at or near developer pricing, run away
- Do they have a local storefront/gallery? If so that's a positive sign
- Do they spell out in any contract offered the complete terms of a completed sale - what triggers the commission? If so another positive sign

Those few things can tell a lot about the operation. One or more of the negatives and you should avoid them. One or more of the positives, and no negatives, means they likely are a credible organization to deal with. Good luck.
 
I did go to the storefront for Coastal Timeshare Creations. Website is www.coastal4less.com. Timeshared, Inc. is at 64 Woods Bay Road, Bluffton, website is www.timesharedvacations.com. Prices on the website seem high to me compared to what I've seen elsewhere.

High prices show that they are drumming up sellers with promises of higher than average prices that they'll very unlikely to actually get. It is a red flag.
 
Before you could rent a week out for a profit. Now you are lucky to get a couple hundred over your MF plus taxes. So now you can by a resale week dirt cheap but if you have a few properties it's hard to pay all the MF if you can't rent them out.
 
Before you could rent a week out for a profit. Now you are lucky to get a couple hundred over your MF plus taxes. So now you can by a resale week dirt cheap but if you have a few properties it's hard to pay all the MF if you can't rent them out.

Welcome to the world of timesharing in this down-turned economy.
 
If you look at total local markets, of which eBay is probably only a tiny fraction in any of them, you may well get a different picture.

The most active part of the retail market tends to be those who buy to own, and they tend to go through more localized markets instead of national markets.

Here is what I found and posted on another site recently on NC Outer Banks resales, comparing 2007 with 2011:

http://www.timeshareforums.com/foru...es-test-t-s-resells-down-only-marginally.html
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Some look at the timeshare bargain basement of eBay and conclude that the bottom has fallen out of the timeshare market generally. It may have for certain areas, but certainly not all. In running my usual test of the area I am familiar with, the Outer Banks, it is down marginally but still cooking along rather well for the state of the overall economy.

As usual, I looked at only Nags Head and Kill Devil Hills. The eight resorts in these towns are all oceanfront and all member-controlled, with the developers long out of the picture. I did not include Duck or Kitty Hawk due to developer control at some resorts and developer sales or developer resales skewing the market. I also did not include Hatteras as its one timeshare is tiny (only four units as I recall). Dare County records are good for actual resale records because the procedures of the local land transfer tax, unlike the state tax stamps elsehwere, have more strict procedures like requiring a sworn affidavit as to the amount received, which are usually done by closing attorneys and correspond with the figures on the 1099's that are filed with the IRS, so they are usually accurate.

I looked at the Spring period, the months of March, April, and May for the years 2007 and 2011.

Total resales in both areas were 65 in 2007 for these three months and 49 in 2011, a 25% decrease. These numbers do not include deedbacks to HOA's or owner to PCC deeds.

As the prices and specific weeks selling, here is the breakdown:

2011

Kill Devil Hills

Prime Red: 14 sold, average price: $7,085
Pink: 11 sold, average price: $1591
white: 3 sold, average price: $100
blue: 8 sold, average price: $412 (distorted by a T'giving wk at $2700)

Nage Head

Prime red: 1 sold price $5,700
Pink: 7 sold, average price $1,742
white: 0 sold
blue: 5 sold, average price $140

2007

Kill Devil Hills

Prime red: 13 sold, average price $6,884
pink: 16 sold, average price $2,867
white: 6 sold, average price $633
blue: 9 sold, average price $655

Nags Head

prime red; 1 sold, $6,700
pink: 10 sold, average price $1,964
white: 2 sold, average price $225
blue: 8 sold, average price $229

As to HOA transactions, in 2007 Nags Head had 10 HOA resales and no deedbacks , while in 2011 it had 4 HOA resales and 3 deedbacks in these months. Kill Devil Hills had 7 HOA resales and no deedbacks in 2007 and also 7 HOA resales and no deedbacks these months in 2011

As to PCC transactions. in 2007 Nags Head had 1 week deeded in to a PCC (pink) and none out, while in 2011 there were no PCC transactions in or out. In Kill Devil Hills, there were 12 weeks deeded to PCC's (1 prime, 6 pink, 1 white, 4 blue) in 2007 and 2 deeded out, while in 2011 there were 7 weeks deeded in to PCC's (2 pink, 5 blue) and 3 weeks (2 white, 1 blue) deeded out.

So, in general, the timeshare resale market on the NC Outer Banks seems relatively stable.
 
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