Resale experience in the Starwood network

[r51249b]

We have a few Kaanapali properties and are Elite 3. We are strongly considering buying a Lagunamar property resale and are wondering how much the Starwood experience will change? I understand there are no points and exchanges but are booking, rquesting rooms and the overall visit experience similar? Thanks for any input and advice.

 

[LisaRex]

Since you won't have SOs, if you want to exchange via II, you'll have to open up a separate account and pay for it on your own dime.

You won't be able to convert this unit to SPs.

If you have access to an Elite reservation number, it's possible that they'll want you to call on the regular number to reserve Lagunamar, but otherwise the process is exactly the same for resale owners.

 

[Sicnarf]

Other than the SO's and SPs, the process for this unit will be the same. You will not have to open a separate II account as this will be part of your SVN II account. I own several resale units and I was able to do II exchanges without opening a separate II account.

 

[tschwa2]

Other than the SO's and SPs, the process for this unit will be the same. You will not have to open a separate II account as this will be part of your SVN II account. I own several resale units and I was able to do II exchanges without opening a separate II account.

Really? Has this been recent (last 6 months or so) or further back when you exchanged non SVN weeks using your SVN II account? Which resale resorts are in your SVN II account? Are they duplicates of ones you also have enrolled in SVN?

 

[Ken555]

Other than the SO's and SPs, the process for this unit will be the same. You will not have to open a separate II account as this will be part of your SVN II account. I own several resale units and I was able to do II exchanges without opening a separate II account.

If true, then I've overpaid for II since 2006. They required me to have a separate II account for my resale SVN weeks, as they have for all other reports over the last 10 years on TUG.


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[sjsharkie]

If true, then I've overpaid for II since 2006. They required me to have a separate II account for my resale SVN weeks, as they have for all other reports over the last 10 years on TUG.


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Ditto to Ken's experience.

I tried this initially with II when adding a couple of voluntary resorts to my account. I knew the rule but wanted to see if it was enforced by II. The agent told me this was not possible, and that I had to open a separate account to add the voluntary resorts to my account.

So in my experience, the rule is you need to open a separate II account and it was enforced in my case.

-ryan

 

[Sicnarf]

Well, all my resale units are mandatory except for SMV and I have not exchanged it since I always use my small 1BR SVV lock-off for II exchange.

My apologies if I've misled anyone since I was responding to the "resale" aspect and not necessarily the difference between mandatory and voluntary resorts.

 

[DeniseM]

All mandatory Starwood resorts can go in your SVN II Acct.

All voluntary Starwood resorts, purchased resale, must go in a separate, personal II Acct. Lagunamar would fall into this category.

 

[margolism]

Then again, you don't pay SVN membership fees on a WLR resale purchase, which means your annual fees are lower than if you purchased it from the developer. Even if you get a separate II account for the WLR, it comes out a little less on an annual basis.

Of course, as originally mentioned, you don't get the benefit of StarOptions. Then again, with all the money you save buying resale, it would take decades, if ever, to recoup the difference in savings vs. the value of StarOptions benefits.

 

[LisaRex]

Then again, you don't pay SVN membership fees on a WLR resale purchase, which means your annual fees are lower than if you purchased it from the developer. Even if you get a separate II account for the WLR, it comes out a little less on an annual basis.

True, but since he'll continue to own WKORV, he'll only save what it costs to own a 2nd SVO VOI, which is around $35 IIRC.

 

[cubigbird]

All mandatory Starwood resorts can go in your SVN II Acct.

All voluntary Starwood resorts, purchased resale, must go in a separate, personal II Acct. Lagunamar would fall into this category.

Will the resale voluntary week show up in MSC with the other ownerships or do you need a new separate login for that too??

 

[tschwa2]

As long as the names on the deed are the same, they will appear in a single MSC account.

 

[okwiater]

Will the resale voluntary week show up in MSC with the other ownerships or do you need a new separate login for that too??

Your voluntary ownership will show up in the same account as mandatory ownerships... as long as you've taken care to title the deeds in the exact same way. There have been reports of account fragmentation when names appear differently or in a different order on the deeds.

 

[VacationForever]

Your voluntary ownership will show up in the same account as mandatory ownerships... as long as you've taken care to title the deeds in the exact same way. There have been reports of account fragmentation when names appear differently or in a different order on the deeds.

I have several timeshares in the same MSC and I am the only common denominator on the deeds. I have one that is deeded in my name only, bought in 1996 or 97, and the others together with my husband. No issue there and I think I did tell them to use the same account when I acquired the rest.