Resale Benefits?

[learning_noob]

Hi, I just got out of a presentation for CWA and ended up getting 154k points for almost $25k. Realizing I got in with all the hype and emotions and did a little bit of researched too little too late. Found out you can buy these on resale for really cheap. So I'm planning to cancel it while I'm within the 10 day period. Just wondering aside from the savings, do you get any benefits from buying resale? I read you won't be eligible for VIP status. But was wondering about:

1) Does Resale have access to RCI to book internationally?
2) Does Resale have access to use points for airfare, cruises, etc?
3) I read some eBay listing that say after purchase, it takes 6 months the transfer process, is this about the estimated transfer time from everyones experience? or is that just eBay and would it be better to buy elsewhere (tug2)?

Any other experience or something I should know would be appreciated.

 

[learning_noob]

4) Also curious how I can increase the points later on. Let's say I bought a resale for grand desert for 100k points. Do I buy another resale to increase my points? but how would I pool it together? Or do I have to purchase from Wyndham to increase my points?

 

[vacation911]

Hi, I just got out of a presentation for CWA and ended up getting 154k points for almost $25k. Realizing I got in with all the hype and emotions and did a little bit of researched too little too late. Found out you can buy these on resale for really cheap. So I'm planning to cancel it while I'm within the 10 day period. Just wondering aside from the savings, do you get any benefits from buying resale? I read you won't be eligible for VIP status. But was wondering about:

1) Does Resale have access to RCI to book internationally?
2) Does Resale have access to use points for airfare, cruises, etc?
3) I read some eBay listing that say after purchase, it takes 6 months the transfer process, is this about the estimated transfer time from everyones experience? or is that just eBay and would it be better to buy elsewhere (tug2)?

Any other experience or something I should know would be appreciated.

If you're considering this purchase, I’d recommend canceling within your allotted time. It’s great that you’ve found this website and caught this during your rescission period—many people don’t realize until it’s too late, so kudos to you for doing your research in time!

Here are a few things to keep in mind:

• The level you’re buying at doesn’t include VIP benefits. While the developer might offer bonus points to elevate you to VIP temporarily, those points will expire, and the benefits won’t transfer if you decide to sell later. VIP is exclusive to developer purchases.
• The price you’re paying to buy directly from the developer is usually not worth it compared to the resale market, VIP or not. It would take an unrealistic number of free upgrades or discounted rooms to make up for that price.
• If you ever decide to sell, you should be comfortable with the fact that you may not recoup any of your purchase price.

Regarding benefits:

• Yes, you’ll still have full access to RCI International and Domestic through resale.
• No, you won’t have the Plus Partners benefits, but it’s worth noting that buying those things like airefare, cruises in cash is always cheaper than using points. Points are best utilized within the resort network. Your maintenance fees on the points you use will be like 3 times the cash you would have spent to pay.

About transfer times:
While some transfers can take up to six months, most don’t take that long. If you’re considering resale, platforms like eBay or TUG are great options. Just make sure to buy from sellers with solid feedback and a good reputation.

Best of luck with your decision, and feel free to update us when you’ve made your choice.

 

[vacation911]

4) Also curious how I can increase the points later on. Let's say I bought a resale for grand desert for 100k points. Do I buy another resale to increase my points? but how would I pool it together? Or do I have to purchase from Wyndham to increase my points?

Points can be combined in the same member account, whether they’re resale or not. Only developer points have the developer perks. You choose which to use from same account.

 

[Sandi Bo]

Only buy points to use for booking rooms - any other use of points is not going to be cost effective, they might at best be a means to get rid of points that are otherwise going to go to waste. But don't buy points because of the sales pitches to use for cruises or to rent or anything else they entice you with.

It does not matter where you purchase your points (eBay or elsewhere) - all are subject to the terrible transfer times we read about (the exception to that would be if you were purchasing developer points from Wyndham, I think they are more reasonable transfer times (and I am in no way saying it's worth it).

If you are looking at purchasing resale points, the most important thing to know is you want to purchase from a resort with low maintenance fees - which is typically the higher priced overall resorts (like Hawaii, Canterbury in San Francisco, etc). Because it takes more points to stay there - the maintenance fees tend to be lower. Whatever you own, points are points - you can buy a Hawaii resale contract and use the points at Bonnet Creek in Orlando, for example. Unless you need a home resort benefit (which would be advanced reservation priviledges - which are rarely needed), buy contracts for low maintenance fees, not the resort itself.

Sometimes Wyndham offers discounted reservations (that include resale points). Not often and you can't count on it, but they throw them out there sometimes - in December they offered 50% off at a lot of places, if you booked by a certain date and the reservation started by the end of January. That's one of the better sales I've seen (ever).

 

[Floridaman76]

Yes, definitely cancel, you get NO benefits or discounts by buying from the developer at such a low level. You can always add more points later, it's cumulative

 

[learning_noob]

Awesome, thanks everyone! Glad there's such an activity community for this to help new comers!

 

[Floridaman76]

It's not an absolute requirement, but one of the things to look for when adding points later is to try to add a contract which has the same use year of your original one. And also, when making your initital purchase, getting one with a January use year will probably help not complicate things later, as January is the most common use year and also allows you to add bi-annual contracts as well without complications, which are all January use year.

 

[vacation911]

It's not an absolute requirement, but one of the things to look for when adding points later is to try to add a contract which has the same use year of your original one. And also, when making your initital purchase, getting one with a January use year will probably help not complicate things later, as January is the most common use year and also allows you to add bi-annual contracts as well without complications, which are all January use year.

I thought Wyndham doesn’t allow multiple use years anymore, but I’ve been thinking about this and still feel a bit confused.

What happens if you buy points with a different use year? Do they automatically get converted to match your original use year? I think it might depend on when the points expire. For example, if they expire in July 2026, they’d be considered 2026 points, even though they were technically issued in 2025.

That conversion process seems a little tricky—and honestly, I feel like I wouldn’t be getting all the points, even though technically I would. Does anyone else feel this way? Or can someone help clarify how this works? I’d really appreciate it.

 

[Sandi Bo]

I thought Wyndham doesn’t allow multiple use years anymore, but I’ve been thinking about this and still feel a bit confused.

What happens if you buy points with a different use year? Do they automatically get converted to match your original use year? I think it might depend on when the points expire. For example, if they expire in July 2026, they’d be considered 2026 points, even though they were technically issued in 2025.

That conversion process seems a little tricky—and honestly, I feel like I wouldn’t be getting all the points, even though technically I would. Does anyone else feel this way? Or can someone help clarify how this works? I’d really appreciate it.

You are correct on all things you mentioned. The 'rule' when they started aligning use years was they would pick the latest one to end (thus Jan - Dec is the most 'popular') although they would allow you to make different requests (and you would possibly be granted an option - say you had a reason for a Apr-March use year). When first implemented, they prorated for the "lost" months, both for what you had in your account as well as for new resale purchases. They stopped doing that and essentially now, they'll push you forward (you still pay the maintenance) and the points essentially have disappeared). They may prorate you at the time of your new (resale) purchase but if they don't, they might do it at any time. Rule #1 - Wyndham makes the rules (and may or may not tell you what they are or what they are doing - it is possible you login one day and find out you've been realigned).

Your comment about what use year something is that spans multiple years- I think a July 2025-July 2026 use year is considered a 2025 use year. If that contract were realigned in 2025 to end Dec 2025, I think you'd get your new allotment of Jan-Dec 2026 points on Jan 2026. Someone on here may have a more accurate answer on that. That's my best guess.

 

[kanerf]

I just purchased 392000 points for $1. Took awhile for the transfer, but the points are in my account.

 

[paxsarah]

Your comment about what use year something is that spans multiple years- I think a July 2025-July 2026 use year is considered a 2025 use year. If that contract were realigned in 2025 to end Dec 2025, I think you'd get your new allotment of Jan-Dec 2026 points on Jan 2026. Someone on here may have a more accurate answer on that. That's my best guess.

The use year is determined by the end date of the use year - so the use years ending on March 31, June 30, September 30, and December 31 of 2025 are all "2025 use years." I've always understood this to be the case from previous discussions on TUG, but I wasn't sure of the source until I looked it up a little while back here, and it's the way it's written in the Fairshare Vacation Plan governing docs. Even though we typically refer to use years by their start month, in the governing docs they're defined by their end date. That's why when Wyndham realigns to the latest existing use year in an owner's account, (what we refer to as) January is the latest possible.