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Reduced International travel impacting U.S. timeshares

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I have a timeshare in a popular Florida resort near Disney that I can't use this year and have been trying to rent but no luck. In a typical year (except for Covid) that was not an issue but this year it is. I've seen multiple listings like mine on Redweek and even here trying to rent similar units with very little luck. Also have been hearing on the news international leisure travel to the USA is "weak" which I believe may be impacting demand. Anyone else experiencing issues with renting?
 
We flew home from London last week and based on the lines at customs here in Las Vegas the vast majority of the passengers were from other countries.
 
It is reduced travel everywhere.

In late April, I took friends to the Vidanta Grand Luxxe Riviera Maya area - south of Cancun. There were so few guests that they resort rotated which restaurants were open in the evening.

Then two weeks later a DIL and I drove to the Puerto Penasco for a week at the Grand Mayan and they had closed more than 60% for deep clean and painting. Only one of the 3 restaurants was open. There were fewer than 20 cars in the parking lot. We met a few people who took a shuttle from the Phoenix airport $200 each round trip. (There are no flights to PP.) It was unusual to see more than 2 people in the lazy river and the warm mini-pools usually had 4 -6 people at them. I saw very few golfers when looking from my balcony.
 
Canada travel to the US is down. Be interesting how the World Cup plays out next year.
 
Canada travel to the US is down. Be interesting how the World Cup plays out next year.
I think quite a few of the travelers at my resort are from Canada. (Its definitely going to be interesting in the Kansas City area for the World Cup next year and the travel environment at the time. Some municipalities here are easing short term rental restrictions to meet demand but....)
 
It could also be extra competition from those listing weeks for rent if they don't plan to go to the USA this year. Many timeshare weeks are owned by Canadians and other international travelers. If they've planned to not come they will look to try and find a way to cover their fees.

I'm still not buying that travel overall is down that much. The timeshare resorts are still running high occupancy, but perhaps the hotels are not seeing as much volume. And timeshare rentals do also compete against hotel rates.
 
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I think quite a few of the travelers at my resort are from Canada. (Its definitely going to be interesting in the Kansas City area for the World Cup next year and the travel environment at the time. Some municipalities here are easing short term rental restrictions to meet demand but....)

Not to turn this political but you may find that World Cup may not see demand for the matches in US.

I attended a WC match in Mexico in 1986, Monterey, and it was affordable. What I am seeing for prices now has surely priced me out of attendance. I'll be watching from my recliner.
 
Are airplanes still the safest mode of travel? If they are, whatever is second safest is catching up quickly.
 
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This has been much discussed on TUG:
- People are afraid to cross borders.
- People are afraid to go through security at the airport.
- Some people think flying is less safe due to recent crashes and reduction in air traffic control staff.
- People aren't sure where the economy is going.
- People are afraid to commit to a future vacation, in uncertain times.
- People don't know if their job and/or investments are secure.

It's not a mystery...
 
This has been much discussed on TUG:
- People are afraid to cross borders.
- People are afraid to go through security at the airport.
- Some people think flying is less safe due to recent crashes and reduction in air traffic control staff.
- People aren't sure where the economy is going.
- People are afraid to commit to a future vacation, in uncertain times.
- People don't know if their job and/or investments are secure.

It's not a mystery...

Well said Denise. It's definitely not a mystery.

Bill
 
I have a timeshare in a popular Florida resort near Disney that I can't use this year and have been trying to rent but no luck.
There is a trend towards Micro-cations and reduced travel to resorts to manage costs.

"Managing costs
According to Ferrara, “people are prioritizing trips, they’re maybe just doing them differently,” noting that Americans appear to be managing costs by taking smaller, more frequent trips.

Though travelers plan to take an average of 3.1 summer trips this year, up from 2.3 in 2024, a higher percentage this year (41%) plan to take a trip of three nights or fewer, Deloitte found.

Allianz Partners’ Summer 2025 Vacation Confidence Index also found a rise in “micro-cations,” defined as leisure trips more than 100 miles from home for four nights or fewer.

Of travelers who told Deloitte in April that they plan to reduce their travel spend this year, the most common method is by taking shorter trips (43%), followed by staying at budget hotels (33%) and staying with family and friends (30%).

Additionally, fewer travelers this summer will stay at destination resorts, down 2 percentage points year on year, per the report."
 
I have a timeshare in a popular Florida resort near Disney that I can't use this year and have been trying to rent but no luck. In a typical year (except for Covid) that was not an issue but this year it is. I've seen multiple listings like mine on Redweek and even here trying to rent similar units with very little luck. Also have been hearing on the news international leisure travel to the USA is "weak" which I believe may be impacting demand. Anyone else experiencing issues with renting?
Usually during past years, I've gotten response after response to my rental listings. With the benefit of multiple years of experience, I've learned at what prices each listing can reasonably be expected to rent.

This year, after week after week and even month after month with ZERO inquiries or bookings, with check-in dates approaching, and with my not wanting to build up big exchange balances, I lowered my prices significantly (ballpark 30 to 40%). And they rented.

So I really don't care why. Could be international travel is down. Could be people are more fearful about the economy and therefore more cautious about spending. It makes no difference why. All I need to know is that this year is an outlier during which timeshares won't rent unless they're priced even below rockbottom low.
There is a trend towards Micro-cations and reduced travel to resorts to manage costs.

"Managing costs
According to Ferrara, “people are prioritizing trips, they’re maybe just doing them differently,” noting that Americans appear to be managing costs by taking smaller, more frequent trips.

Though travelers plan to take an average of 3.1 summer trips this year, up from 2.3 in 2024, a higher percentage this year (41%) plan to take a trip of three nights or fewer, Deloitte found.

Allianz Partners’ Summer 2025 Vacation Confidence Index also found a rise in “micro-cations,” defined as leisure trips more than 100 miles from home for four nights or fewer.

Of travelers who told Deloitte in April that they plan to reduce their travel spend this year, the most common method is by taking shorter trips (43%), followed by staying at budget hotels (33%) and staying with family and friends (30%).

Additionally, fewer travelers this summer will stay at destination resorts, down 2 percentage points year on year, per the report."
Your cited article makes it appear that shorter stays are a new occurrence.

But that's something I've noticed for years. It makes a big difference in rental demand if you can offer a short stay rather than only a seven night stay. But that often depends upon the resort as some resorts insist that they will not be involved in splitting a week up for multiple guests. At those resorts, it doesn't matter if you're willing to pay for a "midweek cleaning" each time as appropriate. And those are the resorts that I sold such that I'm now down to four total timeshares. I don't always get to travel myself, so it's nice (actually necessary) to have an alternative option.

And even for those guests who take advantage of a big "7 night" discount, oftentimes the parents need to work remotely, so their seven night vacation is really a matter of allowing their kids to enjoy the pool, planned activities, etc. during daytime when they're working.

So why is THIS YEAR different?

We can speculate all day but, suffice to say, it IS different. But for one more possible reason, I just watched a Youtube video about a Hispanic couple and two older kids that stayed at Hyatt Windward Pointe in Key West for Fantasy Fest (posted in a Hyatt thread). If you're Hispanic and you're undocumented, you're not even going to church, much less a vacation resort. If you're a Hispanic business owner and your bustling "main street" shopping strip, during recent years filled with families shopping, is now a Ghost Town, or a Nicaraguan who had been on Temporary Protected Status for a decade plus who's now been told he needs to self-deport, are you making expensive vacation plans for your family?

In the past, I often had Hispanic guests. This year, zero.

If you look at this on a strict supply/demand basis, supply may be marginally up as Dioxide speculated by Canadians seeking to rent out their timeshares. And it seems that demand is way down, for whatever the reasons. Therefore, prices have to come down to attain a balance between supply and demand, i.e., equilibrium. So statistics may indicate that domestic travel is unchanged from prior years, but what were the prices paid for lodging as compared to prior years?
 
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For goodness sake, why is this becoming political?
 
For goodness sake, why is this becoming political?
I didn't express anything about anything being good or bad. But, having just returned from a trip to New Jersey, I can tell you that Bergenline and Kennedy Boulevard and Park Avenue stretching through West New York and Union City (across the Hudson River from Manhattan) were always bustling, families shopping and entering restaurants. Now it's " a bit" different. Just an observation of reality.
 
It could also be extra competition from those listing weeks for rent if they don't plan to go to the USA this year. Many timeshare weeks are owned by Canadians and other international travelers. If they've planned to not come they will look to try and find a way to cover their fees.

I'm still not buying that travel overall is down that much. The timeshare resorts are still running high occupancy, but perhaps the hotels are not seeing as much volume. And timeshare rentals do also compete against hotel rates.

I suspect timeshare vacations may be more resilient than hotel stays. They are mostly prepaid via the maintenance fees, so they are essentially use it or lose it. Couple that with the fact that many people plan them far in advance.

A number of my coworkers are still sorting out what they will do this summer, while I have fully booked and mostly paid for my trips this year, and have several TS bookings for 2026, as the booking window opens up.
 
For goodness sake, why is this becoming political?
There are certainly geopolitical policies in play impacting travel. Not sure it makes it inherently political.
 
I haven't noticed any difference to the inventory we use for travel. Most of the prime spots are taken as soon as the reservation window opens. I haven't noticed a decrease in the availability of flights to these destinations either. That being said, we only travel to certain areas. It reminds me of other times when travel slowed. The silver lining might be we can get a pool lounge chair or cabana at 11am.

Bill
 
Just an anecdote FWIW. A friend's friend just returned from Europe. Europeans they ran into and had conversations with thought that the US has lost its mind. Vacationing here wasn't even a consideration for them anymore in the current environment.
 
Just an anecdote FWIW. A friend's friend just returned from Europe. Europeans they ran into and had conversations with thought that the US has lost its mind. Vacationing here wasn't even a consideration for them anymore in the current environment.

Yup. I've been hearing this from a number of friends in Europe. Some visit the US annually, and even they said they have canceled upcoming trips here.
 
people will believe what they want to, and gravitate towards articles/information that supports their beliefs. doesnt make those beliefs any more or less accurate however.
 
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