RCI Question [Worldmark]

[PinkTink63]

It is my understanding that inventory within 45 days would be 4,000 credits. Is not the case?

 

[DeniseM]

What kind of "credits"?

 

[PinkTink63]

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[sue1947]

That is correct. Make sure you are counting the days correctly.

Sue

 

[PinkTink63]

That is correct. Make sure you are counting the days correctly.

Sue

Well...I have been told something different every time I call!! I was told today by one person that not all resorts go 4,000 within 45 days! (Of course that is not what I was told 3 previously!!:annoyed. I went through every single resort they had available in Orlando and "Yes"...they are all 4,000 credits within the 45 days!!!

Then I was told by another that my match wasn't within 45 days!! (Which is also incorrect and I brought that to her attention!!)

After telling her that SSR has been in the system for 4,000 credits at 45 days, she tells me that I would have to start my OGS at 45 days to get that! Now that is the first time I have been told that!!

 

[lily28]

Same thing happened to me the Old key west resort. I was told by the agent, after checking with her supervisor, that not every resorts will be 4000 Walmart credit within 45 days.

 

[tschwa2]

Check this one to see if it is 4000 in the system

ULTIQA Rothbury Hotel (#RC86) for Sept 04 It's in Australia.
the tpu's are in the 39-56 range.

So the question is, did it not work for 4000 for you because of the high tpu's, or the fact that the OGS was started before 45 days, or glitches in the system.

 

[oceanvps]

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[PinkTink63]

Same thing happened to me the Old key west resort. I was told by the agent, after checking with her supervisor, that not every resorts will be 4000 Walmart credit within 45 days.

I do not believe that for a second! I have seen both of those with my own eyes in the last few months!!!

 

[rhonda]

... she (RCI VC?) tells me that I would have to start my OGS at 45 days to get that! Now that is the first time I have been told that!!

That was my understanding from way, way back. I don't have any written documentation to that effect but recall it from a live training session attended when we first joined, ~2000.

EDITED TO ADD: However, the Worldmark Credits aren't taken from your account directly by RCI. It takes a backend process submitted to Worldmark. Perhaps you could simply "Smile and nod" your way through the RCI Vacation Councilor's comments and then call the Worldmark Exchange Department for their thoughts on how it will process later?

 

[rhonda]

Check this one to see if it is 4000 in the system

ULTIQA Rothbury Hotel (#RC86) for Sept 04 It's in Australia.
the tpu's are in the 39-56 range.

So the question is, did it not work for 4000 for you because of the high tpu's, or the fact that the OGS was started before 45 days, or glitches in the system.

I see an 8/28 check-in at that property for 4000 WM Credits (blue studio exchange). I don't see the 9/4 week for that property, perhaps it is already taken, but see a number of Aug/Sept weeks at ULTIQA Village Resorts, all 3BR units, for the same discounted 4000 Credit exchange.

 

[tschwa2]

No, the Sept 04 one is still there and the Aug 28th one is only 10 tpu's so that doesn't prove anything one way or the other. I am looking for units that are outside of 30 days but inside 45 days and have tpu's of higher than 25.

Another to try: Sandy Point Beach Club (#0080) Trinadad and Tobago
on Sept 4 and Sept 11. There are 3 units between those dates with tpu's of 33-35.

 

[rhonda]

No, the Sept 04 one is still there and the Aug 28th one is only 10 tpu's so that doesn't prove anything one way or the other. I am looking for units that are outside of 30 days but inside 45 days and have tpu's of higher than 25.

Another to try: Sandy Point Beach Club (#0080) Trinadad and Tobago
on Sept 4 and Sept 11. There are 3 units between those dates with tpu's of 33-35.

Ah, interesting. NO, the two dates you specify do NOT show up using WM>RCI B2B website. I see an 8/7 check-in for 4000 credits ... but then nothing until 9/18 (just beyond 45 days) at full price.

So ... me'thinks RCI is playing nasty games with the former, widely taught and widely accepted tenant, "Anything available in RCI is 4000 WM credits (blue studio) if booked w/in 45-days." Boo!

 

[tschwa2]

They did the same thing with rci points and rci 45 day certificates.

With RCI points originally all weeks inventory at 45 days went down to 6500-9000 RCI points. Then they reduced it down to 30 days and then 30 days but only if the tpu's on the weeks side were 12 or less.

The 45 day certificates (developer certs pay only $209 exchange fee) will also only show inventory that is 45 days or less and less than about 12 tpu's.

There was a National Harbor week in March that was still showing 33 tpu's and 89,000 RCI points with 3 days until check in. No discounts for RCI points and no availability with the free cert.

It's interesting that they aren't offering them as full price as they do with RCI points but then I guess they would have to admit that they aren't discounting everything and by not showing it then they can pretend otherwise. My guess is the Disney unit that matched on the hold still had a high enough value that the they were not going to discount but still allowed the match.

 

[tschwa2]

So these are in the 20-30 range:
DVC Saratoga Springs #DV06 Sept 12 30 tpu's
Divi Little Bay Beach Resort #4219 Sept 5 Sept 6 25 tpu's
Fiji Palms #0676 Sept 12 26 tpu's

If you can't see these we can go even lower in the tpu range to see where it stops.

 

[rhonda]

Ah, sorry -- I have to bow out for time constraints. The WM>RCI B2B is far to slow for "fun searching." If it allowed a quick search by number I'd be in better shape ... but I don't see that avenue and don't tend to use the B2B site sufficiently often to be worthwhile. (I generally use the RCI direct site w/ my non-WM timeshare.)

Anyone else game to pick up the baton?

 

[PinkTink63]

That was my understanding from way, way back. I don't have any written documentation to that effect but recall it from a live training session attended when we first joined, ~2000.

EDITED TO ADD: However, the Worldmark Credits aren't taken from your account directly by RCI. It takes a backend process submitted to Worldmark. Perhaps you could simply "Smile and nod" your way through the RCI Vacation Councilor's comments and then call the Worldmark Exchange Department for their thoughts on how it will process later?

Thank you! I think I will!

 

[PinkTink63]

So these are in the 20-30 range:
DVC Saratoga Springs #DV06 Sept 12 30 tpu's
Divi Little Bay Beach Resort #4219 Sept 5 Sept 6 25 tpu's
Fiji Palms #0676 Sept 12 26 tpu's

If you can't see these we can go even lower in the tpu range to see where it stops.

I don't know about the TPU's thing. All I know is when I trade out: studios =8,000, 1 bdrms = 9,000 and 2 bdrms =10,000 credits. Everything within 45 days of check-in 4,000 credits. That is what I have been told by several RCI and WM reps until yesterday!!

 

[tschwa2]

What it looks like is that they are just not allowing you to book (or even show you that it is available) inventory that RCI has but they still think has a decent trading value. I don't know if this is a recent change or if they have been hiding that inventory from Worldmark accounts for several months or even years.

 

[taterhed]

Their point is: seems like inventory (which would become eligible for your 4000 pt <45 day flextrade, is magically disappearing at less than 45 days.

( I think?)


(edited: ....for Worldmark owners)

 

[tschwa2]

No its not. It is still available to anyone without a worldmark RCI account.
It just isn't available to worldmark owners, I presume because they don't want to admit they have inventory they are not discounting for Worldmark.

 

[taterhed]

No its not. It is still available to anyone without a worldmark RCI account.
It just isn't available to worldmark owners, I presume because they don't want to admit they have inventory they are not discounting for Worldmark.

And by that I meant magically disappearing for WorldMark owners

Sent from my spell phone...doh!

 

[sue1947]

Thank you! I think I will!

You can no longer talk directly to the WM exchange dept. You should call Owner Care instead.

The decision to not allow owners to talk to the Exchange dept is an asinine one that is costing them more money. They route you to Vacation Planners who know very little about exchanging so they transfer you to Owner Care who has to call Exchange; the end result is you get to tell the same story three times.

Sue

 

[PinkTink63]

You can no longer talk directly to the WM exchange dept. You should call Owner Care instead.

The decision to not allow owners to talk to the Exchange dept is an asinine one that is costing them more money. They route you to Vacation Planners who know very little about exchanging so they transfer you to Owner Care who has to call Exchange; the end result is you get to tell the same story three times.

Sue

Thanks! That's progress for you!!

 

[mrsmusic]

Yes, they are hiding inventory for WM owners. I have 4 different ways to log into RCI since I own in several different systems- RCI weeks, points, WM (resale acct) and an HGVC acct. I can also log in through a friend's who has WM TS.

There should be no acceptable reason for my RCI weeks account to show more last minute DVC inventory than either of the WM accounts I can look with. But there is definitely a difference.

I suspected this quite awhile ago. So much for the "anything for 4000 credits at 45 days" line at the sales desks.


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