RCI points membership/no maintenance fees, no timeshare ownership?

[kbw3377]

I can really find anything on the internet or even this site regarding the "RCI Platinum membership" with the Florida Vacation Villas Club.

I talked with a person today at Coastal Timeshare Creations in Hilton Head, he is selling RCI memberships with somehow related to the Florida Vacation Villas Club that he did really give any info about. It is suppose to be 250,000 RCI points that we would get every year to book through the RCI membership with no MF involved. Plus he stated that RCI will for a $149 fee sell our Holiday Inn Orange Village deeded property.

I am just trying to find some clarification and from others experiences with what he is trying to sell?

 

[Egret1986]

I can really find anything on the internet or even this site regarding the "RCI Platinum membership" with the Florida Vacation Villas Club.

I talked with a person today at Coastal Timeshare Creations in Hilton Head, he is selling RCI memberships with somehow related to the Florida Vacation Villas Club that he did really give any info about. It is suppose to be 250,000 RCI points that we would get every year to book through the RCI membership with no MF involved. Plus he stated that RCI will for a $149 fee sell our Holiday Inn Orange Village deeded property.

I am just trying to find some clarification and from others experiences with what he is trying to sell?

Since you have no real info and I have no knowledge of Florida Vacation Villas Club, I'll comment on a couple of things you mentioned that seem questionable. To get 250,000 RCI points annually with no MF involved; seems very doubtful. RCI is not in the business of selling timeshares, at least not Resort Condominiums International (RCI). It is a timeshare exchange company. Coastal Timeshare Creations' website is definitely lacking in information.

 

[tschwa2]

This has got to be a vacation club. You may get up to 250,000 rci points annually with no MF's but you will pay some kind of annual fee which my guess would be in the $200-$500 range. You would pay the standard RCI exchange fee for each reservation which would be $199-$230 for 7 nights and a little less of less than 7 night reservation (but you would likely have to pay a HK fee of $60-90 per reservation when you check in for a short stay. You would also either pay a $2500-$3000 use fee when issued your points or the club would charge you around 1-1.5 cent per point that you actually use. All of this would be on top of a $2000-$8000 initiation fee or buy in fee to the club. Really no OL timeshares have any value these days (a very few might be worth $1000-$1500 while 99.5% are worth $0). If you don't want the OL week you can contact the resort about deeding it back. Likely if you pay the $149 fee you will still be on the hook for MF at OL until they can sell it for $0 on ebay or deed it back to the resort on your behalf.

 

[Jan M.]

I did a lot of looking before buying Grandview Las Vegas weeks because we wanted more RCI points. I've never heard of any resort in RCI that you got 250,000 annual points for.

RCI absolutely will not sell your Orange Lake deed, not for any price!

Owning at any resort means you will have yearly maintenance fees. There are no resorts that have no maintenance fees!

Nothing you were told by this salesperson is true or accurate. If he got you to sign anything, rescind and do it now.

I agree with the others who said this is likely a vacation club. It will give you nothing you don't already have access to through your RCI account from owing Orange Lake. We've attended several of these vacation club presentations. Run, don't walk away from this.

 

[Passepartout]

I smell a rat. First, THE RCI, Resort Condominiums International, does not sell timeshares. It's in the exchange business. Second, 250,000 RCI Points is an E-Freaking-Normous number of points to use in a year. I would submit that the MF on that number would be in the ballpark of $4,000-$5,000. Per Year.

I would ask the sales weasels what their version of RCI stands for, because the folks in Carmel Indiana guard it's use like a bulldog.

OP, I'd be reluctant to hand over anything but disposable funds for this. I think it's a scam.

Jim

 

[VanX]

Hi,

Well...., On the resale market you can actually find RTU timeshares with no maintenance fees - I have one.

You can also find timeshares that allow 240K points transfer to RCI annually at no cost - I have one.

However I don’t expect you can find either situation anymore in a 1st time purchase / retail market. Would love to learn if they are out there though.

Good luck and keep reading and looking for the right deal.

 

[tschwa2]

Hi,

Well...., On the resale market you can actually find RTU timeshares with no maintenance fees - I have one.

You can also find timeshares that allow 240K points transfer to RCI annually at no cost - I have one.

However I don’t expect you can find either situation anymore in a 1st time purchase / retail market. Would love to learn if they are out there though.

Good luck and keep reading and looking for the right deal.

So how much did you originally pay to buy this and how much do you pay on an annual basis if you stay either at your home resort or have them transfer points to RCI.

Say this year you wanted to transfer 200,000 points to RCI and are those actual RCI points or some type of points that use a crossover grid to book with RCI. For example how many points would a typical 1 BR RCI exchange in the summer to Orlando cost you and how much would the exchange fee to RCI cost you?

There were some mexican timeshares that had a set lifetime to the RTU- say 100 years and you could book nothing this year or you could take weeks from the end of the contract and full them forward. You still would have to pay the fee at the time you were redeeming the points. You can call it mf or you could call it something else but there was still a fee involved.

 

[VanX]

Hi,

To make it easier I responded in the body of your message quoted below.

So how much did you originally pay to buy this -

I purchased 2nd hand @20 % of what the original purchaser paid.

and how much do you pay on an annual basis -

No annual fee. Pay as you go only / RTU and the fee is the nightly discounted rate for all-inclusive for our contracted room class

if you stay either at your home resort -

It’s RTU so I have a fixed daily rate with all inclusive for my ocean view room category. <$250 per couple per day instead of >$600 a day posted rates.

or have them transfer points to RCI. -

$0.00 to transfer up to 240k points to RCI

Say this year you wanted to transfer 200,000 points to RCI -

I just did but at 240K

and are those actual RCI points -

RCI points

or some type of points that use a crossover grid to book with RCI. -

- ???

For example how many points would a typical 1 BR RCI exchange in the summer to Orlando cost you and how much would the exchange fee to RCI cost you?

- Whatever the RCI catalogue charges

There were some mexican timeshares that had a set lifetime to the RTU -

- yes I have that

say 100 years and you could book nothing this year or you could take weeks from the end of the contract and full them forward.

- Don’t know what the above means actually but I do have a limited contract lifespan (term of RTU) with a dedicated number of nights and each night is worth so many RCI points when exchanges externally from my home Resort(s).

You still would have to pay the fee at the time you were redeeming the points.

- I am a RCI member and pay what everyone else pays - yes!

You can call it mf or you could call it something else but there was still a fee involved

- Hmmm? Nope !

I do however have another contract that does have a maintenance fee but it’s actually just a down payment towards use and if I don’t travel to my home resort(s) in a year then it’s there as a credit for the next year. In fact when I purchased it second-hand it came with an annual MF credit so that was nice.

.

 

[kbw3377]

This is some sort of Vacation Club by RCI or made to look like one. It is about getting RCI points without owning a timeshare. I am doubtful about it but just can not find any info about it.

 

[rickandcindy23]

Was this a phone call you got, inviting you to a free dinner in your area? This is a scam operation that goes by many names, and they try to suck people in with a promise for points in RCI. RCI denies any ties to these groups. I went to one, and it was vague and no one would answer direct questions. They kept talking about exchanges for 7,500 points and how we could travel for 8 weeks with one ownership. That might be a part of a legitimate RCI membership, I already own RCI Points, but those low-point weeks are rare. Everyone cannot get those weeks, and I feel fortunate to get one of those discounted points vacations every few years. I got one this year at my home resort.

This is the process:
1. start a company with a generic name
2. check county records for timeshare owners
3. call timeshare owners and invite them for a $30 free dinner
4. lie to these invited timeshare owners because they are apparently too stupid to even own timeshare in the first place

 

[Egret1986]

This is some sort of Vacation Club by RCI or made to look like one. It is about getting RCI points without owning a timeshare. I am doubtful about it but just can not find any info about it.

You can't find info for a reason. It's BS. You should be more than doubtful.

Was this a phone call you got, inviting you to a free dinner in your area? This is a scam operation that goes by many names, and they try to suck people in with a promise for points in RCI. RCI denies any ties to these groups. I went to one, and it was vague and no one would answer direct questions. They kept talking about exchanges for 7,500 points and how we could travel for 8 weeks with one ownership. That might be a part of a legitimate RCI membership, I already own RCI Points, but those low-point weeks are rare. Everyone cannot get those weeks, and I feel fortunate to get one of those discounted points vacations every few years. I got one this year at my home resort.

This is the process:
1. start a company with a generic name
2. check county records for timeshare owners
3. call timeshare owners and invite them for a $30 free dinner
4. lie to these invited timeshare owners because they are apparently too stupid to even own timeshare in the first place

This is why they are successful at what they do. People just want to believe even when there's many obvious reasons that this isn't legit. This is what these scammers do. They obviously don't even have to be "pretty good" at it. This is sloppy stuff and the OP is still looking for info....but can't find any. OP may be "doubtful", but still wants to believe in something "too good to be true."

Don't add to their success story.

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[Jan M.]

Hi,

It’s RTU so I have a fixed daily rate with all inclusive for my ocean view room category. <$250 per couple per day instead of >$600 a day posted rates.

Okay am I missing something? $250 per couple per day seems like a price you can easily get without having to pay a large amount of money to join/belong/or buy into anything. Is this like when you stay at the timeshares and on the back of the door there is a chart for what the room could cost per night if you were renting a night from the resort. My husband looks at those charts and asks me if there are people who actually pay that to stay wherever we are staying at the time. I tell him the same thing every time. I don't know but maybe. And I remind him that is why I said we were buying a timeshare all those years ago so we would never have to pay ridiculous amounts of money to stay places on vacation. Anyone can get stays at the timeshares on sites like Expedia, Trip Advisor, Wyndham Extra Holidays, eBay and other places. Sometimes owners can find stays around the same price or even cheaper than their maintenance fees on the number of points needed to book those stays. And sometimes those stays cost a lot more than what their maintenance fees would be on the number of points needed for the stay.

Cruises and all inclusive resorts are something we can finally do now that my husband retired. Friends of ours love going to the all inclusive resorts and they advise staying at the higher end resorts. I've looked at the all inclusives on RCI, cheapcaribbean.com and a couple of other places. If we have to pay more than $250 a night for the two of us we will go to Vegas and eat anywhere we want, see shows we wouldn't normally spend that much money on tickets for or spend the money gambling. For $250 a night we can take great cruises. Because of where we live here in Florida we can get great deals on cruises. Two ports are very close to us and several others are within 1.5-3.5 hours driving distance.

 

[VanX]

Nope you are not missing anything - RTU is very different than deeded contracts but with the RCI points included in our contract I do hope to learn much from folks like yourself who travel at far more reasonable prices than most.

Watch for the all-inclusive deals with exchanging as they can be quite expensive by ccomparison to the non all-inclusive.

Again we bought 2nd hand so that’s 80% savings on the deal over what folks pay retail while on holiday. So pretty happy overall.

For us the <$250 a night is actually a good deal as we do stay at very luxurious locations with 4 —> 5 star level service on the all the inclusive food and drinks, let alone an actual butler and poolside service too.

Oh & yes those rates on the back of hotel doors are real and that I think is what drives many people to look for other ways to travel at more reasonable rates.

We do have cruise ships here in summer for trips to Alaska that are very reasonable and we’ve enjoyed them as well.

I hope to retire in 3 years and will try to use the time leading up to it for learning here on TUG.

Cheers & happy travels.

 

[Jan M.]

Nope you are not missing anything - RTU is very different than deeded contracts but with the RCI points included in our contract I do hope to learn much from folks like yourself who travel at far more reasonable prices than most.

Watch for the all-inclusive deals with exchanging as they can be quite expensive by ccomparison to the non all-inclusive.

Again we bought 2nd hand so that’s 80% savings on the deal over what folks pay retail while on holiday. So pretty happy overall.

For us the <$250 a night is actually a good deal as we do stay at very luxurious locations with 4 —> 5 star level service on the all the inclusive food and drinks, let alone an actual butler and poolside service too.

Oh & yes those rates on the back of hotel doors are real and that I think is what drives many people to look for other ways to travel at more reasonable rates.

We do have cruise ships here in summer for trips to Alaska that are very reasonable and we’ve enjoyed them as well.

I hope to retire in 3 years and will try to use the time leading up to it for learning here on TUG.

Cheers & happy travels.

Sounds like you got a fantastic deal and what you have works extremely well for you.

You may be able to answer this for me. When I see those deals on the different travel websites for the all inclusive resorts are there all kinds of add on charges and fees like with cruises? I've seen different sales on all inclusive resorts through RCI. What you pay RCI for the stay is really cheap but there is also an all inclusive fee that is paid at the resort. It can vary but the one I looked at recently was $60 per day per adult. I remember seeing something one time about several different prices for the all inclusive fee. A basic cost and a higher one that included higher end liquors and some other amenities.

 

[VanX]

Sounds like you got a fantastic deal and what you have works extremely well for you.

You may be able to answer this for me. When I see those deals on the different travel websites for the all inclusive resorts are there all kinds of add on charges and fees like with cruises?

There are some good threads on here about counting up all the costs including opportunity cost of points when doing all inclusive and from what I’ve seen I don’t expect that we will likely ever use RCI points for all inclusive holidays.

Seems to be better value in connecting with owners on TUG for the room rate and then just pay he all-inclusive fee.

Was reading about an optional all-inclusive fee ( maybe by the day and that seems possible ). To use points with RCI and pay the the all inclusive doesn’t seem to come in for less than through an owner and pay all cash.

Yes there are various levels of all inclusive fees.

I've seen different sales on all inclusive resorts through RCI. What you pay RCI for the stay is really cheap but there is also an all inclusive fee that is paid at the resort. It can vary but the one I looked at recently was $60 per day per adult. I remember seeing something one time about several different prices for the all inclusive fee. A basic cost and a higher one that included higher end liquors and some other amenities.