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RCI points basic question

Ninjaneer80

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I have a good understanding how Wyndham Points work and trying to find the best MPT etc...

1) For RCI points is it similar as it doesn't really matter where my home resort is If my goal is to use RCI points and stay at different places, etc... ?

2) I have no idea how to judge what is a healthy amount of points as I don't have access to see RCI points yet since I am not currently in points.

3) is being in RCI points better than using weeks ?

How do I determine amount of points / maint fees for my best bang for my buck?



Sorry if I am not asking the questions correctly
 
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1) It doesn't matter where the resort is.
2) I think Points is better if you want more flexibility- for instance, less than 7 nights' reservations (though there may be housekeeping fees)
3) Not better or worse, just more flexible. Points is just a different 'currency' to use making reservations.
 
There is one major difference. When doing searches on a weeks account in RCI you only see weeks inventory to book. When doing searches on a points account you see points inventory AND weeks inventory to book.
 
Thanks everyone , going to go after some resale points then.

I was looking at VV as I have them near me , but if it doesn't matter. I will start looking everywhere.

Any suggestions for some of the best places to get points for lowest maint fees and high point return ?
 
Is the market place some of the best ways to find them ?

Just trying to see the best way to get my hands on one.

We have 7 in the family , usually 5 of us travel and some times the older 2 will join us.

We are looking for options to be able to do vacation a couple times a year.

Is 100K of points a good starting point ?

Or should I bee looking around 192K points for 1k of maintenance a year ?
 
Thanks everyone , going to go after some resale points then.

I was looking at VV as I have them near me , but if it doesn't matter. I will start looking everywhere.

Any suggestions for some of the best places to get points for lowest maint fees and high point return ?
We generally consider a penny a point a good MF/RCI Point ratio. VV and Grandview Las Vegas are about as low cost as it gets. Unfortunately, the secret is out and that's driven the cost of these already converted TSs up. I haven't looked recently, but they DO show up on eBay, Redweek and in the TUG Marketplace from time to time. Just watch that those you bid on have been converted to Points as not all have been.
 
K, I have noticing that as well thanks for the tip.

I am off work this week , I will spend some quality time searching ....lol
 
@tschwa2 knows a lot about RCI Points in Massanutten.

Grandview in Vegas has some great point values for maintenance fees. After you nearly paid $20,000 for a small number of points, you are going to be thrilled paying $3,000 for a Grandview with low maintenance fees.

I don't get the Wyndham comment. RCI is owned by Wyndham but Wyndham points are a different system entirely.
 
@tschwa2 knows a lot about RCI Points in Massanutten.

Grandview in Vegas has some great point values for maintenance fees. After you nearly paid $20,000 for a small number of points, you are going to be thrilled paying $3,000 for a Grandview with low maintenance fees.

I don't get the Wyndham comment. RCI is owned by Wyndham but Wyndham points are a different system entirely.

All I was saying is I have a strong understanding how Wyndham point system works and looking for good deals if anyone want to explain RCI points and use analogies against Wyndham as I am a little RCI points dumb but I am starting to see what is considered good points / maint fees.

For explain I found a Florida VV 92K points for 1k maint a year, assuming that isn't to bad ?
 

If I wanted RCI Points at a low price, I would buy this one in a heartbeat. Good seller, great "Buy It Now" price, but bidding on it is preferable to possibly get it for a better price.
 

If I wanted RCI Points at a low price, I would buy this one in a heartbeat. Good seller, great "Buy It Now" price, but bidding on it is preferable to possibly get it for a better price.
That k you for the assistance on that !!
 
If you get RCI Points associated with a VV property then you can exchange to other VV properties at a slightly discounted rate. We even have a special telephone number within RCI to call to make reservations as a VV owner. We like the fact that stays of 8-13 nights are the same exchange fee as stays of 7 nights and now that we are retired we frequently enjoy the longer stays. You do need to search well in advance for them and not every resort allows longer stays.

We have 77K points and always get 3-5 vacations from them, each 7-13 nights long but we dont need to stay in Gold Crown resorts (sometimes we do end up in one) or anywhere in prime time. We could easily burn through all the points in one stay, but we prefer more and longer stays to get more for our maintenance fee.

~Diane
 
You would definitely want something that gives you an RCI points account not a weeks account. There's a big difference in the available inventory.

We own several RCI point weeks at Grandview at Las Vegas. The 122k point two bedroom weeks with 2023 maintenance fees of $910 or the 61k point one bedroom weeks with 2023 maintenance fees of $455 are the highest point weeks. You can frequently find cheap or even almost free deals deals the 98k two bedroom weeks or the 49k one bedroom weeks. There are also lower point weeks too but since you pay the same maintenance fees regardless of how many points the unit size gets I wouldn't go any lower than the 98k/49k point weeks.

If you're patient you'll find a decent deal on the higher point weeks so you could hold out for them. However there was someone giving away a 98k point week in the Bargain Deals and Giveaways. They were paying the closing costs, resort transfer fee and the 2023 maintenance fees. We started out with 98k point weeks and rehomed them after I eventually found 122k point weeks at a price I was willing to pay. Back when I bought the 98k point weeks the 122k point weeks were going for $2500-$3800. The cheapest one I saw, and sadly missed out on, was $900.

Here's my rule of thumb for RCI points weeks. It's a little different for Wyndham points if you've seen me post in the Wyndham forum. Five years or less to recover the purchase price based on the maintenance fee per point ratio is a no brainer. 6-8 years, I'd have to run the numbers and think it over. Over 8 years, I'm out because I'd be willing to wait for a better deal.

As an owner at Grandview, a Vacation Village property, you get two weeks a year that you can book within 45 days of check in. They don't require any points to book, you just pay the exchange fee. The inventory available in those VV weeks is significantly better than what's available in the Last Call weeks.

I think the two or four bedroom weeks at Regal Vistas in Massanutten might be a little better point/maintenance fee ratio but you'll pay more for them. There's another resort somewhere in the U.S. I've seen mentioned that also has a better point ratio but at the moment I can't recall the name of the resort. Hopefully someone else will remember and post it.

Since you'd be a new RCI points owner you should ask if the seller is keeping their RCI points account. If they aren't the account can be transferred to you which would save you some money. Once in awhile you'll see a seller paying the cost of a new account $222 or the $98 fee to add the points week to the buyers existing points account. It's more typical for the buyer to pay that so if it's included take that into consideration when you're looking at how much a seller is asking.
 
You would definitely want something that gives you an RCI points account not a weeks account. There's a big difference in the available inventory.

We own several RCI point weeks at Grandview at Las Vegas. The 122k point two bedroom weeks with 2023 maintenance fees of $910 or the 61k point one bedroom weeks with 2023 maintenance fees of $455 are the highest point weeks. You can frequently find cheap or even almost free deals deals the 98k two bedroom weeks or the 49k one bedroom weeks. There are also lower point weeks too but since you pay the same maintenance fees regardless of how many points the unit size gets I wouldn't go any lower than the 98k/49k point weeks.

If you're patient you'll find a decent deal on the higher point weeks so you could hold out for them. However there was someone giving away a 98k point week in the Bargain Deals and Giveaways. They were paying the closing costs, resort transfer fee and the 2023 maintenance fees. We started out with 98k point weeks and rehomed them after I eventually found 122k point weeks at a price I was willing to pay. Back when I bought the 98k point weeks the 122k point weeks were going for $2500-$3800. The cheapest one I saw, and sadly missed out on, was $900.

Here's my rule of thumb for RCI points weeks. It's a little different for Wyndham points if you've seen me post in the Wyndham forum. Five years or less to recover the purchase price based on the maintenance fee per point ratio is a no brainer. 6-8 years, I'd have to run the numbers and think it over. Over 8 years, I'm out because I'd be willing to wait for a better deal.

As an owner at Grandview, a Vacation Village property, you get two weeks a year that you can book within 45 days of check in. They don't require any points to book, you just pay the exchange fee. The inventory available in those VV weeks is significantly better than what's available in the Last Call weeks.

I think the two or four bedroom weeks at Regal Vistas in Massanutten might be a little better point/maintenance fee ratio but you'll pay more for them. There's another resort somewhere in the U.S. I've seen mentioned that also has a better point ratio but at the moment I can't recall the name of the resort. Hopefully someone else will remember and post it.

Since you'd be a new RCI points owner you should ask if the seller is keeping their RCI points account. If they aren't the account can be transferred to you which would save you some money. Once in awhile you'll see a seller paying the cost of a new account $222 or the $98 fee to add the points week to the buyers existing points account. It's more typical for the buyer to pay that so if it's included take that into consideration when you're looking at how much a seller is asking.

Yeah I have read.your post on Wyndham and I have 2 pages worth of notes how to navigate Wyndham but RCI points is the new beast for me to master. Those suggestions you mentioned about the points / maint ratio I was starting to notice so thanks for clarifying.

I am currently a weeks owner at VV, and looking to pick up points with in VV. They suckered Me into trading in my weeks in for a wood stone property which I am a out to recind tomorrow morning.
 
I recently purchased a one bedroom at Grandview Las Vegas for about $300. It is a 98, 000 point property and it came with 196, 000 points transferred over. Just got the bill for MF and it is $910. I live in Los Angeles so won't get much use out of the VV extras but I have several trips booked with the free points. For me, New York and Washington DC are the highlights, though it appears that there is very little about the NY Hilton property that is timeshare-like. Kitchenette is comprised of a coffee maker. Still - it comes to about $100 per night for prime hotel room in central Manhattan. I think I could have held out for the 122, 000 point property but the free points were a sizeable inducement. Here is the listing of RCI points chart to give you an idea of what you can get if you are not doing last minute: https://www.rci.com/static/docs/en_US/pow/help/rci-points-grids.html
 
I recently purchased a one bedroom at Grandview Las Vegas for about $300. It is a 98, 000 point property and it came with 196, 000 points transferred over. Just got the bill for MF and it is $910. I live in Los Angeles so won't get much use out of the VV extras but I have several trips booked with the free points. For me, New York and Washington DC are the highlights, though it appears that there is very little about the NY Hilton property that is timeshare-like. Kitchenette is comprised of a coffee maker. Still - it comes to about $100 per night for prime hotel room in central Manhattan. I think I could have held out for the 122, 000 point property but the free points were a sizeable inducement. Here is the listing of RCI points chart to give you an idea of what you can get if you are not doing last minute: https://www.rci.com/static/docs/en_US/pow/help/rci-points-grids.html

98,000 points with 2023 maintenance fees of $910 is a two bedroom not a one bedroom.

The 2021 and 2022 maintenance fees were $877. So you got $1,754 worth of points for about $300. That's an excellent deal!

Here's my math on your purchase. Using the 2023 maintenance fees of $910 that makes the cost per point $0.007459 on a 122k point week. Multiply that by 24,000 points (the difference between 122,000 and 98,000 points) and you get $179.02 rounded up. Then divide $1,454 (the value of two years points minus the approximate $300 you paid) by $179.02 and you get 8.12. That's how many years it will be before it would be worthwhile to own a 122k week over the 98k point week.

If at any time before 8.12 years you find a good deal on a 122k point two bedroom week or a 61k one bedroom week you'd be money ahead. Say you find someone to take your 98k point week for $550 or even split that cost. I'm saying $550 because I paid LT Transfers $293.55 in September to handle a Grandview week I sold and $250 for the resort transfer fee. Even splitting the costs at $275 means the 98k week you bought cost you nothing for those 196k/$1754 worth of points. That's one sweet deal!
 
From what I have been reading , something like this looks decide as well ? Not as good as examples you gave but pretty close. Thoughts ?

 
From what I have been reading , something like this looks decide as well ? Not as good as examples you gave but pretty close. Thoughts ?


That would be a good one if it's still available and the maintenance fees have been kept current. The information mentions the 2021 maintenance fees have been paid so this might be an old ad.
 
That would be a good one if it's still available and the maintenance fees have been kept current. The information mentions the 2021 maintenance fees have been paid so this might be an old ad.
Ahhh good point I read it to fast , but thank you for letting me know if that ad isn't old that it would be a good one.

I will keep an eye out , the suggested eBay one I am watching also.
 
Ahhh good point I read it to fast , but thank you for letting me know if that ad isn't old that it would be a good one.

I will keep an eye out , the suggested eBay one I am watching also.

SMTN has so many ads that this one might still be available. It wouldn't hurt to ask.
 
SMTN has so many ads that this one might still be available. It wouldn't hurt to ask.
Thanks ! I sent them a message asking , let's see what they say.
 
I've seen that some have mentioned getting multiple weeks out of a 98,000 points ownership. But, I've also noticed they have been mentioning those multiple weeks are in 1 bedroom units. With you typically traveling with 5 or more you won't get the same number of weeks of vacation.

Keep that in mind when deciding what to buy. You may get 2, possibly 3 (but I doubt it), weeks out of a 98k unit because you are going to need to reserve 2 bedroom units. The points needed for those are higher.

With that in mind you definitely need a 2br unit at Grandview. The deal you mentioned with 98k points is a good deal. Also take a look at the Colonies at Williamsburg for a 2br. It's also a VV resort but there are some weeks that get you more than the 122k for a Grandview 2br. The maintenance fee will be the same. That's because VV bases maintenance fees on number of bedrooms (2 vs 1) and NOT on season (high vs low). It's RCI that bases number of points based on unit size AND season plus demand.

The one thing that's nice about most VV resorts is the floor plan. A 2br is actually 2 - 1 bedroom units with a common entry vestibule with each unit having a secured entry within the vestibule. Each 1 br unit sleeps 4 people, has its own full kitchen, and full bath. That means the capacity for a 2br unit is 8 people not 6 as some resorts are.
 
I've seen that some have mentioned getting multiple weeks out of a 98,000 points ownership. But, I've also noticed they have been mentioning those multiple weeks are in 1 bedroom units. With you typically traveling with 5 or more you won't get the same number of weeks of vacation.

Keep that in mind when deciding what to buy. You may get 2, possibly 3 (but I doubt it), weeks out of a 98k unit because you are going to need to reserve 2 bedroom units. The points needed for those are higher.

With that in mind you definitely need a 2br unit at Grandview. The deal you mentioned with 98k points is a good deal. Also take a look at the Colonies at Williamsburg for a 2br. It's also a VV resort but there are some weeks that get you more than the 122k for a Grandview 2br. The maintenance fee will be the same. That's because VV bases maintenance fees on number of bedrooms (2 vs 1) and NOT on season (high vs low). It's RCI that bases number of points based on unit size AND season plus demand.

The one thing that's nice about most VV resorts is the floor plan. A 2br is actually 2 - 1 bedroom units with a common entry vestibule with each unit having a secured entry within the vestibule. Each 1 br unit sleeps 4 people, has its own full kitchen, and full bath. That means the capacity for a 2br unit is 8 people not 6 as some resorts are.

Great tip !! I will keep looking , I saw a couple in he 140-150K range as well from around 1-1100 in maint fees.

Even if I got 2 weeks out the year would be great , good news is we are also great at deciding going last minute as well , so hopefully we squeeze some extra time in casue is that ...lol
 
Great tip !! I will keep looking , I saw a couple in he 140-150K range as well from around 1-1100 in maint fees.

Even if I got 2 weeks out the year would be great , good news is we are also great at deciding going last minute as well , so hopefully we squeeze some extra time in casue is that ...lol
If you can go last minute then Vacation Village has a perk you'll love. Within RCI VV owners get a bonus week each year. With that bonus week you can book a "last minute" vacation for just the cost of an exchange fee. No points required. But you can only book those within 45 days of check in.
 
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