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RARP (Reciprocal Advance Reservation Priority)

I apologize for using the incorrect term (reciprocal is correct, not reverse). I also apologize to Braindead that I did not realize his/her statement was "clearly" limited only to Clearwater. Still I'm glad I started this thread because I for one did not realize that there are two types of RARP, one contract-based and the other VIP-based. Since I am a lowly resale owner, I did not know anything about the VIP-based one. That's why I love TUG! Always something to learn!
 
CWA has some 70resorts as a home resort. RARP are not good for your home resort. So does that mean if you have all CWA, you cannot use your RARP at any of those resorts? It did under the old system. If you have both select and CWA, are all resorts available For RARP TOTHE EXTENT OF YOUR SELECT NUMBER OF POINTS?

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raygo123 said:
CWA has some 70resorts as a home resort. RARP are not good for your home resort. So does that mean if you have all CWA, you cannot use your RARP at any of those resorts? It did under the old system. If you have both select and CWA, are all resorts available For RARP TOTHE EXTENT OF YOUR SELECT NUMBER OF POINTS?

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There is no RARP at your home resort. You already have ARP at your home resort.
CWA has ARP benefits at all CWA resorts.
Not sure what your saying. Please clarify
 
Given what you just said, if under ARP there is no availability. So at 11 months you still want to go to one of the CWA resorts. Can you use. A RARP TO BOOK AT 11 months if all you have are CWA points? Now, if you have both CWA and select you can up to the number of select points you own?

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raygo123 said:
Given what you just said, if under ARP there is no availability. So at 11 months you still want to go to one of the CWA resorts. Can you use. A RARP TO BOOK AT 11 months if all you have are zCWA points? Now, if you have both CWA and select you can up to the number of select points you own?

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ARP is from 10-13 months. You are still using your ARP benefit at 11 months.
 
I think the idea is that we've been operating under the assumption that for ARP purposes, CWA and deeded inventory are separate for the same resort from 13 to 10 months. In some cases, CWA may have very little inventory at a resort, and a CWA owner might not be able to get an ARP reservation at that resort at, say, 12 months. But if they're VIP gold or platinum, are they able to use a RARP to make a reservation within the deeded inventory at that same resort at 11 months?
 
Per Wyndham, in a situation where all of you points are Club Wyndham Access points and you want ARP at a resort that is both Club Wyndham Access and Club Wyndham Plus resort (assuming the RARP reservation that is being used is one of the Gold or Platinum RARPs) can be used on the Club Wyndham Plus side at the 11 month point (assuming there is availability on the CWP side).
 
paxsarah said:
I think the idea is that we've been operating under the assumption that for ARP purposes, CWA and deeded inventory are separate for the same resort from 13 to 10 months. In some cases, CWA may have very little inventory at a resort, and a CWA owner might not be able to get an ARP reservation at that resort at, say, 12 months. But if they're VIP gold or platinum, are they able to use a RARP to make a reservation within the deeded inventory at that same resort at 11 months?
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Interesting question. The only way to know would be a CWA Gold or Platinum member make a reservation and see a reduction in their RARP reservations available
 
Yes but at 11 months you have access to All resorst units not just CWA inventory

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Braindead said:
The question that started all of this.

How can you get RARP at Clearwater Beach? NOT a single poster has showed any other way than to be VIP Gold or Platinum. I’ll add being Presidential Reserve although I’m pretty sure you had to buy those points from Wyndham also.
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Not sure why we are arguing again about Clearwater in this thread, when comments about Clearwater are best posted in that other thread. Having arguments run across multiple threads is confusing to those who do not follow every thread.

But since Braindead is seemingly seeking validation, I agree that he is correct in regard to his original point that it was not practical to suggest that the OP could acquire RARP rights at Clearwater. Given how costly that would be.

Because the actual the question that started all of this had nothing at all to do with ARP. In the other thread the OP simply asked if he needed to buy points from the developer to stay at Clearwater Beach. And a more complete response from Avisio that would have prevented all this quibbling.

I highlight that point because I think it is important that we realize that many questions here are from people who will/might interact with sales in immediate future. And the answers given can easily be relayed back to sales, and could create opportunities for sales to exploit. And I think we can all agree that we dont want to do that. For we definitely would not want the OP to spend $140k because someone on TUG told him he needed RARP to get into Clearwater. That would cause Brian's "money saved" counter to go down, and he would be sad. So do it for Brian. :D
 
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ecwinch said:
Not sure why we are arguing again about Clearwater in this thread, when comments about Clearwater are best posted in that other thread. Having arguments run across multiple threads is confusing to those who do not follow every thread.

But since Braindead is seemingly seeking validation, I agree that he is correct in regard to his original point that it was not practical to suggest that the OP could acquire RARP rights at Clearwater. Given how costly that would be.

Because the actually the question that started all of this had nothing at all to do with ARP. In the other thread the OP simply asked if he needed to buy points from the developer to stay at Clearwater Beach. And a more complete response from Avisio that would have prevented all this quibbling.

I highlight that point because I think it is important that we realize that many questions here are from people who will/might interact with sales in immediate future. And the answers given can easily be relayed back to sales, and could create opportunities for sales to exploit. And I think we can all agree that we dont want to do that. For we definitely would not want the OP to spend $140k because someone on TUG told him he needed RARP to get into Clearwater. That would cause Brian's "money saved" counter to go down, and he would be sad. So do it for Brian. :D
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I posted that because the OP ACCUSED me of posting misinformation in the other thread TITLED Clearwater Beach and that was the only resort discussed in the thread. OP used my statement on the other thread to start this one
 
Not trying to stir the pot, but this thread has more hits than the other one and I learned stuff I did not know along the way. Thanks to the OP.
 
Exactly. And i have been doing that. We are booked into clearwater one bedrm the 23rd of February for a week. In this case it was booked before the new site. RARP at 11 months.

By the same token being all CWA point owners could not use their RARP say at old town alexandria because it is their home resort. Where a select owner can.

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Avislo said:
Per Wyndham, in a situation where all of you points are Club Wyndham Access points and you want ARP at a resort that is both Club Wyndham Access and Club Wyndham Plus resort (assuming the RARP reservation that is being used is one of the Gold or Platinum RARPs) can be used on the Club Wyndham Plus side at the 11 month point (assuming there is availability on the CWP side).
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Exactly. See previous post

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CruiseGuy said:
ARP is Advance Reservation Priority at 11-13 months out at your home resort, or with CWA inventory for those with CWA. Presidential Reserve ARP gives you access to PR units at your home resort from 13-14 months (technically 11-14 months).

There are basically 3 kinds of RARP (Reciprocal ARP):
1. RARP on certain deeded contracts allows you ARP 11 months out at a named resort. I have a Bonnet Creek contract that gives me RARP at the Branson Meadows resort and another BC contract that gives me RARP at Nashville. The membership directory does not discuss this type of RARP, but it now shows up under your ownership on the new system when you have it on your contract.
2. VIP RARP (Gold [1 per yr] and Platinum [2 per yr]) that allows you limited RARP reservations at 11 months other Wyndham resorts. This is the "official" definition of RARP in the last published membership directory.
3. Presidential Reserve RARP allows you to use your PR points to make RARP reservations at 11-12 months for PR units at resorts other than your home resort. This is discussed under the PR section of the last directory, but not under the definition.
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This explains why I see RARP on my new-to-me Bonnet Creek resale contract, RARP is also at Branson Meadows. I doubt we'll ever use that RARP, but it is nice to know why it shows up on my contract.
 
Im wondering if RARP overrides VIP BOOKING WINDOW foe Margaritaville?

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Gold can book Margaritaville at 8 months. But can you use a RARP at 11 months?

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Margaritaville St Thomas is not showing any availability for me for the next year. I can not test this one.
 
Have only looked at a couple and yes I could. Will check another one and get back.

Update: Looked at Wyndham Old Town Alexandria and found this online:

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2. Check-In DateDec 03, 2018
3. Checkout DateDec 06, 2018

Select Available Unit
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    2 Bedroom Deluxe VIP Benefits Apply UNIT DETAILS

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    3 Bedroom Presidential VIP Benefits Apply UNIT DETAILS
 
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