RARP (Reciprocal Advance Reservation Priority)

[puppymommo]

I just wanted to clear up some misinformation about RARP posted on a different thread. The reason I am not replying on the original thread is that the thread is in response to a newbie question and I think the RARP issue is just confusing to the OP.

Anyway, it was stated that "if you are VIP Gold or Platinum you get some RARP reservation transactions. But that takes a minimum of 700,000 points bought directly from Wyndham for Gold or 1,000,000 points for Platinum." This in incorrect. RARP is not based on the size of contract and is not limited to VIP ownership. For example, I own a 154,000 biennial resale contract at Wyndham Kingsgate. It gives me RARP at Wyndham Pagosa.

 

[ausman]

Reciprocal not reverse is what you are referring to.?

 

[Braindead]

I just wanted to clear up some misinformation about RARP posted on a different thread. The reason I am not replying on the original thread is that the thread is in response to a newbie question and I think the RARP issue is just confusing to the OP.

Anyway, it was stated that "if you are VIP Gold or Platinum you get some RARP reservation transactions. But that takes a minimum of 700,000 points bought directly from Wyndham for Gold or 1,000,000 points for Platinum." This in incorrect. RARP is not based on the size of contract and is not limited to VIP ownership. For example, I own a 154,000 biennial resale contract at Wyndham Kingsgate. It gives me RARP at Wyndham Pagosa.

The other thread was specifically about Clearwater Beach. I thought all of us could agree on that

 

[wjappraise]

Reverse? Clear as mud.
I tried Reciprocal ARP for this resort (Clearwater). No success. So the anecdotal evidence suggests Braindead is accurate

 

[Avislo]

You may want to try a RARP by calling in and reporting that you could not do it and see if they can do it for you. I just checked again with slightly different dates and it is still working for me.

2. Check-In DateDec 07, 2018
3. Checkout DateDec 14, 2018
4. Unit1 Bedroom Deluxe

7 Nights For
224,000 Points

 

[erniecrews]

Reverse? Clear as mud.
I tried Reciprocal ARP for this resort (Clearwater). No success. So the anecdotal evidence suggests Braindead is accurate

I just queried Clearwater starting Jan 8th 2019 and there was plenty of availability for Presidential Reserve, but nothing else.

 

[jerrybev]

I do not understand what reverse ARP is about. Can someone please explain it?
also does it reply to all resorts? We are platinum.
thank you, Jerrybev

 

[Avislo]

ARP is advanced reservation priority and RARP is reciprocal advanced reservation priority (the actual names of what you are asking about). The use of the word "reverse" was used by a understandable mistake it was meant to be reciprocal and not reverse. The terms meanings are in the Club Wyndham plus directory.

 

[ecwinch]

I do not understand what reverse ARP is about. Can someone please explain it?
also does it reply to all resorts? We are platinum.
thank you, Jerrybev

Everyone in Club Wyndham can book 0-10 months out.

In general ARP is the ability to book a resort you own at during the ARP booking window of 10-13 months out.
In general RARP is a VIP benefit that allows VIP members to book at almost any Club Wyndham resort they do not own at, at the 10-11 month mark.

In the course of this discussion, it has come out that that certain contracts exist that have RARP rights at another resort. If those are RARP or ARP is a little cloudy, but it enables them to book during the ARP window without being a VIP member.

 

[wjappraise]

I just queried Clearwater starting Jan 8th 2019 and there was plenty of availability for Presidential Reserve, but nothing else.

Presidential Reserve is a unique booking circumstance that allows booking up to 12 months (seems to be working up to 14 months even though it shouldn't) at other PR resorts in PR rooms. So it's not the true test of RARP.

 

[Avislo]

Hope the following clears up the little cloud on the issue of "If those are RARP or ARP is a little cloudy".

- Go to your on line account.
- Click ownership details.
- Click on contract number.
- If there is a RARP associated with the contract number a header will appear that states "RECIPROCAL RESORTS More Information".
- Under the heading, the RARP resort name will appear.


USE YEAR END DATE xxxxxxxxxxx POINTS OWNED xxxxxxxxxxx CONTRACT DETAILS Reciprocal ARP, UDI
OWNERS xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
HOME RESORT

Wyndham Smoky Mountains
Sevierville, TN

RECIPROCAL RESORTS
More Information
Wyndham Ocean Boulevard
North Myrtle Beach ,SC

 

[OutSkiing]

Everyone in Club Wyndham can book 0-10 months out.

In general ARP is the ability to book a resort you own at during the ARP booking window of 10-13 months out.
In general RARP is a VIP benefit that allows VIP members to book at almost any Club Wyndham resort they do not own at, at the 10-12 month mark.

In the course of this discussion, it has come out that that certain contracts exist that have RARP rights at another resort. If those are RARP or ARP is a little cloudy, but it enables them to book during the ARP window without being a VIP member.

I second this answer. And add (from a prior thread) that those 'certain contracts that have RARP rights at another resort' probably came into existence as an extra incentive to sell certain resorts perhaps because the contract being sold was not ready to occupy yet do the single resort RARP rider was added on.

Also, for the gold / platinum kind of RARP, I can confirm that as of mid 2017 after the new site came up, nobody not even owner care or Wyndham IT could make a RARP reservation. They claimed to be fixing the problem but the RARP reservation window passed for our travel dates before it was fixed. Didn't matter to us because we got our reservation in the 10 month window anyway.

Bob

 

[Avislo]

VIP Reciprocal ARP (Gold and Platinum) reservation window is 10 to 11 months. Please see page 344 of the member's directory.

 

[Dave Landry]

I just wanted to clear up some misinformation about RARP posted on a different thread. The reason I am not replying on the original thread is that the thread is in response to a newbie question and I think the RARP issue is just confusing to the OP.

Anyway, it was stated that "if you are VIP Gold or Platinum you get some RARP reservation transactions. But that takes a minimum of 700,000 points bought directly from Wyndham for Gold or 1,000,000 points for Platinum." This in incorrect. RARP is not based on the size of contract and is not limited to VIP ownership. For example, I own a 154,000 biennial resale contract at Wyndham Kingsgate. It gives me RARP at Wyndham Pagosa.

It's reciprocal because your contract was probably originally purchased from sales at Pagosa. VIP accounts get RARP at many locations not just one.

 

[CruiseGuy]

ARP is Advance Reservation Priority at 11-13 months out at your home resort, or with CWA inventory for those with CWA. Presidential Reserve ARP gives you access to PR units at your home resort from 13-14 months (technically 11-14 months).

There are basically 3 kinds of RARP (Reciprocal ARP):
1. RARP on certain deeded contracts allows you ARP 11 months out at a named resort. I have a Bonnet Creek contract that gives me RARP at the Branson Meadows resort and another BC contract that gives me RARP at Nashville. The membership directory does not discuss this type of RARP, but it now shows up under your ownership on the new system when you have it on your contract.
2. VIP RARP (Gold [1 per yr] and Platinum [2 per yr]) that allows you limited RARP reservations at 11 months other Wyndham resorts. This is the "official" definition of RARP in the last published membership directory.
3. Presidential Reserve RARP allows you to use your PR points to make RARP reservations at 11-12 months for PR units at resorts other than your home resort. This is discussed under the PR section of the last directory, but not under the definition.

 

[ecwinch]

VIP Reciprocal ARP (Gold and Platinum) reservation window is 10 to 11 months. Please see page 344 of the member's directory.

Thanks for providing the correct info. I'll update my post.

 

[Avislo]

You are welcome.

 

[brigian]

Hope the following clears up the little cloud on the issue of "If those are RARP or ARP is a little cloudy".

- Go to your on line account.
- Click ownership details.
- Click on contract number.
- If there is a RARP associated with the contract number a header will appear that states "RECIPROCAL RESORTS More Information".
- Under the heading, the RARP resort name will appear.


USE YEAR END DATE xxxxxxxxxxx POINTS OWNED xxxxxxxxxxx CONTRACT DETAILS Reciprocal ARP, UDI
OWNERS xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
HOME RESORT

Wyndham Smoky Mountains
Sevierville, TN

RECIPROCAL RESORTS
More Information
Wyndham Ocean Boulevard
North Myrtle Beach ,SC

Huh , you learn something new everyday. Not that it matters but I just did what you suggested and realized my Smoky Mountains contract has RARP at Fairfield Glade. Would that be common ? Would all Smoky owners have that?
Thanks

 

[Avislo]

In my experience, no, for the type of RARP being discussed here pertaining to contract ARP. It happens or happened if a deeded UDI contract was bought at one location for a different location. The selling location gets the RARP and the home resort goes to where the deed is. I do not know if they still do this or not. My Club Wyndham Access contract does not show a RARP. My Towers on the Grove deeded contract shows one.

 

[Braindead]

The question that started all of this.

How can you get RARP at Clearwater Beach? NOT a single poster has showed any other way than to be VIP Gold or Platinum. I’ll add being Presidential Reserve although I’m pretty sure you had to buy those points from Wyndham also.

Yes Avislo can post correct information at times when he slows down and post direct information. This thread has been his best thread in my opinion.

 

[Braindead]

I just wanted to clear up some misinformation about RARP posted on a different thread. The reason I am not replying on the original thread is that the thread is in response to a newbie question and I think the RARP issue is just confusing to the OP.

Anyway, it was stated that "if you are VIP Gold or Platinum you get some RARP reservation transactions. But that takes a minimum of 700,000 points bought directly from Wyndham for Gold or 1,000,000 points for Platinum." This in incorrect. RARP is not based on the size of contract and is not limited to VIP ownership. For example, I own a 154,000 biennial resale contract at Wyndham Kingsgate. It gives me RARP at Wyndham Pagosa.

Please read the above post and tell me how I posted misinformation. Thread was clearly on Clearwater Beach

 

[Avislo]

At a minimum, even if you limit the context of your remark to Clearwater and VIP Gold and Platinum, there are a number of ways more than one poster has described that do not require the buying of 700,000 or 1 million points from Wyndham.

 

[Braindead]

At a minimum, even if you limit the context of your remark to Clearwater and VIP Gold and Platinum, there are a number of ways more than one poster has described that do not require the buying of 700,000 or 1 million points from Wyndham.

I give you credit. Then you post this. Please tell me how any poster in this thread has found any other way to get RARP at CLEARWATER BEACH OTHER THAN TO BE VIP GOLD OR PLATINUM. PR reserve bought from Wyndham is still Platinum benefits outside of PR rooms
One step forward with you. Two steps back. I couldn’t believe I give you credit when I reread my post

 

[sandkastle4966]

The question that started all of this.

How can you get RARP at Clearwater Beach? NOT a single poster has showed any other way than to be VIP Gold or Platinum. I’ll add being Presidential Reserve although I’m pretty sure you had to buy those points from Wyndham also.

To answer this DIRECT question - it was in the list above. If you bought Clearwater from another resort, you can have ARP at one resort and RARP at the second resort. (In my experience, it was because the resort was under construction and you could not get a deed from something that wasn't complete. Thus the deed was issued at resort 1)

 

[Braindead]

To answer this DIRECT question - it was in the list above. If you bought Clearwater from another resort, you can have ARP at one resort and RARP at the second resort. (In my experience, it was because the resort was under construction and you could not get a deed from something that wasn't complete. Thus the deed was issued at resort 1)

Is Clearwater Beach sold at another resort with RARP at Clearwater Beach as in your scenario?
As far as I know the answer is no. I stand by my statement.
If Wyndham never offered a contract with RARP at Clearwater Beach in your scenario and as discussed in this thread. It would be impossible for that to happen then