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Punished for Peak ownership

JLB

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FWIW, long before any corrections, my Inside Guy said stuff like:

"I am not sure that tug influences trading power. my comment was that
bragging on tug raises awareness of ineffeciences of the rci economic
system to a group that you don't want to know about this such as sales and
marketing . . .

"I really don't think that tug comments and bragging have directly
influenced trading power. I think there have been instances where trading
power was miscalculated and perhaps tug expediated the fix...
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"I think the older we get as a company the more real our data becomes..

"I think in reality our ability to process data mirrors society's ability to transmit data
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". . .warn you that as you share information with a core group of timesharers that youa re sharing with others resorts, salespeople, managemetn companies and other timeshare owners who do not pay membership."


"I can tell you that sometimes tug is its own worst enemy as the resorts
> > read the board and they hate reading about all the blue week trades into
>prime (weeks) etc. I have specifically had resorts call me because of tug
> > postings and demand answers, want changes etc."


Even the beloved Bootleg made his comments:

" Gold Crown or not, if it was one of the tens of thousands of inexpensive SA weeks that have flooded the exchange system since 2001 . . . it probably wouldn't have been able to trade for Sanibel/Captiva/Marco et al.
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"Many owners purchased in South Africa because the initial cost and ongoing maintenance costs are lower than domestic resorts and they have decent trade power. However, some of them have noticed a trend in the business that indicates their SA weeks don't trade as well as they used to.

"This is largely due to a supply/demand calculation that the determines the relative trade power of timeshares as they become more numerous in the marketplace.


So it's not like this snuck up on us.
 

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I'm not a peak owner but did ask an RCI guide why there was such a difference in the trading power of my 2 Durban Sands (06 and 07). I posted the reply on another post but its so priceless I have to post it again.....

Its probably because there was a convention or something like that which made your first week so valuable. I guess there's nothing exciting happening at the resort in 2007.

I never know whether to laugh or cry when I think about that reply!

Diane
 

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DianeH said:
I'm not a peak owner but did ask an RCI guide why there was such a difference in the trading power of my 2 Durban Sands (06 and 07). I posted the reply on another post but its so priceless I have to post it again.....

Its probably because there was a convention or something like that which made your first week so valuable. I guess there's nothing exciting happening at the resort in 2007.

I never know whether to laugh or cry when I think about that reply!

Diane

It's stories like these that make one suspect that RCI is playing crooked with the actual trade power of SA units.

When people are playing straight and fair and square with you, they don't need to make up lies.

And when they make up lies (like this VC did), then you begin to wonder what it is they are trying to cover for.

Remind everyone once again that this massive degradation in SA trade power occured simultaneously with the massive proliferation of looting of the exchange pool by RCI for rentals. Of course they are connected, if only in the general sense that looting the pool for rentals degrades EVERY weeks exchange power. The only question is whether SA weeks have been targeted disproportionately compared to other weeks around the world.

This very thread is strong evidence that they have. Think about it. It is only common sense that these "peak" weeks, occuring, as they do, during school holidays in SA, are going to be in higher demand than any others, simply because that is when people are going to vacation with their families, just like everywhere else in the world.

But yet we have many reports of these PEAK weeks with little or no trade power whatsoever, or, at any rate, no better than red or even white weeks at the same resorts. How come?
 

Rmelnyk

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I have a 2 bedroom GC red week (7) Castleburn...received San Clemente Inn as the best they could do...I can no longer pull Hawaii at this time...
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ChuckAK

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After all the problems you all had with your South Africa weeks I was just a little worried about my two weeks in Sudwala. My two weeks (one white Sept. and one super red, Xmas) always traded satisfactorily for Jan/Feb in Florida and the Southwest. The white (a little pink maybe) week trades about the same or maybe less than it did before. I am one happy camper though with my Xmas week. It is my best trader.

I don't subscribe to the conspiracy theory for RCI. I am troubled about some of the direction Cendant has taken. However, a conspiracy of the imagined magnitude would very difficult to pull off. As an aside, I wonder why an unknown timeshare individual reached by phone in SA has the credibility of God and our RCI rep is never trusted. :>) :ignore:

One additional aside; I am just as pleased as anyone can be with Niky Watt from Sudwala in South Africa. The communication is excellent. I just wish my US weeks were as efficient.

JOMHO
 
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