Presidential Reserve

[VacayKat]

Adding to the thread with the ‘perks’ at Canterbury With PR.
The first thing I note is full kitchens are only in presidential rooms - if that matters.
there was a nice welcome card with a couple of snacks, playing cards and a bottle of wine. Also robes and upgraded toiletries. In the bedroom were two higher end bottles of water and truffles. Tv has Bose speakers.
Parking can’t be comped because it’s an independent garage. [Also if anyone stays here and parks, you have to tell the parking attendant you want in and out privileges and prepay. The front desk didn't tell us this and made it seem like the garage would just know- they didn't]

 

[southwestmagnolia]

I am PR at Emerald Grand and they still have one amenity per day if the owner is present on the property. As Jan stated, you can ask for PR robes and they will bring them to you. Also, they will bring extra towels coffee etc to your room upon request. Was just there in early March and stayed in a 4 bdrm on harbor side. There is a lot of renovation going on. They are adding a sales office and also upgrading the pool area. The PR units are still closed but I was told they may be ready in May of 2021. Also, at Avon, they provide an AMX card for $150 and comp the parking for PR if owner is on site. In the unit they provide 2 bottles of wine and snacks and master bdrm has bose music, high end water robes and chocolates. They did have breakfast each morning for PR but with Covid that went away.

 

[bendadin]

I am PR at Emerald Grand and they still have one amenity per day if the owner is present on the property. As Jan stated, you can ask for PR robes and they will bring them to you. Also, they will bring extra towels coffee etc to your room upon request. Was just there in early March and stayed in a 4 bdrm on harbor side. There is a lot of renovation going on. They are adding a sales office and also upgrading the pool area. The PR units are still closed but I was told they may be ready in May of 2021. Also, at Avon, they provide an AMX card for $150 and comp the parking for PR if owner is on site. In the unit they provide 2 bottles of wine and snacks and master bdrm has bose music, high end water robes and chocolates. They did have breakfast each morning for PR but with Covid that went away.

They are having such problems at EG that it almost seems better to cut losses and buy out the PR. They did it at Glacier Canyon and they weren't under water.

 

[rpeacock]

They are having such problems at EG that it almost seems better to cut losses and buy out the PR. They did it at Glacier Canyon and they weren't under water.

What kind of problems are they having there?

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[Richelle]

Im actually just look for info about the program not advice on how or whether to purchase. (As an aside, if you can find resale presidential reserve that gives all the perks please give me links - as far as I can tell it doesn't exist as Wyndham has buyers on a waiting list for this program, again not advice, just links to the reputable resale) thanks for replying.

I believe the only waitlist you might run into is at Bali Hai, Canterbury, or Midtown which are the most popular I believe. Otherwise, they might be BSing you on that part. Not trying to tell you not to buy or anything. Resale presidential reserve contracts do pop up on the resale market but they are rare. They also do not give you Founders VIP benefits, so resale doesn't give you the same exact perks.

 

[Richelle]

Like @Sandi Bo, I am green with envy. What you choose to do with your money is your business. Some I think, just want to make sure you know there is another option before you spend a gazillion dollars on it. If you buy resale, make sure you are buying a minimum of 1 million points. Otherwise, there are certain benefits that will not be available to you. Pages 232 and 233 of the directory describe what those benefits are. Most PR contracts are 1 million or more, but occasionally, you will find something less than one million on the resale market.

Let's go back to buying directly from Wyndham for a second. I know @Jan M. is a PR owner. If I recall correctly, one of the complaints she had, was that she lost ARP to regular deeded inventory when she traded in her CWA points for deeded PR points. Prior to the trade, she could book 13 months out at 70+ CWA participating resorts. Now she can only book her home resort 14 months out and she is limited to the PR inventory. At 12 months, she can book other PR resorts but again, only PR inventory. She has to until 11 months when the RARP period opens up, to book normal inventory. This limits your availability in the ARP period. Regular deeded owners have access to the regular inventory which there is more of. Did I understand that correctly Jan? If all your points are at Bali Hai, you will only be able to book Bali Hai PR inventory 14 months out. If there is nothing available, you have to wait until 11 months when regular inventory is made available to you. If you do not plan that far out, this won't matter. If you do, you may want to consider keeping some of your points, regular points.

 

[bendadin]

What kind of problems are they having there?

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Since the PR are below the pool deck, there is structural damage to those units. They were working on them and then hit another water problem. EG is its own problem anyway with the fractional ownership. All 4 bedroom change ownership on Fridays. So if you have it over a Friday, you have to move. I had a reservation that my daughter couldn't use, so we gave it to a pilot and his family who had no ride with this whole thing. They had to move on Christmas morning no less. So between the damaged PR units and the fractional ownership, it is a tough one.

 

[Richelle]

Since the PR are below the pool deck, there is structural damage to those units. They were working on them and then hit another water problem. EG is its own problem anyway with the fractional ownership. All 4 bedroom change ownership on Fridays. So if you have it over a Friday, you have to move. I had a reservation that my daughter couldn't use, so we gave it to a pilot and his family who had no ride with this whole thing. They had to move on Christmas morning no less. So between the damaged PR units and the fractional ownership, it is a tough one.

Yikes. If I ever go PR, I definitely will not buy there.


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[Jan M.]

Like @Sandi Bo, I am green with envy. What you choose to do with your money is your business. Some I think, just want to make sure you know there is another option before you spend a gazillion dollars on it. If you buy resale, make sure you are buying a minimum of 1 million points. Otherwise, there are certain benefits that will not be available to you. Pages 232 and 233 of the directory describe what those benefits are. Most PR contracts are 1 million or more, but occasionally, you will find something less than one million on the resale market.

Let's go back to buying directly from Wyndham for a second. I know @Jan M. is a PR owner. If I recall correctly, one of the complaints she had, was that she lost ARP to regular deeded inventory when she traded in her CWA points for deeded PR points. Prior to the trade, she could book 13 months out at 70+ CWA participating resorts. Now she can only book her home resort 14 months out and she is limited to the PR inventory. At 12 months, she can book other PR resorts but again, only PR inventory. She has to until 11 months when the RARP period opens up, to book normal inventory. This limits your availability in the ARP period. Regular deeded owners have access to the regular inventory which there is more of. Did I understand that correctly Jan? If all your points are at Bali Hai, you will only be able to book Bali Hai PR inventory 14 months out. If there is nothing available, you have to wait until 11 months when regular inventory is made available to you. If you do not plan that far out, this won't matter. If you do, you may want to consider keeping some of your points, regular points.

If you don't already own a million PR points then you never want to buy anything less than a million. If you own less than a million the only thing you can use those points for is to book PR units at your home resort; they cannot be used to book anything else. Once you own a million PR points then this isn't an issue if you wanted to buy something for less than a million points.

If someone was looking at buying something for less than a million PR points to add to the PR they already own I would caution them to look at that resort's point chart. Say you bought a 224,000 point Desert Blue PR contract. I think 224k was and still might be the smallest number of PR points Wyndham sells. You might not have enough points in that contract to be able to book what you want in a PR unit at your home resort at 14-12 months. A week in a 1 BR PR there is 325,000 or 300,000 depending on the season.

With PR you can book PR units at your home resort 14-12 months out. From 12-10 months out you have access to PR units at other PR resorts. AT 11-10 months you have RARP and can use it to book non PR units at other resorts.

We actually traded in everything we owned at Grand Desert not CWA when we bought PR. Since I didn't book with ARP it never dawned on me that this would present an issue and it wasn't an issue for the first few years we owned PR. Eventually the time came when I wanted to reserve a deluxe unit with ARP and couldn't because we didn't own any CWA or CWS points. I had to wait a another couple of months until it got into the 10 month standard booking window to book what our son wanted. I picked up a resale at Grand Desert after that so we had some CWS points to be able to book units that weren't PR units with ARP.