frank808
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- Disney Vacation Club (Aulani,SSR,VGC,VGF) Hilton Grand Vacation Club(Bay Club, Kohala Suites, The District) Marriott Vacation Club (Aruba Surf Club, Grand Residence, Grand Chateau, Grand Vista,Harbour Lake, KoOlina,Willow Ridge & DC points)
Went to a presentation at Lakeshore this morning at 815AM. Got there exactly at 814AM and reception person checked us in and showed us where to sit to wait for our sales person.
Waited 10 minutes and a nice lady showed up and took us back to her office. She sat down and we exchanged greetings. Asked what she can sell us. Told her that we were here for the "new" information. She explained how they acquired Hyatt and some other stuff. Did not have a printout of what we owned so excused herself to find out.
Came back 20 minutes later with our ownership. Said our portfolio was extensive and what we needed to buy was more trust points to get us to 7000 trust points. I explained that we already have 5000 trust points and enough enrolled weeks that we qualified for chairman 10 times over. But she kept saying that I needed 7000 trust points to be considered VIP owner. Of course I asked what that meant. She told me that God forbid we lost our enrolled weeks, we would move down from Chairman's to executive. I said no problem as the only chairman's thing I used was the late banking of DC points. Tells me there is a way to ensure that never happens and will bring in manager to show me.
Manager comes in and she tells me they will pay me twice for a willowridge week if I used it as a trade in. In the end it was $42000 of new money to get 3000 trust points. Of course I said why I would spend $42K to buy 3k points. Then she went to the sheet I filled out and said I had more weeks than needed this year. She was proud and said for paying them $42K she would ensure that MVC take back "free and clear" the enrolled weeks I had. Thereby saving me $40K in maintenance fees for 2026. My $42K purchase would be even in that first year.
I was flabbergasted and responded " you want me to pay you $42K for 3000 trust points. Then MVC will take back my platinum willowridge, Harbour lake, Grand vista and Ko olina weeks?" She said yes and it was such a great deal that I would be crazy not to do this and save at least $40K in MF for 2026. I told her I would give away my weeks for free before paying MVC to take them back. She then countered with but you will have to pay closing costs to have someone take them. Plus you you will have to find 20+ people to take the weeks. She would save me all that work because MVC is being nice and will take all these worthless resale weeks back.
I thought in my mind this sales manager is nuts. With their price, I could pay someone $1500 for each week. I made a comment that I would do them better and take all the annual MKO ocean view weeks from them if they paid me $500 for each week transferred into my account. Then she said we don't have weeks to sell you. I responded you are not selling as MVC is going to pay me $500 to take the week. MVC will make $1500 for taking these worthless Ko Olina weeks from someone else and pay me to take them. Then MVC would not have to be holding these bad worthless weeks. She looked at me incredulously like I was crazy (same look I gave her when she told me to pay them to take back my weeks). Let's just say it went nowhere from that point. She said that this was a once in lifetime deal to get rid of those bad unwanted platinum weeks. It got so bad that she said we could leave and no closer even came to meet with us. Unfortunately this took the whole 75 minutes.
Sorry for long rant but will answer any questions if there are any.
I got $300 in visa gift card and $100 to use at a restaurant group for the 75 min presentation. Will see if I can schedule another presentation (for $300 plus $100) on Sunday when we check into Cypress Harbour.
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Waited 10 minutes and a nice lady showed up and took us back to her office. She sat down and we exchanged greetings. Asked what she can sell us. Told her that we were here for the "new" information. She explained how they acquired Hyatt and some other stuff. Did not have a printout of what we owned so excused herself to find out.
Came back 20 minutes later with our ownership. Said our portfolio was extensive and what we needed to buy was more trust points to get us to 7000 trust points. I explained that we already have 5000 trust points and enough enrolled weeks that we qualified for chairman 10 times over. But she kept saying that I needed 7000 trust points to be considered VIP owner. Of course I asked what that meant. She told me that God forbid we lost our enrolled weeks, we would move down from Chairman's to executive. I said no problem as the only chairman's thing I used was the late banking of DC points. Tells me there is a way to ensure that never happens and will bring in manager to show me.
Manager comes in and she tells me they will pay me twice for a willowridge week if I used it as a trade in. In the end it was $42000 of new money to get 3000 trust points. Of course I said why I would spend $42K to buy 3k points. Then she went to the sheet I filled out and said I had more weeks than needed this year. She was proud and said for paying them $42K she would ensure that MVC take back "free and clear" the enrolled weeks I had. Thereby saving me $40K in maintenance fees for 2026. My $42K purchase would be even in that first year.
I was flabbergasted and responded " you want me to pay you $42K for 3000 trust points. Then MVC will take back my platinum willowridge, Harbour lake, Grand vista and Ko olina weeks?" She said yes and it was such a great deal that I would be crazy not to do this and save at least $40K in MF for 2026. I told her I would give away my weeks for free before paying MVC to take them back. She then countered with but you will have to pay closing costs to have someone take them. Plus you you will have to find 20+ people to take the weeks. She would save me all that work because MVC is being nice and will take all these worthless resale weeks back.
I thought in my mind this sales manager is nuts. With their price, I could pay someone $1500 for each week. I made a comment that I would do them better and take all the annual MKO ocean view weeks from them if they paid me $500 for each week transferred into my account. Then she said we don't have weeks to sell you. I responded you are not selling as MVC is going to pay me $500 to take the week. MVC will make $1500 for taking these worthless Ko Olina weeks from someone else and pay me to take them. Then MVC would not have to be holding these bad worthless weeks. She looked at me incredulously like I was crazy (same look I gave her when she told me to pay them to take back my weeks). Let's just say it went nowhere from that point. She said that this was a once in lifetime deal to get rid of those bad unwanted platinum weeks. It got so bad that she said we could leave and no closer even came to meet with us. Unfortunately this took the whole 75 minutes.
Sorry for long rant but will answer any questions if there are any.
I got $300 in visa gift card and $100 to use at a restaurant group for the 75 min presentation. Will see if I can schedule another presentation (for $300 plus $100) on Sunday when we check into Cypress Harbour.
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