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[Vacationfuntips]

2014 Wyndham Smoky Mountains Maintenance Fee

2014 Wyndham Smoky Mountains

Total HOA for 1,000 Points $4.37

Maintenance Fees per 1,000 points $3.44
Reserve Fund per 1,000 points $0.82
Property Tax per 1,000 points $0.11
Total HOA Fee $4.37

Program Fee per 1,000 points $0.55

Total HOA Fee $4.37 + Program Fee $0.55 per 1,000 points = $4.92

 

[legalfee]

2014 Wyndham Bluebeards Beach Club
Week 18-51 float Studio
$679.00

 

[Timeshare Von]

West Winds:
Total HOA Fee: $886.26
Maintenance Fees: $644.23
Reserve Fund: $198.61
Property Tax: $43.42
Points: 154,000

77k point UDI contract:
Maintenance Fees: $5.55/1000
Reserve Fund: $1.63/1000
Property Tax: $.36/1000
Total: $7.54/1000 or $580.58 annually
plus $118 program fee

 

[markb53]

Maintenance Fee for my 3 Contracts

Panama City Beach (Resale)
Contract Type: Undivided Interest - Odd Year (UDI)
Points: 210,000
Total HOA Fee
Total HOA Fee for 1,000 Points: $3.66
Maintenance Fees: (105,000 / 1000) * $3.10 = $325.50
Reserve Fund: (105,000 / 1000) * $0.46 = $48.30
Property Tax: (105,000 / 1000) * $0.10 = $10.50
Total HOA Fee: (105,000 / 1000) * $3.66 = $384.30
Program Fee
Program Rate for 1,000 Points: $0.57
Program Fee: (105,000 / 1000) * $0.57 = $59.85
CLUB WYNDHAM Plus Assessment
Annual Fee: $384.30 + $59.85 = $444.15


Club Wyndham Access (Developer)
Contract Type: Undivided Interest (UDI)
Points: 77,000
Total HOA Fee
Total HOA Fee for 1,000 Points: $4.90
Maintenance Fees: (77,000 / 1000) * $4.90 = $377.30
Total HOA Fee: (77,000 / 1000) * $4.90 = $377.30
Program Fee
Program Rate for 1,000 Points: $0.57
Program Fee: (77,000 / 1000) * $0.57 = $43.89
CLUB WYNDHAM Plus Assessment
Annual Fee: $377.30 + $43.89 = $421.19

Club Wyndham Access (Developer)
Contract Type: Undivided Interest (UDI)
Points: 105,000
Total HOA Fee
Total HOA Fee for 1,000 Points: $4.90
Maintenance Fees: (105,000 / 1000) * $4.90 = $514.50
Total HOA Fee: (105,000 / 1000) * $4.90 = $514.50
Program Fee
Program Rate for 1,000 Points: $0.57
Program Fee: (105,000 / 1000) * $0.57 = $59.85
CLUB WYNDHAM Plus Assessment
Annual Fee: $514.50 + $59.85 = $574.35

 

[Vacationfuntips]

Keep on posting - cost per 1,000 points.

We need a better Wyndham timeshare data base for 2014 maintenance fees with the program fee costs posted on Tug BBS.

This helps others to decide if the maintenance fee costs (subject to go up) make sense to purchase or to not purchase something? Many people seem to rent below their cost per 1,000 points unless they are VIP, why?

Pull out those yearly statements from Wyndham or go check online at www.wyndhamvacationresorts.com under financial statements.

Thanks!

Cynthia T.

 

[wjappraise]

Bonnet Creek Presidential Reserve. There is a PR surcharge. It appears to be $0.15 per 1,000 points.

Contract Type: Undivided Interest (UDI) - Presidential Reserve. 1,064,000 points.

Total HOA Fee
Total HOA Fee for 1,000 Points: $4.82.
Program Fee
Program Rate for 1,000 Points (0-1,000,000 points): $0.63
Program Rate for 1,000 Points (1,000,000+ points): $0.57
Contract Type: Undivided Interest (UDI) - Presidential Reserve

Total HOA Fee
Total HOA Fee for 1,000 Points: $4.82

Program Fee
Program Rate for 1,000 Points (0-1,000,000 points): $0.63
Program Rate for 1,000 Points (1,000,000+ points): $0.57

Total cost per 1,000 points: $5.39


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Bonnet Creek - Non-Presidential. 510,000 points.
Contract Type: Undivided Interest (UDI)

Total HOA Fee
Total HOA Fee for 1,000 Points: $4.67

Program Fee
Program Rate for 1,000 Points: $0.57

Total Cost per 1,000 Points: $5.24

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Wyndham Ocean Walk. 126,000 points

Contract Type: Undivided Interest (UDI)
Points: 126,000
Total HOA Fee
Total HOA Fee for 1,000 Points: $5.53

Program Fee
Program Rate for 1,000 Points: $0.57

Total Cost per 1,000 points: $6.10.

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Wyndham Palm Aire. 105,000 points

Total HOA Fee
Total HOA Fee for 1,000 Points: $5.59

Program Fee
Program Rate for 1,000 Points: $0.57

Total Cost per 1,000 points: $6.16.

Hope that helps.
Wes




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[Zentos]

I didn't see this one posted, so figured I would share. The reserve fund seems a bit high, unfortunately.

Wyndham Branson
Contract Type: Undivided Interest - Even Year (UDI)
Points: 210,000
Total HOA Fee for 1,000 Points: $5.52
Maintenance Fees: (105,000 / 1000) * $4.30 = $451.50
Reserve Fund: (105,000 / 1000) * $1.12 = $117.60
Property Tax: (105,000 / 1000) * $0.10 = $10.50
Total HOA Fee: (105,000 / 1000) * $5.52 = $579.60

 

[Jnboy9111]

Wyndham South Shore
Annual Usage / 105,000 point UDI

Total HOA Fee for 1,000 Points: $3.58
Maintenance Fees: (105,000 / 1000) * $2.87 = $301.35
Reserve Fund: (105,000 / 1000) * $0.59 = $61.95
Property Tax: (105,000 / 1000) * $0.12 = $12.60
Total HOA Fee: (105,000 / 1000) * $3.58 = $375.90

My total Maintenance Fees for year are $375.90 plus program fee

Thanks,
John T

 

[uscav8r]

National Harbor $4.20/1000 includes program fee. $3.63/1000 without the program fee of $.57.


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[planzfortomorrow]

I haven't seen these two listed yet:

Sedona AZ
Total HOA Fee for 1,000 Points: $4.48
Maintenance Fees: * $3.57
Reserve Fund: * $0.77
Property Tax: * $0.14
Total HOA Fee: * $4.48

La Cascada TX
Total HOA Fee for 1,000 Points: $4.48
Maintenance Fees: * $3.06
Reserve Fund: * $0.76
Property Tax: * $0.66
Total HOA Fee: * $4.48

Plus the $118 fee, which for my case is added into the Sedona AZ contract

 

[jebloomquist]

I have several properties at several resorts, so I am just putting in the average fees for each property. I have no idea whether or not this image will actually appear in this post. Putting images out here is a real mystery to me.

Jim

Nope, it didn't work. How do I put an image out on TUG?

So here it is as some unformated text.

Resort Total HOA Fee Program Fee Annual Fee/1000
Wyndham Bali Hai Villas 3.49 0.57 4.06
Wyndham Branson 5.52 0.57 6.09
Wyndham Pagosa 5.41 0.57 5.98
Wyndham Patriots' Place 4.70 0.57 5.27
Wyndham Fairfield Harbour 4.35 0.57 4.92
Wyndham Sedona 4.48 0.57 5.05
Wyndham Smoky Mountains 4.55 0.57 5.12
Wyndham Panama City Beach 3.66 0.57 4.23

 

[Xpat]

Resort Total HOA Fee Program Fee Annual Fee/1000
Wyndham Bali Hai Villas 3.49 0.57 4.06

Jim,
Is your Bali Hai a converted week? an earlier post in this thread listed MFs at Bali Hai at 3.16

 

[jebloomquist]

Jim,
Is your Bali Hai a converted week? an earlier post in this thread listed MFs at Bali Hai at 3.16

I have 10 Bali Hai Villas contracts. What I stated here was my average of all of the contracts. I did that for all of the resorts that I listed where I have multiple contracts.

The Bali Hai fees, including the program fee of $.57, vary from $3.69 up to $4.30 depending upon the contract. The fixed and floating week conversions are the contracts at the high end.

Jim

 

[bbakernbay]

Wyndham Resort at Fairfield Glade

2014 Maintenance Fees are $840 for a 2 Bedroom in Stonecastle. Week 44

Includes $175 for Reserve Fund and $90 for Bad Debt.

I just wrote the Board and said I won't be paying this kind of amount again, they can foreclose and add to their bad debt costs.

Our 2 bedroom in Kissimmee is $470 in prime time of March.

 

[Vacationfuntips]

Bump

Cynthia T.

 

[Jnboy9111]

Angel Fire Resort - Eagle Wing Suites
Annual Usage - 112,000 point

Total HOA Fee
Maintenance Fees: $461.84 which comes out to $4.12 per 1000 points

Program Fee
Program Rate for 1,000 Points: $0.55 per 1000 points
Program Fee: (112,000 / 1000) * $0.55 = $61.60

CLUB WYNDHAM Plus Assessment
Annual Fee: $461.84 + $61.60 = $523.44
* Monthly Fee: $523.44 / 12 = $43.62

John

 

[7knights]

Hi, hubby and I are looking into buying Wyndham points and I have a question about the fees. I see you all listing several fees so I want to make sure I'm understanding what you're posting.

We're looking at Ebay for resale points and I see maintenance fees listed with the ad but you all have what seem to be additional fees. So does that mean that the fees are maintenance fees only or do I have maint/hoa/.../.... Could someone please explain to me what exactly you pay per month then show me a break down that way. I'm trying to find out about "hidden" fees that they never tell you about in a presentation.

Thanks!

 

[lcml11]

Hi, hubby and I are looking into buying Wyndham points and I have a question about the fees. I see you all listing several fees so I want to make sure I'm understanding what you're posting.

We're looking at Ebay for resale points and I see maintenance fees listed with the ad but you all have what seem to be additional fees. So does that mean that the fees are maintenance fees only or do I have maint/hoa/.../.... Could someone please explain to me what exactly you pay per month then show me a break down that way. I'm trying to find out about "hidden" fees that they never tell you about in a presentation.

Thanks!

Every resort is different. Post 41 is a example of one resort. If you posted the resort(s) you were interested in, then if someone who owns there might post their fees for the resort(s) you are interested in.

 

[7knights]

Wyndham Kingsgate.

 

[pacodemountainside]

Hi, hubby and I are looking into buying Wyndham points and I have a question about the fees. I see you all listing several fees so I want to make sure I'm understanding what you're posting.

We're looking at Ebay for resale points and I see maintenance fees listed with the ad but you all have what seem to be additional fees. So does that mean that the fees are maintenance fees only or do I have maint/hoa/.../.... Could someone please explain to me what exactly you pay per month then show me a break down that way. I'm trying to find out about "hidden" fees that they never tell you about in a presentation.

Thanks!

In Wyndham system you pay a resort HOA fee which covers all expenses of operating your specific resort. If too low, no reserves, then you get a SA!

In addition all points owners pay a minimum $118 POA fee which covers the cost of reservations, "free" RCI membership, owner relations, etc.

Keep in mind, many MFs listed in e-bay ads are wrong. Ask for estoppal or call resort!

In addition there are HK fees, reservation fees, guest certificate fees, banking fees, credit pool fees, Perks Fees, ad infinitum which you pay if you "over use" these " services"!

If HOA and POA fees are around $5.50 /1,000 points they are about average.

There is $299 fee(extortion charge) to change ownership!

 

[lcml11]

Wyndham Kingsgate.

I do not own at Kingsgate, maybe someone that does can post them.

 

[7knights]

So you're saying a Property Owner's Fee + Maintenance Fee + Program Fee + Reserve Fund + Property Tax = Home Owner's Fee ?? HOA/12 months = monthly fee?

 

[lcml11]

So you're saying a Property Owner's Fee + Maintenance Fee + Program Fee + Reserve Fund + Property Tax = Home Owner's Fee ?? HOA/12 months = monthly fee?

In post number 26, as an example, the Total HOA for 1,000 Points $4.37 per thousand points. That includes everything except the program fee which is 55 cents per 1,000 points.

For what it is worth, I am a believer in a flight to quality approach. Smoky Mountain, Myrtle Beach, and other great resorts in great locations.

 

[pacodemountainside]

So you're saying a Property Owner's Fee + Maintenance Fee + Program Fee + Reserve Fund + Property Tax = Home Owner's Fee ?? HOA/12 months = monthly fee?

Yes! That simple! Ignore terminology as is screwed up!

Keep in mind PCC guys on e-bay often have fees, etc. wrong!

 

[uscav8r]

So you're saying a Property Owner's Fee + Maintenance Fee + Program Fee + Reserve Fund + Property Tax = Home Owner's Fee ?? HOA/12 months = monthly fee?

Yes! That simple! Ignore terminology as is screwed up!

Keep in mind PCC guys on e-bay often have fees, etc. wrong!

And I've found many PCC's are generally unresponsive when you ask for a fee breakdown. I've seen ONE eBay listing actually post a screen shot of the owner's Club Wyndham Assessment page. I wish they all did that. I usually ask for that screen shot (and I am usually ignored or told "no"), but it is the only way to be on the same page, no pun intended, in regards to the fees because Wyndham has so many different ones. Usually the Program Fee is the big difference, especially for smaller contracts, due to the fixed floor ($0.55-0.57/1000 points, with a minimum $118 or $137 depending on whether you already have Plus Partners from developer points).