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Point at Poipu comments

I was very happy to get the exchange, however, I'm in no rush to go back. The grounds were very nice, the pool looked very nice, however, for us it turned out to be just that - for looks, unless you were a kid or a parent of a small one. You really could not swim at all...even the swim length was really too shallow. The furniture (Building #4 March 2008) was well used to the point of no comfort.

We were in a garden view and even at that found the wind off the ocean to be cold making the lanai not a place to sit comfortably. But by far my biggest complaint was the noise from above that never stopped. We were even moved after a representative came to listen and agreed, but the move to another unit never solved the noise problem from above...just not as many heavy steps or no kids above us in the 2nd unit. It was by far the worst noise we've experienced from above in a timeshare yet.

The bedrooms were very nice and so too was the master ensuite. But I don't need that to enjoy my week. For us quiet, a swimmable pool and furniture with 'stuffing' do the trick.
 
When in August will you be there? We are going to go in the summer for the first time 8/15-8/22. We usually go in October.

Many excellent day trips to take. You can find several beaches that would be good for your kids to play at.

Al

Our exchange is for the following week but I'm trying to change to the week of 08/08 or 08/15. I just found out that my kids start school on 08/31 so we want to go earlier if we can.
 
Poipu Exchangers

Steve is correct in that the owner's have first shot at whatever view class they own. I think the comment by the front desk person needs a little "interpretation." I suspect that when the Point banks weeks it banks only Garden Views, because the other "views" are held for the owners. So yes, RCI Exchangers would get assigned Garden Views. I know for a fact that when I "banked" one of my Ocean Front weeks, a Garden View was banked.

Having said that, the previous resort owners would upgrade exchangers to the best unit available, on a first come, first serve basis. With Diamond that may no longer be true.

I am also surprised at the front desk's attitude about your request to see the manager. Previously, the resort management has had an open door policy with guests. Again, with Diamond that may no longer be true.

Cheers,

Paul
 
I was flat out told by two different employees that people coming in through RCI are automatically given garden view.

My information is from Patti Ornellas, the person who manages reservations for the resort, and the person who makes the actual assignments of exchangers to rooms. I have discussed the reservation process in detail with Patti, with specific focus on how the inventory is assigned between the DRI club, unconverted ownerships, and exchangers.

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Beyond that, it's not in the owners interests to blanket assign exchangers to Garden View rooms. Let's say that on some given checkin day there are 25 garden view units available for checkin on that day. Let's further assume that the resort has bulk-banked 10 units with RCI for exchange purposes.

If they automatically assigned those exchangers to garden view units, that would leave 15 garden view units available to be occupied by owners. If they get more than 15 reservation requests from garden view owners for that check-in day, then they need to start telling those owners, "No space available", even though there may be available inventory in other view categories. The timeshare documents prohibit gratis upgrades of owners in view category.

The reservation system actually operates simpler by simply slotting exchangers into whatever space remains.
 
Steve is correct in that the owner's have first shot at whatever view class they own. I think the comment by the front desk person needs a little "interpretation." I suspect that when the Point banks weeks it banks only Garden Views, because the other "views" are held for the owners. So yes, RCI Exchangers would get assigned Garden Views. I know for a fact that when I "banked" one of my Ocean Front weeks, a Garden View was banked.
There are two banking operations that go on, one by the resort itself and one by the DRI Club. I think that is the source of some confusion.

To start, you need to recognize that resort inventory is divided into three pools, one for deeded owners, one for DRI Trust, and one for deeded members who have joined their week to the DRI Club. For each check-in day the available rooms in each view category are divided among those three pools based on relative ownership represented in each category.

Now Let's start with resort itself. The resort bulk banks weeks with RCI and II on behalf of owners not affiliated with the DRI Club. The resort inventory control system identifies those as incoming exchangers, without assigning them to any view category. The total number of allowable reservations that non-Club owners are allowed to make for that checkin day is reduced by the number of incoming exchangers. The resort accepts non-Club reservation requests until the time when the maximum allowable number of owner exchanges is reached. The incoming exchangers who hold exchanges placed by the resort will end up in the units whatever units don't get filled by owners. Those can be any view category.

It's different on the DRI Club side. When the Club deposits a week with an exchange company, the Club deposits a specific week from the inventory that has been assigned to it. The Club then notifies the resort that particular week will be occupied by an exchanger. Since that is a specific week that has been assigned to the Club, an exchanger arriving through a reservation made by the Club will get the view category that was deposited by the Club.

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As far as the resort is concerned, the DRI Club is just like any other owner of multiple units. When the resort puts inventory into the DRI Club pools, that inventory becomes owner reserved inventory, and it's managed the same as you were an owner of mulitple units. For example, if you owned four weeks at the resort in differing view categories, and you were assigning those weeks to other people (guests, renters, independent exchangers), you would need to tell the resort which of the weeks you have reserved will be occupied by which of your guests.

It's the same with the DRI Club. The resort sees the DRI Club as the owner, and any person who comes to the resort through the Club activities is viewed as a guest of the Club in the same way that a person occupying your unit in your stead is viewed as your guest.

Thus, when the Club sends someone to the resort, they need to tell the resort which Club reservation right is attached to that person. The resort doesn't care whether the incoming person is an owner through the Club, an outside Club member, or an exchanger. All the resort cares about is knowing what view category goes with the reservation.

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Nutshell. If the exchange originated from DRI Club activity, it will be linked with a view category. So if the Club only gives garden view to exchange companies (as is likely), then all exchangers arriving through Club exchanges will be in garden view units. If the exchanger is arriving through resort bulk banking, they will end up in whatever view category has not been fully booked by non-Club owners.

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This is complicated. Few, if any, people working the sales floor at the resort understand how the system, nor do the people working the front desk really understand how the reservation system works. The only people that really understand it are those who are actually running the system and tracking inventory.
 
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I just came back from a week at the Point. Aside from being rained out all week I was very happy with the resort. I had called about 3 weeks prior to arrival and requested an upper floor in building 4 or 6. The person on the phone said there were no garden view units in those buildings. I said fine I'll be happy with an upper floor. When we checked in we were on the 4th floor of building 2 with a very nice ocean view from our lanai. The front desk staff were very nice and friendly. We skipped the tour as there weren't any activities happening that week due to the Kona storm and flash flooding, so nothing to spend our bongo bucks on. The carpets looked new, the bedding was fab, the towels were lush. Pots and pans were kind of sketchy. I would love to go back to the Point.....when it's not raining. ;)
 
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