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Phone tracking

clifffaith

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I guess I thought I could “find my iPhone” or track Cliff’s phone for free. Seems they want a paid subscription for this?? Thought I’d try to get something in place in case wandering or getting lost becomes an issue.
 
Are you using the Find My app that is native and preinstalled to the iPhone? Just like QR reader apps, you don't need to download any new app from the app store.
 
I guess I thought I could “find my iPhone” or track Cliff’s phone for free. Seems they want a paid subscription for this?? Thought I’d try to get something in place in case wandering or getting lost becomes an issue.
Who is “they”?
 
Who is “they”?
Apps when I searched App Store. Looks like I need to go back to class for the phone I bought at the end of February when my iPhone 7 died in my hand. I still can’t seem to figure out how to track his phone on mine, but at least this morning I discovered where all my passwords now live. Will that keep me from searching and searching under settings again? Probably not! Also I was able to delete 5,000+ unread emails from his phone, so that’s progress!
 
Apps when I searched App Store. Looks like I need to go back to class for the phone I bought at the end of February when my iPhone 7 died in my hand. I still can’t seem to figure out how to track his phone on mine, but at least this morning I discovered where all my passwords now live. Will that keep me from searching and searching under settings again? Probably not! Also I was able to delete 5,000+ unread emails from his phone, so that’s progress!
You don’t need to go to the App Store.

There is an app called “Find My” which is pre installed that you can use for this purpose.
 
Slow, old and stupid. After twisting myself up into knots, I went back to his phone and plain as day it offered to share its location with me. So I think I actually got it done!

Now if the DMV actually talks to him Tuesday (his 88th birthday is Wednesday) during his license renewal, instead of just having him read the eye chart and pay, I’ll be happy. (He doesn’t know our address and can’t answer that sort of question). If that doesn’t pan out I’ll have Reata Glen report him so I and his doctor have plausible deniability. Actually shows no impairment driving, but can’t find his underwear every morning (pull-ups live in the bathroom not the dresser, and that information refuses to stick in his mind) so it’s long past time to give up his license. He has been fighting me tooth and nail on no freeway driving, so had to cancel Easter with my mother. I’ll instead go alone for Mother’s Day next month.
 
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You should be using an app that looks just like this. Anything else is likely scammy. Lots of apps out there for stuff that is native on the iPhone. These apps try to trick people into downloading them because people don't realize the functionality already exits on the phone. Those downloaded apps will either have ads or require paid service.
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Slow, old and stupid. After twisting myself up into knots, I went back to his phone and plain as day it offered to share its location with me. So I think I actually got it done!

Now if the DMV actually talks to him Tuesday (his 88th birthday is Wednesday) during his license renewal, instead of just having him read the eye chart and pay, I’ll be happy. (He doesn’t know our address and can’t answer that sort of question). If that doesn’t pan out I’ll have Reata Glen report him so I and his doctor have plausible deniability. Actually shows no impairment driving, but can’t find his underwear every morning (pull-ups live in the bathroom not the dresser, and that information refuses to stick in his mind) so it’s long past time to give up his license. He has been fighting me tooth and nail on no freeway driving, so had to cancel Easter with my mother. I’ll instead go alone for Mother’s Day next month.
Sorry about his declined mental acuity. With family in San Juan Capistrano, I encourage you to go to dmv (link below) and submit a request to retest. Despite your belief that he "shows no impairment driving," someone that does not know their own address, and can't find his diapers, should not be behind the wheel of a killing machine. It is not fair to those children and families whose live could be ended in an instant.

 
Sorry about his declined mental acuity. With family in San Juan Capistrano, I encourage you to go to dmv (link below) and submit a request to retest. Despite your belief that he "shows no impairment driving," someone that does not know their own address, and can't find his diapers, should not be behind the wheel of a killing machine. It is not fair to those children and families whose live could be ended in an instant.

Because he only scored 21 out of 30 points last October on the annual cognitive test at the old folks home, he has been put on six month retesting. I checked with Health Services the other day and if the DMV does renew his license the staff here will send in the proper form. I have no doubt he’d pass an actual driving test with a DMV employee, but I suspect they’ll start with an interview when/if they need to have him come back in. After my dad took out the side of someone’s car while parking when he was 85, he was invited to an office in an office park (not at the DMV) for an interview. Dad had no apparent cognitive issues and was then set up for a driving test. They said he “didn’t merge smoothly “ on to the freeway, but invited him to make another appointment and try again. Dad instead gave up his license due to other health issues. Cliff has compromised short term memory, that’s why I hope someone asks him some simple questions he can’t answer on Tuesday so we can pull the license sooner rather than later. I plan to point him at the front door and sit outside trying to sync my new phone to the car. That way I’m not tempted to try to point him at the correct window at the DMV counter.
 
. Cliff has compromised short term memory, that’s why I hope someone asks him some simple questions he can’t answer on Tuesday so we can pull the license sooner rather than later
You do know that Cliff can continue to drive even if his license gets “pulled”. Elderly people do this all of the time.

Real talk: YOU need to stop him driving. Seems like you are waiting for the DMV to do the job. Take the keys away.
 
You do know that Cliff can continue to drive even if his license gets “pulled”. Elderly people do this all of the time.

Real talk: YOU need to stop him driving. Seems like you are waiting for the DMV to do the job. Take the keys away.
I’ve already thought of that. That means after I hide his key really well, mine needs to always be with me so he doesn’t go out while I’m down the hall or in the clubhouse playing cards. It’s not that he necessarily will be sneaky, he simply won’t remember.
 
I’ve already thought of that. That means after I hide his key really well, mine needs to always be with me so he doesn’t go out while I’m down the hall or in the clubhouse playing cards. It’s not that he necessarily will be sneaky, he simply won’t remember.
Just give "his" key to a family member or put them both on the same ring you keep.
 
Sorry to hear that it's gotten this bad, Faith. Cliff was quite cool when we met in Carlsbad in what now seems like the last century, but wasn't quite.

You could get a small safe in which to store the key. I imagine there are many on Amazon. Some have digital codes, others work on your fingerprint. Harbor Freight has a very small one for $30. Maybe there are other things you'd like to be able to keep track of, like next month's meds in case some get lost. Or the car title, credit cards not used regularly, or spare cash. All of those are in ours.
 
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Because he only scored 21 out of 30 points last October on the annual cognitive test at the old folks home, he has been put on six month retesting. I checked with Health Services the other day and if the DMV does renew his license the staff here will send in the proper form. I have no doubt he’d pass an actual driving test with a DMV employee, but I suspect they’ll start with an interview when/if they need to have him come back in. After my dad took out the side of someone’s car while parking when he was 85, he was invited to an office in an office park (not at the DMV) for an interview. Dad had no apparent cognitive issues and was then set up for a driving test. They said he “didn’t merge smoothly “ on to the freeway, but invited him to make another appointment and try again. Dad instead gave up his license due to other health issues. Cliff has compromised short term memory, that’s why I hope someone asks him some simple questions he can’t answer on Tuesday so we can pull the license sooner rather than later. I plan to point him at the front door and sit outside trying to sync my new phone to the car. That way I’m not tempted to try to point him at the correct window at the DMV counter.
Those testers are risking their lives on some of those driving tests. Why would they ever invite someone to try again?
 
Slow, old and stupid. After twisting myself up into knots, I went back to his phone and plain as day it offered to share its location with me. So I think I actually got it done!

Now if the DMV actually talks to him Tuesday (his 88th birthday is Wednesday) during his license renewal, instead of just having him read the eye chart and pay, I’ll be happy. (He doesn’t know our address and can’t answer that sort of question). If that doesn’t pan out I’ll have Reata Glen report him so I and his doctor have plausible deniability. Actually shows no impairment driving, but can’t find his underwear every morning (pull-ups live in the bathroom not the dresser, and that information refuses to stick in his mind) so it’s long past time to give up his license. He has been fighting me tooth and nail on no freeway driving, so had to cancel Easter with my mother. I’ll instead go alone for Mother’s Day next month.
My husband could drive, but could not read the eye chart. He insisted there was no line four and argued with the examiner. He was denied license renewal. When we went back to get a one day pass to take behind the wheel test, he read line four with no problem but did not pass the driving test as he went real slow so he wouldn’t be accused of speeding. I had been doing all the driving for over a year, but he wanted a license. Such is life with a person with dementia. He never drove again, but did blame me until the day he died.
 
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You do know that Cliff can continue to drive even if his license gets “pulled”. Elderly people do this all of the time.

Real talk: YOU need to stop him driving. Seems like you are waiting for the DMV to do the job. Take the keys away.

Went through this with a relative. A family member did take the keys and it was a big issue and the not speaking and bad attitude drove everyone nuts. I sided with the relative and gave her back the keys but I had put a removable battery connection on their car so it wouldn't start. I also made sure that there was no need to go to the store.

The interesting thing to me was the relative was just happy to have the keys. She didn't care if the car started.

Bill
 
Those testers are risking their lives on some of those driving tests. Why would they ever invite someone to try again?
And on the freeway no less! Dad hadn’t been on the freeway in over five years. We all thought he should have said “I don’t drive on the freeway anymore”. Heck Mom NEVER drove on the Southern California freeways in 65 years of living here!
 
ou do know that Cliff can continue to drive even if his license gets “pulled”. Elderly people do this all of the time.
I have seen this so many times. When I worked in long term care we had many spouses, usually husbands, of our residents who lost their license either for medical reasons, too many demerit points, or failing their annual test, who continued to drive. One day one of a resident's husband pulled into the parking lot narrowly missing hitting my car as he pulled into the parking spot beside me. I knew his Dr had pulled his license many months earlier. When he got out I asked if he had gotten his license back he said "nope, they took away my license but they didnt take away my keys!" On his wife's request we called his son to come over. The son said he knew his dad was continuing to drive but he didnt know how to stop him. We suggested that he should maybe disable something on the car so it wouldn't start. He said he had pulled the battery cables, the distributor cap and let the air out of 2 tires at different times but his dad just called CAA (AAA) and had them fixed. We suggested that he might need to get tough and see if the police would come and talk to him, and then maybe sell the car, if his dad would sign the ownership.
The son of another resident's hubby who continued to drive after hos license was suspended bought an old 2nd hand car that he was going to eventually fix up for his son when he was old enough to drive, but while waiting he parked it right up against the bumper of his dad's car so there was no way he could get his car out of the driveway. He said his dad tried to have the car towed but he had left a note on the dash explaining why it was there, who the owner was, with a copy of the ownership, and his cell number. The tow truck driver called him to confirm and then refused to tow it.

There was just a news story last fall about a 60 year old man who lived just west of Toronto who was stopped by the provincial police for speeding and they discovered his drivers license was suspended in 1985! He was also caught in 2019 by a nearby regional police officer and charged with driving with a suspended license and using an unauthorized license plate. He never showed up for his court date and kept driving.

I have found loosing the ability to drive seems to affect the men far more than it does the women.


~Diane
 
If anyone is interested, please read my February 2026 thread about doing rehabilitative driving in Maryland at 71 (three years ago) because of limited use of my left arm and left leg.

Losing a license means losing independence, but if you're a danger on the road, it's time to stop , or be stopped.
 
Disconnect the battery on the car…or have someone do it for you. Put the keys in a safe where Cliff can’t find them. Use a taxi or Uber or whatever to take you to dr appointments or the store. You live in a place that provides for all your needs for meals and entertainment. Why you continue to let Cliff make these decisions that anyone reading your posts knows he has no business doing so….sorry but you really need some kind of intervention. It is an absolute DANGER to people walking down a sidewalk minding their own business to even consider taking him to renew his license. Just don’t take him. Hide all of his renewal papers. Actually put them thru a shredder. Seriously….he does not need them. Too effing bad if he makes a fuss. You just have to deal with it. My dads physician told him it was best to not drive “”anymore right now”….if things change we can revisit. That was all he needed to hear…he was okay with that. Really, tough crap…do you really want to be complicit if something tragic happens because he thinks he is okay to drive? Does his need to drive outweigh the fact he can kill someone with his impaired judgement? And you as the spouse could also be held liable?
Park your car in a place he won’t find it. An offsite parking garage that will bring your car to you when you call is an option. Good grief….
 
I Googled it and 21 out of 30 on a cognitive test is only considered mild cognitive impairment. So, maybe that is somewhat positive.
 
I Googled it and 21 out of 30 on a cognitive test is only considered mild cognitive impairment. So, maybe that is somewhat positive.
When my husband got 21on the cognitive test, he was pretty far along. I witnessed the test many times, and it is not very hard.
 
It is an absolute DANGER to people walking down a sidewalk minding their own business to even consider taking him to renew his license.
YES. The rationalizing of “no highway driving” doesn’t negate the absolute danger of local driving. We all see stories in the news or on social media of some elderly person plowing into a building & it’s the initial “my brake was stuck!” and eventually we learn nothing was mechanically wrong with the car.

I understand these are not easy scenarios to deal with but come on already.
 
We have a family friend with early stage dementia who refuses to carry a cell phone. He is not allowed to drive but he likes to go for walks around the neighborhood.
They use Apple Airtags hidden in his shoes to track him.
 
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