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Just for informational purposes....do you consider the cottages enclosed in the yellow line on the north side of Ocean Ridge Rd to be oceanfront cottages which line up with Buildings 23 and 25 for the most part ?
 
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You sound like I don't like Peppertree. I love Peppertree and have been going there for at least 20-30 years. Don't think for a minute I do not like Peppertree AB. The beach will be mine in a few weeks. The 2 bedroom units in the area we are talking about is where I always want to be since they are more convenient to the beach. If Peppertree had built in the area where the gazebo is then I would say they were oceanfront just like the cottages on the southern side of Ocean Ridge RD. Ocean front to me means ocean front not across the street front.
 
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You sound like I don't like Peppertree. I love Peppertree and have been going there for at least 20-30 years. Don't think for a minute I do not like Peppertree AB. 25E will be mine in a few weeks. The 2 bedroom units in the area we are talking about is where I always want to be since they are more convenient to the beach. If Peppertree had built in the area where the gazebo isthen I would say they were oceanfront just like the cottages on the southern side of Ocean Ridge RD. Ocean front to me means ocean front not across the street front.
Let's just agree to disagree. It's not a big deal. You think what you want to think and I will think what I want to think. All in all if you are staying in Buildings 17-25 and especially 23 or 25 you are in the right place for Peppertree instead of the ones on Fort Macon Rd and 16E is pretty good also.
 

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Good evening please chill all is well OK.
Pedro.....yes Peppertree AB is a nice place. I have been going there for 20-30 years. The 2 bedroom units in the area of Buildings 17-25 is the best place to be as far as I am concerned. Buildings 23 and 25 are the closest to Ocean Ridge Rd and closest to the ocean. I consider Ocean Ridge Rd the main reason the Buildings are not ocean front. When you visit walk acroos the street up to the gazebo and the cottages to your left and right are what I consider ocean front since they are on the ocean front. You can't go wrong if you can get into 23 and 25 and second best would be 24 and 22. If you are looking towards the ocean from Peppertree AB the best unit on the right will be C and E. The best ones on the left will be D and F so 25 C and E are the best on the right and on the left 23 D and F would be the best in my opinion. The higher the letter the better the view. 25E and 23F are on the third floor and in my opinion the best units. You still have a view of the ocean from the inside of these units so the front door is angled out towards the ocean. There are some phone line obstructions but it is not too bad. There are also places to wash feet off before coming to the gazebo and also as you walk in the gate at Building 25 at ground level. If you need any more information please don't hesitate to ask me.
 

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Pedro.....yes Peppertree AB is a nice place. I have been going there for 20-30 years. The 2 bedroom units in the area of Buildings 17-25 is the best place to be as far as I am concerned. Buildings 23 and 25 are the closest to Ocean Ridge Rd and closest to the ocean. I consider Ocean Ridge Rd the main reason the Buildings are not ocean front. When you visit walk acroos the street up to the gazebo and the cottages to your left and right are what I consider ocean front since they are on the ocean front. You can't go wrong if you can get into 23 and 25 and second best would be 24 and 22. If you are looking towards the ocean from Peppertree AB the best unit on the right will be C and E. The best ones on the left will be D and F so 25 C and E are the best on the right and on the left 23 D and F would be the best in my opinion. The higher the letter the better the view. 25E and 23F are on the third floor and in my opinion the best units. You still have a view of the ocean from the inside of these units so the front door is angled out towards the ocean. There are some phone line obstructions but it is not too bad. There are also places to wash feet off before coming to the gazebo and also as you walk in the gate at Building 25 at ground level. If you need any more information please don't hesitate to ask me.

I own 23D. Excellent view.
 

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Koz....I had some friends stay in 23D in the last week or so. It was week 29.

Mine is 16. Lost to Festiva. I won't be using it next year either since I made other plans because of the uncertainty. Week 16 weather is quite unpredictable. I've been there when it was very hot and very chilly. I'll be at AB soon at A Place ATB. A chance to get my NC fix.
 

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Mine is 16. Lost to Festiva. I won't be using it next year either since I made other plans because of the uncertainty. Week 16 weather is quite unpredictable. I've been there when it was very hot and very chilly. I'll be at AB soon at A Place ATB. A chance to get my NC fix.
I will be at AB in a few weeks.
 
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Are Peppertree AB units 17-25 considered oceanfront ?

"I don't think of any units at Peppertree as being oceanfront...more like ocean view."
 
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Whoa....

This is a quote from a person who also has been going to Peppertree AB for years and I asked themthe question and this is what I got back from them. "I don't think of any units at Peppertree as being oceanfront...more like ocean view." I am not saying everybody thinks this but it would be interesting to see what people who have been going to Peppertree for years think about this. Since I am a guest I am not sure if I can start a thread on this. Would a member please start a separate thread on the question of whether Buildings 17-25 are considered oceanfront by owners. It would interesting to see the percentages.

Take it easy.

Really? Is this necessary? You seem to be getting really worked up over someone's personal opinion. :confused:

You probably have the most posts on this thread of everyone combined. Like many of us, you have been "worked up" over the issues with Festiva and the HOA. Yet you have purchased more time at this resort during this thread's run.

Now you're "worked up" over someone stating their opinion whether the resort is oceanfront or not. It's their opinion. You've got an opinion. :wall: I've got an opinion.

Does this really need to be settled? :eek:
 

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Take it easy.

Really? Is this necessary? You seem to be getting really worked up over someone's personal opinion. :confused:

You probably have the most posts on this thread of everyone combined. Like many of us, you have been "worked up" over the issues with Festiva and the HOA. Yet you have purchased more time at this resort during this thread's run.

Now you're "worked up" over someone stating their opinion whether the resort is oceanfront or not. It's their opinion. You've got an opinion. :wall: I've got an opinion.

Does this really need to be settled? :eek:
Yes I admit I have worn it out so I started a new thread myself that is generic so people in this thread would not have to see it.
 

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OK, so...FYI...my week is (was) week 30 at PABII in Bldg. 18, for 2 units. Whenever my daughter and I called them, AND called Festiva, we got nothing: zero, zip, nada. Well, my very intelligent daughter just happened to find the email addy of none other than the CEO of FESTIVA!!! He attended ECU, as did I, and, unbeknownst to me, she wrote to him as if it was me, lol! Just a few weeks later, I received an email from PAB, asking me to call them (they didn't have my best phone #); I called right away, and was told that they had 2 one-bedroom units for me in Bld. 31. I was astonished, needless to say. EVERY SINGLE TIME that we'd called before they had told us that they would NOT offer anything to us. My daughter and I agree that this was a result of the CEO's intervention. I'm going to c/p the communication(s) that took place.

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 11:43 AM
Hi Mr. Patrick,

You don't know me but I am a fellow graduate of ECU and lifelong resident of Eastern Carolina. Our family have also been lifelong residents of Peppertree at Atlantic Beach, NC. As I'm sure you are aware the past few years have not been kind to the owners of the original buildings of Peppertree, but we kept our spirits up and kept moving forward. We now own two units in Phase "2" for the same week. We chose this week and this location out of loyalty and the fact that all the rest of our immediate family joins us at Peppertree and Atlantic Beach at the same time. Last year it was disconcerting to witness the warning tape affixed to our building but were assured that everything was being taken care of. Now, about a month away from our 35 year tradition of coming to Peppertree, we are being informed that our units will not be ready in time and that there are no alternative accommodations to be had. This is so upsetting to those of us that have dealt with the "blows" and have continued to be supporters of this resort. I attempted to contact customer relations only to be told that there was nothing to be done due to the HOA not allowing for any options. I do not understand this, it is not the HOA's name on the line here, it is Festiva at Peppertree whose name adorns the sign and I do not understand how a business can take our money, paid faithfully every year and not be offered alternative accommodations. Can you help me to understand this?

Thank you,

Cathy Moore

ECU Alum of '78

(I'm sending this from my daughters email because my computer is being repaired)


Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 15:45:13 +0000

Cathy:



I appreciate your comments and share your frustration. The HOA is governed by a board of directors and Festiva nor I have been involved with this process that was brought on by the very aggressive actions of the Town of Atlantic Beach. The HOA Board of Directors hands were tied due to this action and had to move forward with the extensive and expensive rebuilding of the decks. In order to move forward, the HOA needed a $1 million financial commitment before for the repairs could commence. Unfortunately, the banking community was not forthcoming so one of Festiva’s affiliated company’s committed to loan the HOA funds for three years. Once this was done, the renovation began in January. Most of the buildings have reopened but it is my understanding there are a couple of more to be finished.



I know this has been difficult for hundreds of owners and wish the circumstances and timing could have been different. But as I said, the HOA Board had to make some difficult decisions within a short amount of time. I inquired this morning about the opportunity for owners who missed their vacation to be given an opportunity to use the resort later this year and was told that was being discussed and hopefully can occur. However, I am not on the board and cannot speak for what their ultimate policy will be.



I am sure this is an unsatisfactory answer for you but hopefully provided some clarification. For a better update please contact the resort directly.



Thank you,



Butch
 

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Don Clayton used to be the where Butch Patrick is now. I used to email Don Clayton all the time when I had any problems. I knew Don Clayton had retired in the recent past.
 
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I appreciate that.

Yes I admit I have worn it out so I started a new thread myself that is generic so people in this thread would not have to see it.




Like many owners on this thread, I'm looking for real information.

I'm glad the "oceanfront" debate has a separate thread. :)

I was notified a couple of weeks ago that the inspection for Building 17 (where I have a unit) would take place on Friday 7/29. I have check-in next Sunday. I called today and was told that an answer would be provided on Wednesday and I should anticipate a call on Wednesday or Thursday. It's down to the wire on this one.

This thread has been very helpful and I appreciate the information and pictures that have been provided.
 

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I own week 32 with check-in this Sunday. My unit has been rented for some time.

I got the "call" at Noon today. My unit will be available for check-in.

I feel very, very fortunate, knowing many lost the use of their week either last year or this year.

My renter was well aware of the goings-on at Peppertree. She rented my week because she wanted to join family for the week who also own a week 32 in a different building at Peppertree. I am very fortunate that she is my renter and hung in there this whole time. She felt fortunate to find the week that she needed and was confident that I would refund her money at any time if she asked. She has been pro-active in making calls and keeping up with things at the resort and the inspection office.

She paid in full at the time she rented. Neither of us thought that it would play out this long before knowing whether or not the unit would be available for her family's occupancy.

Thank you to my renter. I hope you have a beautiful family vacation next week. You've earned it! :hi:
 

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One of our first timeshare stays, after buying a south Africa week at Dikholo in dec 1998, was at PepperTree Atlantic beach. This being our first official timeshare week and not sure what to bring we actually had a 4x8 trailer full of stuff.. sheets, towels, pots etc and a desk top computer to boot..

yes we were green.

We were assigned to stay in building 27 unit I which was a brand new unit and us being the first or second users in June of 1999.. We had a nice view of the retractable roof of the new pool area and liked the location of resort.

Being across teh small street and having to walk across two parking lots to get to the private was not a big deal then. We had one small child so doing anything was an adventure with diaper bags, food bags, chairs etc.

I noticed the round building and commented how quaint they looked but over all the looked in sorta shabby shape when compared to our new unit.

We did the usual tour and was offered the usual week for an amouint I thought was outragus at the time. The SA unit we bought cost like 2K and the MF, at that time, was $130 a year so the number they sales person gave us for a week and ongoing MF was crazy in my mind so we passed on the deal.

I think remembering seeing the other building under construction as the now 32 and 33 units.

Have to say the unit we had was a nice layout, very well outfitted, and comfortable for sure.. We were quite impressed with the unit and resort.

Its SAD to see what has happens to this once nice resort. When i read that Festiva had weaseled in I knew this was not a good thing and it seem this has been proven out.

It will be interesting to see what happens to the phase 1 units that were torn down. Someone may come in an develop the property and try to sell the unit for 30K and MF of 900 of which I will not be a buyer.

I thought when that happened the proceeds of the property when sold were distributed to the owner but I guess they got the shaft in this deal it appears.
 

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Canton is maybe 10 miles from me. That's not far at all. If you are ever in the area give me a contact. I live near the junction of 8 mile and I-275. Fun to discuss timeshare issues. :)

So excited to see another Tugger from MI. I'm from Novi/Northville.
 

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Considering buying

I found a one BR in building 15 that I was considering buying because the maintenance fees are cheap, and it's the right week for us. But after reading this thread I'm not so sure! Is there any kind of limit to how much they can raise the fees? And how often do they do these special assessments? Also, are the units well maintained? It seems to me that if they let the exteriors go to crap, they probably did the same to the interiors, right?
 

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I haven't stayed at this Atlantic Beach resort for awhile

I found a one BR in building 15 that I was considering buying because the maintenance fees are cheap, and it's the right week for us. But after reading this thread I'm not so sure! Is there any kind of limit to how much they can raise the fees? And how often do they do these special assessments? Also, are the units well maintained? It seems to me that if they let the exteriors go to crap, they probably did the same to the interiors, right?

I can't comment on the interiors. I was in Atlantic Beach in August, prior to selling my Atlantic Beach week 32 to this year's renter. While it was a prime week, I was more than happy to sell it to them for the cost of closing, transfer and the two remaining special assessments. I don't want any more dealings with Festiva.

No, there are no limits on maintenance fees.

I rode through the "resort" prior to making the decision to let my ownership go, while I was staying at another Atlantic Beach timeshare resort. I found the Peppertree resort depressing with not much activity. With the unknowns at Peppertree (sale of Phase I land), I went forward with the sale with no regrets.

That's just my own personal opinion. My renter and I didn't find out this year whether or not the unit would be available until the week prior. Fortunately, my renter hung in there with me to the end, and subsequently decided to purchase the week since her family vacations with other family members every week 32 at the resort. The year prior, I was again fortunate. Week 32 was the last week available for use prior to Phase II being closed.

I was one of the lucky ones not to lose use of my week.

As you've read in this thread, it's been a nightmare for many owners of the resort. Will things improve now that the structural issues have been taken care of? Who knows? But you have to consider, why did Festiva and the HOA let things get to that point? Think of all the owners that dutifully paid their maintenance fees, then the special assessment for 2016 and still didn't have use of their week. I remember one owner in this thread that just wanted to come to the resort for day use during the week that they couldn't use because of repairs, and was treated rather shabbily.

Communication from the HOA and resort, as you must have read, was very poor.

How many owners got fed up and just walked away from their obligation because of all of this?

When owners walk, maintenance fees go up, as the other owners' unpaid fees have to be absorbed by the remaining owners.

I'm out and happy about it. :whoopie:
 
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