In communications with Fairfield (sales reps or internet team), Fairfield/WVO has implied that season and size are now the only factors that matter in determining the trading power of a Fairfield week used for online searching. It does not matter when the week was deposited or what the VEP of the resort is, nor does supply and demand of the resort and region come into play. So the only thing that matters is the number of points used for the deposit, not the location and date of deposit of the actual week that Fairfield assigns. Is this true?
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Online Fairfield/WVO weeks
- Thread starter EAM
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I'm thinking the game keeps changing...
A few years back I remember my 28k blue studio online deposits would pull almost all the same exchanges as a 70k red studio week and then the 28k's became much harder and harder to get ( limited studios ) and appeared weaker in trading. Lately, when I can get them, I stick to depositing 70k red studio deposits. Others have stated anything more than a 70k red doesn't get you anything more. I have yet to deposit a 154k to verify this.
A few years back I remember my 28k blue studio online deposits would pull almost all the same exchanges as a 70k red studio week and then the 28k's became much harder and harder to get ( limited studios ) and appeared weaker in trading. Lately, when I can get them, I stick to depositing 70k red studio deposits. Others have stated anything more than a 70k red doesn't get you anything more. I have yet to deposit a 154k to verify this.
Madge
TUG Member
EAM,
If Fairfield were to deposit an actual timeshare week at a resort, the deposit's Trading Power would be determined in exactly the same way as it is for every other week in our program.
If Fairfield were to deposit an actual timeshare week at a resort, the deposit's Trading Power would be determined in exactly the same way as it is for every other week in our program.
However, Fairfield most often deposits special weeks that represent the number of FairShare Plus points used for the deposit. Trading Power is then assigned to the deposit based on that information.
Follow up question
Madge,
Fairfield RCI deposits are of two types.
1. Standard "invisible" points deposit that cannot currently be used for searching online in RCI.
2."Visible" online weeks that can be used for online searching in RCI. In these cases Fairfield assigns a specific week to the RCI account of a member. In the past these weeks have had whatever trading power RCI has assigned to them, and all of the factors you mentioned appear to affect trading power. These are the weeks that Fairfield now claims will trade in RCI based only on season and size, not the other factors.
Do both types now have the same trading power for the number of points deposited or do the visible deposits still have trading power which reflects all the factors?
Madge,
Fairfield RCI deposits are of two types.
1. Standard "invisible" points deposit that cannot currently be used for searching online in RCI.
2."Visible" online weeks that can be used for online searching in RCI. In these cases Fairfield assigns a specific week to the RCI account of a member. In the past these weeks have had whatever trading power RCI has assigned to them, and all of the factors you mentioned appear to affect trading power. These are the weeks that Fairfield now claims will trade in RCI based only on season and size, not the other factors.
Do both types now have the same trading power for the number of points deposited or do the visible deposits still have trading power which reflects all the factors?
Madge
TUG Member
EAM,
The "invisible" deposits are the special Fairfield deposits. Trading Power for these deposits is based on the number of FairShare Plus points redeemed for them.
The "visible" deposits are visible because they are standard timeshare resort weeks. Trading Power for these weeks is based on all of the usual components I listed above.
The "invisible" deposits are the special Fairfield deposits. Trading Power for these deposits is based on the number of FairShare Plus points redeemed for them.
The "visible" deposits are visible because they are standard timeshare resort weeks. Trading Power for these weeks is based on all of the usual components I listed above.
It was interesting a few weeks ago when I made 2 deposits as VISIBLE weeks in RCI...28,000 Fairfield Points for a blue studio. When they showed up in my account they were invisible deposits. I was rather irritated as I make if very plain what I wanted. I called and was told they do not make VISIBLE deposits for blue studio weeks. I may have done something different with the 56,000 points if I had known that.
Judy
Judy
Republiman
TUG Member
Madge,
I am still not clear on the answer you gave to EAM. You said the:
"invisible" deposits are the special Fairfield deposits. Trading Power for these deposits is based on the number of FairShare Plus points redeemed for them.
So if I ask Fairfield to make an invisible deposit for a two bedroom white week, how do you make the determination of what resort that it is equivalent to?
I think this is a fascinating question because I was wondering if Fairfield invisible weeks are in some ways what we would call "tiger traders." If I have a deposit the equivalent Fairfield points as a 2 bedroom red, is the RCI VC going to see everything available, or is she limited in what she sees in the same way a VC is limited when I ask them to search on my Scottsdale Camelback Resort fixed week.
Thanks,
Fred
I am still not clear on the answer you gave to EAM. You said the:
"invisible" deposits are the special Fairfield deposits. Trading Power for these deposits is based on the number of FairShare Plus points redeemed for them.
So if I ask Fairfield to make an invisible deposit for a two bedroom white week, how do you make the determination of what resort that it is equivalent to?
I think this is a fascinating question because I was wondering if Fairfield invisible weeks are in some ways what we would call "tiger traders." If I have a deposit the equivalent Fairfield points as a 2 bedroom red, is the RCI VC going to see everything available, or is she limited in what she sees in the same way a VC is limited when I ask them to search on my Scottsdale Camelback Resort fixed week.
Thanks,
Fred
Madge
TUG Member
Fred,
The Trading Power is set up in RCI's system for each Fairfield deposit type. If you let Fairfield know what type of exchange you may be interested in through RCI, they will likely be able to advise you which deposit type would work best. This doesn't mean that units will necessarily be available; however, the deposit provided should have the necessary Trading Power to match it.
The Trading Power is set up in RCI's system for each Fairfield deposit type. If you let Fairfield know what type of exchange you may be interested in through RCI, they will likely be able to advise you which deposit type would work best. This doesn't mean that units will necessarily be available; however, the deposit provided should have the necessary Trading Power to match it.
FWIW... It's been said that the invisible deposits do have more trading power than the visibles... This would appear due to the visibles they assign you. such as el cid or branson or williamsburg, etc.
Typically, when I find something with the visible, I contact the VC and use the invisible to secure it. Rarely, have I seen any greatness in the trading power of the invisible over the visible.
I think trying this yourself, you'll see what I mean.
Hope this helps.
Typically, when I find something with the visible, I contact the VC and use the invisible to secure it. Rarely, have I seen any greatness in the trading power of the invisible over the visible.
I think trying this yourself, you'll see what I mean.
Hope this helps.
Madge said:
Madge,
Thanks for the information. Does RCI provide Fairfield guides with the information necessary to match a the trading power of a points deposit to the trading power needed to pull a particular week at a particular resort, or do the Fairfield guides have to learn to estimate what will work based on experience?
EAM
Madge
TUG Member
EAM,
RCI provides FairShare Plus staff with information to help them assign appropriate deposits based on the desired exchange vacations.
RCI provides FairShare Plus staff with information to help them assign appropriate deposits based on the desired exchange vacations.
one more question about offline invisible weeks
Thanks for the information, Madge.
Since we can't search online with the offline invisible weeks, we really cannot judge for ourselves how well they trade.
By using "search first" with FSP/WVO points, can one pull any resort in the RCI inventory (except those with low VEP)?
Thanks for the information, Madge.
Since we can't search online with the offline invisible weeks, we really cannot judge for ourselves how well they trade.
By using "search first" with FSP/WVO points, can one pull any resort in the RCI inventory (except those with low VEP)?
Madge
TUG Member
EAM,
My understanding of the FairShare Plus deposits is that regardless of whether you deposit them outright or "search first", the Trading Power is based on the number of FSP points redeemed.
My understanding of the FairShare Plus deposits is that regardless of whether you deposit them outright or "search first", the Trading Power is based on the number of FSP points redeemed.
Madge,
I understand that trade power for FSP points is based on the number of points. What I would like to know is if FSP points can be used to pull any available week if the points deposit is large enough. I.e. does a 3BR red FSP points deposit have maximum trading power in RCI?
I understand that trade power for FSP points is based on the number of points. What I would like to know is if FSP points can be used to pull any available week if the points deposit is large enough. I.e. does a 3BR red FSP points deposit have maximum trading power in RCI?
acesneights
TUG Member
Madge,
Therefore, would a White 1BR at 77K outdraw a Red Studio at 70K?
Would a Blue 1BR at 63K be almost as good as a Red Studio?
Aces
Therefore, would a White 1BR at 77K outdraw a Red Studio at 70K?
Would a Blue 1BR at 63K be almost as good as a Red Studio?
Aces
Madge
TUG Member
EAM,
Your access to RCI's inventory through Fairfield is based on the number of FairShare Plus points you are redeeming. You will not be able to see "any available week" necessarily.
Your request has Trading Power, even if you're searching in advance of depositing. As I recall, there is a code you present to the Guide when you call, and that represents the type of deposit you will have based on the number of FairShare Plus points you redeemed.
Your access to RCI's inventory through Fairfield is based on the number of FairShare Plus points you are redeeming. You will not be able to see "any available week" necessarily.
Your request has Trading Power, even if you're searching in advance of depositing. As I recall, there is a code you present to the Guide when you call, and that represents the type of deposit you will have based on the number of FairShare Plus points you redeemed.