Official Secrets of OWNERS (please) Four Seasons Aviara Thread

[Kagehitokiri2]

im confused.

registry collection has timeshares? aviara is listed.

you can exchange for fractional villas, hotels, cruises?

 

[GregGH]

Hi Kage

this thread ( see link ) might be a better spot to keep this thought alive ....

http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95687

Aviara is 'unofficial' - owners can do it - the Four Seasons people still deal with II.

Greg

 

[Kagehitokiri2]

aviara owners and i guess scottsdale fractional owners

thanks for clarifying

 

[Kagehitokiri2]

in another thread i started >

Owners of single timeshare weeks at both Four Seasons Aviara and Four Seasons Scottsdale are able to join the Registry Collection. You don't need to be a full or fractional owner.

Steve

 

[GregGH]

Got the e-mail on the clear out of the few remaining units FS is clearing out to existing owners ... since 99% of owners do not know of TUG - be interested in their reaction. I for one thought the pricing was very aggressive ( for a developer clearout ) and the units should get snapped up ... but ... it does remind owners ( some who have paid big $$ ) of the devaluation. Not as much as their GM or TEPCO shares - but.

Not posting the $$ since only for owners and owners will have the e-mail. And let non-owners guess.... Remember that direct buys allows you to swap for hotel credits - if that is important to you.
Regards
Greg

ps- any updates from people at location - are the exterior reno's done - have you seen them start the inside reno's ?? Really looking forward to seeing a completed unit. But will be a long time from the start to the final unit done.

 

[Kagehitokiri2]

still 62 unsold?

 

[moltenlava]

I also got the email. Seriously considering to add more week so I can reserve holiday week. How does the hotel credit swap work? Also is there any other benefit buying directly vs resale?

 

[Sir Newf]

There must be alot of owner interest from the inventory email..I sent an inquiry email the 1st day and got no response. I just called and the message said at least 72 hrs for call response time...I'm asking if there are any EOY.

 

[Steve]

Sir Newf (and related pet parent),

My understanding is that there are no EOY weeks available from the developer.

I have sent you a private message.

Steve

 

[Sir Newf]

To Moltenlava,
It's my understanding that the hotel swap works like this: Your annual maint: ($2,200) becomes your 'bank', you can use that dollar amount for hotel credit, unfortunately, it doesn't buy much in terms of 4 Seasons hotel room rates. then, of course, you lose timeshare for the year, but it might be handy for exotic locations...others can probably add more info..

 

[Kagehitokiri2]

$2,200...unfortunately, it doesn't buy much in terms of 4 Seasons hotel room rates

beach >
$132 punta mita (after $1234 credit)
$230 nevis (after 3rd nt free)
$244 manele bay (after 4th nt free)
$316 costa rica (after 5th nt free)
$385 hualalai (after $1200 spa credit, extremely well regarded)
$414 mauritius (after 3 free nights, with half board, villa with private pool)

other >
$160 carmelo (after 3rd nt free, bungalow)
$197 koele (after 3rd nt free)
$223 hampshire (after 3rd nt free)
$255 hangzhou (after 3rd nt free)
$427 florence (extremely well regarded)

 

[GregGH]

Thanks Kage - you make us all want to do a bot more traveling. Last year I asked my daughter to check out 'George V' - the FS Hotel in Paris that I am always seeing mentioned on some travel show ... she came back and said a very nice spot ( expecting that ) and said she bumped into Vera Wang ... at which point I said ...who ? She just rolled her eyes ... I guess some times dad's just don't follow fashion enough.

I find FS hotels to be expensive AFTER THE FACT ... afterwards is when my wife gets these idea's she see's and wants to do to our home ... ouch .... ( aga1n another man thing I guess )

Greg

 

[Love2TS]

If you want to add someone as a guest to your existing reservation, how long does it take for the resort to confirm?

 

[GregGH]

If you want to add someone as a guest to your existing reservation, how long does it take for the resort to confirm?

why not call - 800-930-4946 or e-mail owners.avr(at)fourseasons(dot)com

BTW --here is latest link on newsletter .... previous versions in pulldown at bottom left ... http://www.fourseasons.com/interlude/2011_M05/#owner_news

Greg

 

[Love2TS]

Thanks, that was useful. It takes only 24 hrs after guest request is faxed in.

 

[zentraveler]

Interval's Four Seasons Resort Suggestions List

Am glad that FS and II have finally teamed up (?) to create a list of comparable resorts. And also glad to see that it seems very selective. Does anyone have any other resorts they would consider comparable in the Hawaiian islands? (i.e. Kona Coast vs KC I vs KC II - am assuming II is the only one on the list for a reason, but would be interested in the opinions of anyone who has stayed in them)

 

[Kagehitokiri2]

could you (easily) post the list?

 

[zentraveler]

could you (easily) post the list?

Just call Member Services and they will send you the PDF.

 

[GregGH]

going thru some old notes and see this ....

http://www.fourseasons.com/residences/2009_exchange_drawing/

Tried different years in the URL - not work - sent a e-mail to owners services ( they open Mon thru Fri ) but wondered if anyone else knows ...since in 2010 the deadline was early Nov ...

for exchange draws to :
Four Seasons Residence Club Costa Rica (“Costa Rica”)
Four Seasons Residence Club Punta Mita (“Punta Mita”)

Since these seen one step up in 'wow factor' - it never hurts to have you name in the draw ?

Greg

ps - anyone going to the annual meeting in early Nov .... love to hear ( see ) details on the upcoming condo renovations ...saw some samples at the Feb board meeting in Feb ...

 

[GregGH]

here is reply -- just at the last minute ....

Good morning and thank you for your email. The information for the 2011 Exchange Drawing was sent out on Friday October 14, 2011. You might try your spam folder as it is sent from a third party and might not have gone straight to your inbox. If you are still unable to locate the email, the link to the exchange drawing has been attached for you below.

2011 Exchange Drawing

Please note the deadline to enter is tomorrow November 1, 2011.

If you require further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us at (800) 930-4946 or via e-mail at Owners.avr@fourseasons.com. Owner Service Representatives are available Monday through Friday, 8:00am to 5:00pm, Pacific Standard Time.

I look forward to assisting you in the future.
Warm regards,

Debbie Pringle
Owner Services Representative

 

[zentraveler]

Tax Re-Assessment email from Owner Services

In case anyone decides to apply for this and needs help (parcel #, assessed value etc.) the San Diego County Assessors can be reached at 858-505-6262. It was very easy to get to a real person, and she was extremely helpful. It was the fastest and easiest I have accomplished anything like this over the phone in a LONG time!

Paperwork needs to be filed by 11/30/11 and the email has attached the form and an example form.

 

[zentraveler]

SFX Preferred for trading FSA?

Looking through some paperwork today I cam across a brochure for SFX Preferred Resorts. Is there any advantage to using them instead of II for FSA exchanges?? I understand they don't usually take studios, but apparently they will if it is desirable enough. Any experience?

 

[Love2TS]

The list of supposedly comparable resorts is in the newsletter for owners. Interestingly they include resorts such as Sheraton Desert Oasis on this list..

Am glad that FS and II have finally teamed up (?) to create a list of comparable resorts. And also glad to see that it seems very selective. Does anyone have any other resorts they would consider comparable in the Hawaiian islands? (i.e. Kona Coast vs KC I vs KC II - am assuming II is the only one on the list for a reason, but would be interested in the opinions of anyone who has stayed in them)

 

[alwysonvac]

Am glad that FS and II have finally teamed up (?) to create a list of comparable resorts. And also glad to see that it seems very selective. Does anyone have any other resorts they would consider comparable in the Hawaiian islands? (i.e. Kona Coast vs KC I vs KC II - am assuming II is the only one on the list for a reason, but would be interested in the opinions of anyone who has stayed in them)

Hi Zentraveler,

As far, as I know there has always been a list of recommended/suggested resorts at least since 2005. FSRC gave me with the list when I asked about the II arrangement years ago.

It's not a list of comparable resorts see verbiage below.

The 2005 list states...
"This list of recommended resorts is offered by Interval International as alternative destinations to your home resort that are Interval standard and quality. Please bear in mind that the level of service and quality of accommodations at any of these resorts may not compare to your Four Seasons product, but they are resorts we feel are comfortable properties in prime destinations. "

The new 2011 list states.....
"This limited selection of Interval International–affiliated properties is a guide to help you identify exchange opportunities based on quality ratings and availability; you are not restricted to requesting only these resorts. The list will be reviewed and updated periodically, in accordance with growth in Interval’s network and member feedback."

2005 list of resorts - see attachment.
2011 list of resorts - http://www.fourseasons.com/interlude/2011_M08/FourSeasons2.pdf

 

[alwysonvac]

Looking through some paperwork today I cam across a brochure for SFX Preferred Resorts. Is there any advantage to using them instead of II for FSA exchanges?? I understand they don't usually take studios, but apparently they will if it is desirable enough. Any experience?

Years ago, the answer was no.
SFX stated that they don't take FSA studios but again that was years ago.