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[TUGBrian]

also thought this was fascinating, though I have no idea how it is able to determine age...it does say this is "predicted"

gender is likely a bit easier if they go off first names!

 

[PigsDad]

also thought this was fascinating, though I have no idea how it is able to determine age...it does say this is "predicted"

Does the 65+ crowd correlate with those who have aol.com email addresses?

Kurt

 

[TUGBrian]

still have a 3.5" aol floppy sitting in a drawer somewhere...was used as a coaster!

 

[pedro47]

I feel The Age Range between 35-44 and 55-64 should be higher. These two age range groups are when most new timeshare are purchased by new owners. IMHO.

 

[TUGBrian]

I would really like to know how they "predict" that age range to be honest...it could just be some sort of wild inaccurate guess as the only thing I provide to the newsletter is an email address.

 

[dioxide45]

I feel The Age Range between 35-44 and 55-64 should be higher. These two age range groups are when most new timeshare are purchased by neew owners. IMHO.

The ranges are all 10 years. The mailing system is also not timeshare specific and is used by thousands of different companies in every industry imaginable.

 

[dioxide45]

I would really like to know how they "predict" that age range to be honest...it could just be some sort of wild inaccurate guess as the only thing I provide to the newsletter is an email address.

It is based on prediction but I would suspect they have access to a lot of data. Many people sign up for stuff with their email and also provide their age or date of birth. Those businesses sell that data to aggregators and even companies like Mailchimp. I would expect it to be relatively accurate.

The ages skew older than the viewers of my YouTube videos but the age bracket ranges are the same. So they may use some data like GoogleAds to comprise the age demographics.

 

[TUGBrian]

very frustrating to see so many active members reporting the newsletter as spam. more than 100 of them again this week already.

 

[PigsDad]

still have a 3.5" aol floppy sitting in a drawer somewhere...was used as a coaster!

I remember attending a white elephant gift exchange for work one Christmas many years ago, and I wrapped up a box of what must have been 30-40 AOL floppies. It was a hit!

Kurt

 

[dioxide45]

very frustrating to see so many active members reporting the newsletter as spam. more than 100 of them again this week already.

Does the system capture when someone uses their mail app to mark the email as spam? Or are the recipients using the unsubscribe link?

 

[TUGBrian]

these are all from yahoo and its the yahoo mail anti-spam feedback email that gets sent to the sending email address.

they are automatically unsubscribed when this happens yes, however those yahoo auto emails all get sent separately.

i really wouldnt care if it were from the non member list (emails that just sign up thru the form)...but so many of these are paying members its somewhat disturbing. I also fear that with so many of those spam abuse reports, even our regular mail is just going to go into spam folders for any yahoo hosted emails.

 

[dioxide45]

I think the problem is that people just use the spam report as a method to sort their email. Moving stuff they don't deem necessary from their inbox. They don't realize or care about the implications for the sender. I can understand the issue as Yahoo will start to deem all emails from that address as spam and filter them out for all Yahoo users. I understand that ATT also still utilizes Yahoo for their email. So addresses like att.net, sbcglobal.net and many others are all Yahoo.

 

[TUGBrian]

oh no doubt, my only concern was the significant increase in moving to mailchimp.

in the grand scheme of things, 150 out of tens of thousands of emails is a trivial amount, but when you are sending to essentially the same list and expect less than 10 spam reports each week, seeing that number so much higher has me scratching my head!

the anti-spam feedback email gives me the email address of the person who reported it, they are all yahoo.com emails.

 

[pedro47]

I read it this morning no problems.

 

[TheHolleys87]

Ours is sent to our sbcglobal.net address and arrived in our inbox just fine.

I think the problem is that people just use the spam report as a method to sort their email. Moving stuff they don't deem necessary from their inbox. They don't realize or care about the implications for the sender. I can understand the issue as Yahoo will start to deem all emails from that address as spam and filter them out for all Yahoo users. I understand that ATT also still utilizes Yahoo for their email. So addresses like att.net, sbcglobal.net and many others are all Yahoo.

Ohhh, this may explain why some things I have sent to my yahoo address come to my Inbox as desired for a while, then all of a sudden they start showing up in the Junk file. I read mail in the Inbox on my iPhone email client as well as on desktop in Outlook, but I rarely look at the Junk file on the phone, so I’ve never been quite sure whether it’s Yahoo or Microsoft that ignores my instructions to put them on the safe list and deliver to my inbox. Thanks for the tip - I’ll start checking Junk on the phone more often!

 

[dioxide45]

Ours is sent to our sbcglobal.net address and arrived in our inbox just fine.

Ohhh, this may explain why some things I have sent to my yahoo address come to my Inbox as desired for a while, then all of a sudden they start showing up in the Junk file. I read mail in the Inbox on my iPhone email client as well as on desktop in Outlook, but I rarely look at the Junk file on the phone, so I’ve never been quite sure whether it’s Yahoo or Microsoft that ignores my instructions to put them on the safe list and deliver to my inbox. Thanks for the tip - I’ll start checking Junk on the phone more often!

I understand that mail app on your phone won't do any sorting of the email. It just sees it as Yahoo moves them between ibox and spam. If you have another email client (like Outlook) on a computer, it may move emails to or from spam depending on rules and bulk mail settings you have setup in that client.

 

[TUGBrian]

yep, most major email providers use their own internal (or shared) spam filters/algorithms to determine what emails go into what folders within their systems inbox/spam/promotions/social/etc.

its not perfect thats for sure, especially with the amount of legitimate spam I still get in my inbox!

 

[TUGBrian]

guess everyone got it out of their system and the mailing list cleaned itself up as this week everything is back to normal!

TUG Week 35 Newsletter! 🏝️

(fixed the link)

 

[pedro47]

I got it and I liked the video.

 

[TUGBrian]

thank you! its easily the most popular to date (well in the first 24 hours!)...hope that trend continues!