[official 2017 vistana maintenance fee thread]

[dioxide45]

Thanks Mod.

Though it needed to be added to the actual post. Now there is no knowing what property the MF in the first post is for.

 

[okwiater]

WLR 2017 MFs

Westin Lagunamar 2-bedroom lockoff EOY

2017 MFs = $682.56
2016 MFs = $695.39

This represents a decrease of $12.83, or a reduction of 1.85%.

 

[YYJMSP]

Westin Lagunamar 2-bedroom lockoff EOY

2017 MFs = $682.56
2016 MFs = $695.39

This represents a decrease of $12.83, or a reduction of 1.85%.

Appears to be largely due to "exchange rate favorability" for electricity?

The rest of the significant items (common expenses and replacement reserve) pretty much cancel each other out.

 

[YYJMSP]

Wdw 2br l/o eoy

0.8% increase.

2017 $614.71 + $161.43 reserves + $56.71 taxes = $832.85

2016 $613.87 + $153.51 reserves + $58.75 taxes = $826.13

Looks like a fairly large increase in wages and repairs, which was mostly offset by a very large decrease in insurance expense.

 

[VacationForever]

Sheraton Vistana Resort Lakes Phase 2BR L/O Annual

2017 Maintenance Fees: $980.17
2017 Property Tax: 171.74
Total: $1,151.91

2016 Maintenance Fees: $985.41
2016 Property Tax: 166.35
Total: $1,151.76

Basically flat. MF actually went down and Property Tax went up. Yippee!!!!

 

[komosatp]

Got HRA in mail yesterday. Here are the Phase II numbers (and Prior):

1 BR - $1,670.09 ($1,668.28)
1 BR prem - $1,786.95 ($1,787.54)
2 BR - $2,003.15 ($1,998.65)
2 BR LO - $3,171.88 ($3,191.30)
3 BR - $3,388.74 ($3,403.02)

ETA: I just noticed the amount I paid was like 20 cents different than what is on the budgets. Anybody know what that is about and/or is the variance the magnitude for the larger units? I have the smallest unit.

 

[YYJMSP]

for a 2BR unit, proposed is:

MF - $784.48
Reserve - $219.56

for a total of $1,004.04. Does not include property taxes.

Past experience is that this is rubber-stamped through to the final bills...

Compared to a total of $978.20 last year, so a 2.6% increase, almost 3/4ths of which is an increase in the Reserve (looks like jumps in funds for building painting and unit furnishings, etc, sounds like a ramp-up for a refresh?)

The actual MF bill matches the proposed above. Add another $178.55 for real estate taxes.

 

[YYJMSP]

for a 2BR unit, proposed is:

MF - $589.36
Reserve - $169.11

for a total of $758.47. Does not include property taxes.

Past experience is that this is rubber-stamped through to the final bills...

Compared to a total of $744.63 last year, so a 1% increase

Actual MF bill matches the above proposed amounts, add another $96.34 for real estate taxes.

The docs say it's a 1.9% increase, almost all of the net increase is in the replacement reserve fund.

 

[YYJMSP]

I have to pay in CAD so "unchanged" is a moot point once I take currency exchange in to account.



Here's hoping for a swing in rates in the right direction and this is actually lower than last year from an out-of-pocket perspective...

Well the bills are all in, and in USD we're spending 6.8% LESS than last year :whoopie:

I'd love to see that as an ongoing trend, but last year included the SAs for retroactive property taxes at WKORV and WKORVN.

If the CAD/USD exchange holds roughly where it is today, we're out of pocket 9% less than last year.

 

[okwiater]

2017 SMV 2-Bedroom Lockoff

2017 SMV 2-Bedroom Lockoff

$1406.41 + $56.98 property tax = $1468.39
(Last Year: $1373.22 + $44.48 property tax = $1417.70)

This is a 3.58% increase, or a 2.42% increase if you exclude property taxes from the calculation.

 

[Joshadelic]

SVV Bella - Platinum 2br l/o annual...

Maintenance Fee(s)

$1,330.81
Tax - If Applicable

$194.78
Membership Fee - If Applicable

$140.00
Current Year Charges

$1,665.59

Last year was $1,630.78, so this year was an increase of 2.13%.
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SDO - Platinum 1br annual...

Maintenance Fee(s)

$660.75
Tax - If Applicable

$0.00
Membership Fee - If Applicable

$45.00
Current Year Charges

$705.75

Last year was $694.23, so this year was an increase of 1.66%.

 

[dioxide45]

I think it skews the numbers, and percentages, some to include the VSN fee in the numbers. That number seems pretty steady year to year, but it is the MFs billed by the HOA that matter most in these numbers. Marriott enrolled owners don't include the DC Annual Fee in their calculations.

 

[Joshadelic]

I think it skews the numbers, and percentages, some to include the VSN fee in the numbers. That number seems pretty steady year to year, but it is the MFs billed by the HOA that matter most in these numbers. Marriott enrolled owners don't include the DC Annual Fee in their calculations.

All of the raw numbers are there, so you can calculate the increase in whatever way you think is most accurate. I included the 'Membership Fee'. You're welcome to not include it if that works better for you. Either way the overall increase is about the same. Keep in mind that the $140 or $45 fee can increase each year as well. Two years ago those fees were $134 and $39, so I would think that one should take any increase (or lack of increase) to that fee into account when calculating a percentage.

All that being said, if you do take the 'Membership Fee' out of the equation, the increase on my SVV MF is 2.36% and SDO is 1.77% - not enough of a difference to skew the numbers.