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Cindy,

If you get an East Village unit, it will be in one of the northern buildings (not the newest complex at River Island - that is reserved for River Island owners (not even every-day OLCC owners, just those that bought that complex).

That said, East village is a nice quiet area, much as is the original West Village. If you do get West Village, youare likely to be in a unit that was recently refurbished, so little loss there too.

As for the amount of traffic we see when discussing OLCC, a good part of it is because the resort is so large, and so many people have visited. I try not to jump in unless I notice something has been left out - like a direct question being left unanswered, or answered in a way that is not accurate.

That said, there are some opionions that deserve to have a differing viewpoint as well - the question regarding the lighting in North Village is one of them. Yes, the lights are on in the evening, but if that is brought up as an issue without the corresponding view of people who have staying in those units, who were not bothered by the lights, it may become a case of driving an exchanger away when it is not necessary.

As for the grills, and some other "missing" amenities, these are the choices of the owners. If the owners want grills, the owner will request them, and they might eventually be installed. I prefer we not have them - just judging by the way I've seen them used at other resorts, the behavior of some guests when using them, and the maintenance issues, I think we're better off without them. Then of course there's the issue of the wildlife habitat to consider as well. Then there's internet access - While the guests who are posting on the various online review sites care about interenet access, I wonder what percentage of guests really care. Sure it would be nice, but it would be a significant cost to upgrade the entire resort - either through wiring or a massive series of wireless access points. To do so would mean an increase in maintenance fees for a service that I suspect a small percentage of visitors would use. Of course, the resort could charge for the access, but then those who are budget minded will still use dialup service rather than pay. These are choices the owners get to make - internet service, upgrades to reach 5-star of GC status. Visitors mike like us to upgrade, but it would be our money they are spending, not theirs.
 

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The developer being present at OLCC is keeping it GC

When the developer is done, which may never happen because there is still lots of space for more buildings, the HOA will have to listen to exchangers. Most resorts have to concern themselves with those comment card/report card grades. Exchangers determine what status your resort will have with RCI after the developer is gone, not the owners. Developers cannot sell Silver Crown, they have to say the resort is GC, or they could not sell anything.

Yes, before I get criticism for that opinion, I realize that most of the units at OLCC are very nice and deserve GC status, especially the newest units, :) so I am not debating the quality of the resort. I just know as a board member of one of our resorts that those comment cards have lots of suggestions for amenities. We take those comments very seriously and consider each and every one. Exchangers have their own ideas as to what makes their stays special. I would bet that the lack of BBQ grills are a comment that OLCC gets on occasion.

Are the owners in the newest units ever going to exchange anywhere? That is the biggest selling point of timeshare. If they do, perhaps I would get one. :) Maybe not in the near future, but after a lot of the units are sold.
 

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Cindy, after talking to a few salespeople over the last few years, my guess is that the River Island units will be the last TS units built at OLCC. The East Village is done unless some buildings still need to be finished and released. We own in bldg 87900 which is near the Legends Clubhouse at the end of the road. It is quiet up there, and we have a great view of the Disney fireworks at night.
 

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What a nightmare

gjw007 said:
Some of you might find this link interesting, http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache...club+orlando+future&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=17. If you consider that OLCC currently has about 2000 units and expects to grow to roughly 4500 units, there is plenty of development that is still to occur at OLCC.
Heaven help those who have to figure out who owns and pays for what even at its current unwieldly size - forget if it ever grows to over 4500 units. Somethings can be just too big and mega-resorts have all the signs of being one of them as owners such as myself are finding out at the Westgate complex.
 

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I was wondering...do owners feel that OLCC, being such a "mega" resort, has a negative effect on their trading power? I mean, a possible growth to 4500 units..that's a lot of units in an area that has tons of timeshares/hotel rooms/WDW Resorts to compete with. That along with the fact that "supply & demand" is a part of the RCI trade power equation.....

It just seems that with my poorest traders I can always pull OLCC 2 years to 6 months in advance, even in the busiest holiday period.
 

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Some recent, pertinent facts:

--In a discussion with OL, they told me that management listens to all comments and feedback, from both owners and non-owners, to assist them is assessing future decisions. That is what prompted my post to encourage others to ask for additional amenities they may desire. They were very polite, as they always have been.

If you go to their web-site, the contact page http://www.orangelake.com/contact_us/contact_us.html you will see that's true. It does, however, distinguish between owners and guests.

--Not long ago I posted a story I found in a Google search. It said that the eventual weekly guest count at OL could be as high as 20,000. That would be mega.

Even at 2000 units, since some have occupancy of 12 and most (?) of 8, when the resort is full it is a small city now.
 
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magiroux said:
I was wondering...do owners feel that OLCC, being such a "mega" resort, has a negative effect on their trading power? I mean, a possible growth to 4500 units..that's a lot of units in an area that has tons of timeshares/hotel rooms/WDW Resorts to compete with. That along with the fact that "supply & demand" is a part of the RCI trade power equation.....

It just seems that with my poorest traders I can always pull OLCC 2 years to 6 months in advance, even in the busiest holiday period.

And we are happy to have you visit!!! :)

As far as trades go, I can tell you that I've always received the trade I want, when I want it. I have no complaints. My OL units always show me more in a search than our other properties, and they are GC too.
 

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Have not visited yet, but looking forward to it. It does sound like a resort with lots to offer. I'm just hoping I get put in a GC unit :D .

The fact that there is still high trade power, for a resort that has so many units even at this stage, seems to indicate there is also high demand.
 
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magiroux said:
It just seems that with my poorest traders I can always pull OLCC 2 years to 6 months in advance, even in the busiest holiday period.
Not in the least - we too have gotten the trades we want, and with an October week. If we had a prime week, trades would be even easier. Remember that demand is not just based on Orlando in general, but is resort specific. Demand for OLCC is higher than for many of the Orlando resorts, even if supply is high.

Have you seen the prices of Orlando attractions lately? If you want park hopping, you now have to pay extra for it (or lo9ok at it as a discount to forgo hopping). Same with tickets that don't expire. That just makes it more likely that people will be looking for more of a destination resort. Our last visit to Orlando, we didn't visit any theme park, and had a wonderful vacation. I don't know if I could have said that for ALL of the Orlando resorts.
 

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Since we've gotten away from the original topic, and are now talking about trading power, etc., I'll join.

The exchange companies have had their favorites when it comes to Orlando resorts.

Westgate had a falling out with RCI in the early 90's when they sued each other, one saying breach of contract and the other saying restraint of trade. As a result Westgate became a feather in II's cap. The original Westgate, WVV, is dual-affiliated and all the ones since are II.

Orange Lake has been the feather in RCI's cap. Actually, when you talk to the sales staff at OL, it is more like RCI is fortunate to have OL, that they cow-tow to OL. It seems logical that OL would get favortism from RCI, if they do.

Anyway, that's a little history lesson.
 

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JLB said:
Orange Lake has been the feather in RCI's cap.

And Disney's too. :) Of all the Orlando timeshare properties to choose from, OL was Disney's first choice for their offsite planning center. :)
 
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I gotta see this place

I'm about 2 years into timesharing and TUG. All I know is that anything that stirs up this much emotion is worth a trip. I'm booked for OLCC, Thanksgiving, 2007!
 

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There has never been any doubt that OL is a one-of-a-kind novelty.
 

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Holly said:
I'm about 2 years into timesharing and TUG. All I know is that anything that stirs up this much emotion is worth a trip. I'm booked for OLCC, Thanksgiving, 2007!
Enjoy your trip and have a great time!
 
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