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newport coast trade for hawaii

shoeslover05

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How hard it's to trade Newport coast week for Hawaii? I’m thinking of purchasing a resale Newport coast week and was wondering how hard will the trading be through II since the point system change? I noticed that Hawaii maintenance fee is a lot more than Newport coast. For the same price, I can get a resale week annual at Newport coast vs ko olina every other year. Please advise….thank you!
 
I think a good NCV week will easily trade into Hawaii if you are a little flexible. For instance, it may not trade into a 2BR July 4th unit at one of Maui Ocean Club's new towers. Also, reserving a good week at NCV can be a pain in the you know what, due to overselling the high demand season there.

When you compare every other year to every year, remember the fees are 50% for every other year owners. This is why we bought EOY at Hawaii.

I easily reserved a 4th of July week at Waiohai for 2011 as an owner. At NCV you would be very lucky to reserve a July through mid-August week as a platinum single week owner due to the overwhelming demand vs number of platinum owners.

If you are going to buy for the sole purpose of trading I would suggest a resort that has lock-off units, and NCV does not.

I hope this post does not come across as a bash to NCV, because it's not. NCV is a great resort as one can tell by the lack of availability there,
 
Hawaii trades are easier than they have ever been.
The economy can be thanked for that.

That said, don't count on a summer trade. Sure, it may happen, but owners typically fight among themselves for school vacation times.
As the economy improves, yet more flexibility will be required to bag Hawaii.

My advice is to buy where you want to go. If you intend to go to Hawaii eoy, then buy Hawaii. The higher m'f's are the cost of access to the reservation calendar.

If infinitely flexible, that is another story.
 
Thank you for the tips.

My kids are still young thus we don't have to worry much about getting into the summer season. However, that is going to change when they start school. That said, I'm better off getting something that I can have easy access too. That bring up my next question, if I purchase a EOY at ko olina, does that mean I have to pay the maintenance fee for every year or just the year that I have right of usage?

Last note on newport coast, I was told at the sell presentation before the point conversion that since we are local (we are 25 min from the resort) we can access the resort facility at no charge as long as we don't check in and leave the facility before day end. To me that is a big plus b/c I would love to drive the kids there on a hot summer day and enjoy the pool, view, bbq, ect.

We only wish to go to Hawaii EOY b/c we have a marriott red ski week in vail, co. What I struggling with is that I can't determine, which is better since newport coast gives us the use of facility option; however, trading into hawaii is unpredictable. If I buy ko olina, then don't have the use of the newport coast facility at all. :shrug:
 
shoeslover05 said:
Thank you for the tips.

My kids are still young thus we don't have to worry much about getting into the summer season. However, that is going to change when they start school. That said, I'm better off getting something that I can have easy access too. That bring up my next question, if I purchase a EOY at ko olina, does that mean I have to pay the maintenance fee for every year or just the year that I have right of usage?

Last note on newport coast, I was told at the sell presentation before the point conversion that since we are local (we are 25 min from the resort) we can access the resort facility at no charge as long as we don't check in and leave the facility before day end. To me that is a big plus b/c I would love to drive the kids there on a hot summer day and enjoy the pool, view, bbq, ect.

We only wish to go to Hawaii EOY b/c we have a marriott red ski week in vail, co. What I struggling with is that I can't determine, which is better since newport coast gives us the use of facility option; however, trading into hawaii is unpredictable. If I buy ko olina, then don't have the use of the newport coast facility at all. :shrug:
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Newport Coast does afford its owners day use. You must own NC to take advantage of it.

EOY's are billed annually. The use-year fees are the same as an annual, just billed at 50% each year.
 
Fredm said:
Newport Coast does afford its owners day use. You must own NC to take advantage of it.

EOY's are billed annually. The use-year fees are the same as an annual, just billed at 50% each year.
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So, say if EOY maintenance fee in hawaii is $850. Does that mean, I will be bill $425/annually? Thanks!
 
shoeslover05 said:
So, say if EOY maintenance fee in hawaii is $850. Does that mean, I will be bill $425/annually? Thanks!
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More like if the eoy m/f's are $850, you will pay $850 annually.
The use-year fees would then be $1700, which sounds more like it.
The fees for annual use would be 1700 every year.
If the annual use m/f's are 850, then the eoy billing would be 425/yr.
 
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Also, I believe Newport has a limit as to the number of people who can use the day-use privilege each day. During busy times they want to control the number of people using the pools and facilities.

I think there are some Marriott resorts that used to offer day use to owners but have discontinued this practice (Park City Marriotts?). You might want to call Newport and find out the latest information about this program if this is a consideration as to why you would buy.
 
Fredm said:
More like if the eoy m/f's are $850, you will pay $850 annually.
The use-year fees would then be $1700, which sounds more like it.
The fees for annual use would be 1700 every year.
If the annual use m/f's are 850, then the eoy billing would be 425/yr.
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Fred is correct. MF's for a Marriott in Hawaii are likely $1,700 for every year, $850 for EOY. But you will be billed $850 every year, that's just how Marriott does the MF's for an EOY unit.
 
LAX Mom said:
Fred is correct. MF's for a Marriott in Hawaii are likely $1,700 for every year, $850 for EOY. But you will be billed $850 every year, that's just how Marriott does the MF's for an EOY unit.
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I called newport coast and they told me that if I own a week usage then I have privilege for day usage; however, if I buy into the new point system then no b/c if I buy points I don't own at any resort.

Lastly, I'm totally confused as to the maintenance fee for EOY. You are saying that, I have to pay for the maintenance fee even on the year I don't have right of usage? That doesn't sound fair, no?
 
shoeslover05 said:
Lastly, I'm totally confused as to the maintenance fee for EOY. You are saying that, I have to pay for the maintenance fee even on the year I don't have right of usage? That doesn't sound fair, no?
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Ok let's start over.

If you own an annual use, then you pay 100% of the maintenance fees annually. If the annual fees are 1700, then you pay 1700 every year.

If you own an eoy, you pay 50% of the annual fee every year, or 850.
So, every use-year, you will have paid the 1700 to use the timeshare (850x2).

Both the annual and eoy owner pay the same amount to use the timeshare each time they use it (1700).

Put differently, instead of paying 1700 every other year, you are paying 850 every year. It is just how Marriott bills it.
 
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NCV Trade for Hawaii

I have this week deposited with Interval International:

Newport Coast - 9/11 to 9/18/2010

When I do a search right now for the period 09/2010 to 09/2012 for a unit for 2 people in Hawaii...so that would allow for a studio exchange... I see the following:

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!

I know others have had success trading into Maui -- but just wanted to paint a realistic picture of what comes up for me today.
 
It is not unusual to see no availability for Hawaii when searching on II. The best way to get Hawaii, is to put in a request at least 12 months before you would like to travel. Most Hawaii weeks go to people that have request and most do not fall in the instant exchange pool. The exception to this the 60 day flex period. You will often find Hawaii during this period. I always make a reservation where I want to stay and then cancel it if I get an exchange. In the last week I got confirmation for 2 consecutive weeks at Ko Olina for early June 2011.:clap:
 
Put in an ongoing exchange request with II, do not rely on checking yourself. Ongoing exchange requests get filled first so it is not surprising they do not have inventory as all of the high demand weeks get confirmed changes before ever getting into the searchable exchange pool. Call II and get an ongoing exchange request in asap.
 
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NCV exchange to Hawaii

I've been concerned about doing a Request First exchange to Hawaii because I want to use FF Miles for plane tickets. How do I cover that contingency?
 
b2bailey said:
I've been concerned about doing a Request First exchange to Hawaii because I want to use FF Miles for plane tickets. How do I cover that contingency?
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Some ideas include: book a hotel (most are refundable up to the day of check-in), rent a timeshare and purchase travel insurance (to cover your cancellation), book another TS using another TS you may own.

I believe I've always booked flights first (with FF miles) and worried about the accommodations second. But again, I don't always do things the 'correct' way LOL
 
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Hawaii trade...

I always make a reservation where I want to stay and then cancel it if I get an exchange.
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This wouldn't work for me cuz I couldn't AFFORD to pay to stay at any of the Marriott Resorts.

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I have been successful using the 'last minute' type exchanges, in fact I've been to Hawaii 3 times in the past 3 years. I was just wanted to let the OP know it wasn't going to be THAT EASY to get the trade for Hawaii. (If it was, nobody would buy in Hawaii, right?) And who knows with all the new changes?
 
In the past, I've not had a hard time trading into Hawaii. However, in spite of all the conversation to the contrary, this year seems to be a different story. Hawaii, at least for me, has so far been a tough trade. I have had two requests in for 12 months for any marriott using a 2BR Beach Place unit. and have had the second request in using a deposited KCR 2BR, requesting again any marriott and a few other 5 star (or whatever they're calling them these days) resorts.

The weeks I'm requesting are the last week in Feb. thru the first two in March for 2011. So far nothing has come through. I'm not really worried yet, I have my FF airfare set and if nothing comes up I can either buy an extra week at KCR (I own there) or use Marriott points. But, as I've said, Hawaii, at least for me, has been anything but easy.
 
We have owned Newport Coast for 7 years and have only used it as a home resort once. We've had great luck trading through II: twice to Maui, once to Kauai, (and into Aruba, St. Kitts, & Boston).

As already noted above, the key to getting a good trade is in booking a highly tradable week at Newport Coast, and then putting in your request as early as possible with II...then wait.

If your exchange request lists multiple weeks and resorts you're willing to trade into, it helps (we've always stayed at Marriotts). We have also been willing to sometimes give up our 2 bedroom for a 1 bedroom at the location and time we want - obviously II jumps all over that! Being flexible helps, if your travel party will allow it.
 
gds75 said:
We have owned Newport Coast for 7 years and have only used it as a home resort once. We've had great luck trading through II: twice to Maui, once to Kauai, (and into Aruba, St. Kitts, & Boston).

As already noted above, the key to getting a good trade is in booking a highly tradable week at Newport Coast, and then putting in your request as early as possible with II...then wait.

If your exchange request lists multiple weeks and resorts you're willing to trade into, it helps (we've always stayed at Marriotts). We have also been willing to sometimes give up our 2 bedroom for a 1 bedroom at the location and time we want - obviously II jumps all over that! Being flexible helps, if your travel party will allow it.
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Hi!

I got a question for you. I'm interested in purchasing a resale week to NCV b/c I like option of day usage at the resort w/out using points/week.

Now, my question to you is, it's easy to trade into hawaii with a gold NCV week or do I need a platinum week.

Thanks!
 
Two out my three NCV trades to Hawaii, MAW to be precise, have been with gold NCV. I prefer to travel shoulder season and these exchanges were October/November, most recently Thanksgiving 2008. I generally will exchange the gold interval, unless I book it for Easter, where renting it is a more profitable path. Two season owner at NCV for seven use years.
 
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