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New York City Marathon Cancelled

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How bad does NYC look after stating the marathon would go ahead on Sunday and then cancel it 36 hours before the start?

The mayor should have cancelled as soon as the storm was over. I would think that if NYRR's cancelled it there would be financial problems but with the city cancelling it they would have insurance.

It would be nice if one or both come up with money to reimburse peoples expenses in travelling to NY for it.
 
The fact this was ever up for debate is pretty pathetic. [comment deleted] ...this just further supports it.
 
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am1 said:
It would be nice if one or both come up with money to reimburse peoples expenses in travelling to NY for it.
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It would seem to me there are other much more pressing needs in NYC than reimbursing expenses of marathon runners.
 
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It would seem to me there are other much more pressing needs in NYC than reimbursing expenses of marathon runners.
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There is a lot of pressing needs. It should have been cancelled a lot sooner. After [comment deleted] stated numerous times the marathon would go ahead thousands of people changed plans (incurring more costs) to get to NYC.

Do not get me wrong I think it is good it is cancelled it just should have been done a lot sooner.

I do think a boycott of future years would be a appropriate [comment deleted].
 
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I imagine that officials in the affected areas are facing many things that they've never come up against before, and perhaps there was a good deal of optimism behind the original decision to not cancel. But it's good to see that rational minds have prevailed, most importantly because the people who are directly affected by Sandy need to know that their needs are not being usurped by something that in the light of day is relatively trivial.

Let's all be glad that the correct decision was eventually made, better late than never.
 
I will believe that it was the sponsors that eventually cancelled it. 500k a year plus bonuses and kickbacks will go a long way in helping those out of pocket.

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Clemson, I am sure you would feel different if you took off work for a week and spent thousands travelling to NYC.

Its sad that once what was a great event is getting so much more attention then it ever has because of this.
 
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... Its sad that once what was a great event is getting so much more attention then it ever has because of this.
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I think you might be attaching a significance to all this that isn't necessary. There's no reason that the event won't be as great as it always has been, next year and every year after when the city is prepared for it.

* And now with my moderator tiara on (because who doesn't love a tiara!) - Any more comments related to the perceived politics of this situation will be deleted, and the TUGgers who make those comments will be subjected to the penalties outlined in the REMINDER - Political Posts Not Permitted sticky above.
 
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I am sure you would feel different if you took off work for a week and spent thousands travelling to NYC.
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And I am equally sure that the millions of people in the Sandy affected area would gladly take a week off work instead of the tragedy that has befallen them. Lighten up. Cancelling the marathon was the right thing to do. Get over it.

If you are going to be there anyway, volunteer your expertise. Work in a soup kitchen. Carry water up to shut-in people whose elevator doesn't work, donate blood. Write a check.

Jim
 
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This complaint is coming across as pretty petty IMO.
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+1 Persons are dealing with property loss attributed to the hurricane and loss of loved ones, businesses are shut down, and I commend the decision. I do not have a lot of sympathy for someone who relied on Bloomberg's initial stance and made travel arrangements to this devasted area solely for the marathon. Common sense dictates that travelers should strongly consider postponing trips while the city cleans up and restores power.
 
Yeah, if you are there, enjoy the city, just as you would have done before and after the race. Now you have more time to do something else.
 
I gotta say as one who has lived thru some devastating hurricanes, I was really shocked at the total denial that the city officials are in when it comes to timelines in restoring normalcy to the a city struck with a catastrophe. :ponder:

It took us years to get back to normal. Power was out for up to 30 days in some areas and some never got their power back because their homes were beyond repair and had to be completely gutted and rebuilt.

The looting alone kept the cops here busy for months. We had curfews in place for weeks. How NY thought they wouldn't have to face these issues is beyond me. I guess they want to just pretend that this is all going to go away if they act as if all is fine.:shrug:

I'm sad to see what has happened to the city. :( I was born in NYC and am actually planning on visiting in December. Hopefully things will be better by then, but if this storm had hit before my trip, I'd have cancelled because they certainly don't need more people potentially using up precious resources at this difficult time. :bawl:
 
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Clemson, I am sure you would feel different if you took off work for a week and spent thousands travelling to NYC.
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No, I'm 100% sure I would not feel different.

I know the marathon well too as I grew up on Long Island and my father ran it 3 times while I was growing up.
 
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No, I'm 100% sure I would not feel different.
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Then you would not have changed your travel itinerary to get to NYC after your original plans were cancelled. People should have known not to go but after the 2 powerful people said multiple times the race was on then I have some sympathy for them.

Other than public outcry and accepting what was the case 4 days ago what has changed in making the decision?

The event may be as great or greater next year but if Wittenburg is in charge I would not trust anything about it.

I understand Boston and Chicago adapting because of heat in recent years but NYCM and NYC became a joke because of how they handled the situation.

I guess I agree with everyone here accept that people out of pocket because of the failure to act should be compensated. I do not think that it would ever happen. Hopefully, a full refund and discount/automatic entry into next years race. International packages should refund everything.

I had no plan to race and after the hurricane to watch this years event. In the past, I have watched a few times along the course and more on tv or live streaming.
 
What is sad, is the Marathon is getting any attention at all, in the wake of THIS

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Clemson, I am sure you would feel different if you took off work for a week and spent thousands travelling to NYC.

Its sad that once what was a great event is getting so much more attention then it ever has because of this.
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This is just plain common sense, this race should of been either, postponed or cancelled. It is sad that sometimes highly intelligent people can be so severely lacking in common sense.

There are hundreds of thousands of people struggling to find food, shelter and clothing, just to survive and in dire need of assistance. The mayor of NYC along with other's seem to think they can, run a major event that normally requires hundreds of voluters along with community resources? I just don't get how anyone thought they could pull this off? So incredibly stupid in my opinion!

If I was a runner, I would of cancelled the trip, and not needed to hear from any sponsor that this was finally, justifiably cancelled.

In fact what should happen is all those marathoners should keep their plans to be in NYC and volunteer to help in any way they can!
 
I can't imagine going to an area hit by a natural disaster so soon after unless I was there to do something useful. Playing tourist or running/supporting a footrace wouldn't cut it but that's just me.
 
I have a brother who has run the NYC marathon and several others. His comment:

"Let's keep this in perspective. It's an unprecedented situation. I think the confusion and indecision is understandable. I would have been disappointed, but would find a way to make the trip worthwhile."

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Talent312 said:
I have a brother who has run the NYC marathon and several others. His comment:

"Let's keep this is perspective. It's an unprecedented situation. I think the confusion and indecision is understandable. I would have been disappointed, but would find a way to make the trip worthwhile."

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That sounds about right to me. Our daughter Eileen's friend Chelsea trained all year to run it as a charity event, raising money for a childrens' Crohn's Disease organization. She suffers from the disease herself so you can imagine how much extra effort she had to put into the training. She went in to the city on Thursday and is staying with her sister in Manhattan; Eileen and four other friends were supposed to take the Amtrak early this morning and stay until Monday. They would have gone ahead with their plans if the race was on but canceled as soon as the race was called. Of course they're disappointed all around, especially Chelsea, but they're not angry or trying to blame anyone. What's the sense in that?
 
am1 said:
How bad does NYC look after stating the marathon would go ahead on Sunday and then cancel it 36 hours before the start?

The mayor should have cancelled as soon as the storm was over. I would think that if NYRR's cancelled it there would be financial problems but with the city cancelling it they would have insurance.

It would be nice if one or both come up with money to reimburse peoples expenses in travelling to NY for it.
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As with any other travel, people intending to go to NYC for the marathon should have purchased travel insurance. If they didn't . . . so sorry, so sad but it's on them.
 
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As with any other travel, people intending to go to NYC for the marathon should have purchased travel insurance. If they didn't . . . so sorry, so sad but it's on them.
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Even after the mayor and head of the NYCM repeatedly said the event would go forward????

Should registrations fees be refunded and everyone allowed to run in 2013 if they want, bypassing the lottery?

Yes people could have decided for themselves not to go but maybe others thought they would be helping NYC like the mayor and Wittenberg said.

Why not have the elite race take place in another marathon in northeast? With the same prize money. That is the most important part of the event. Not everyone will agree with that statement but that is the sad state the marathon is in

Both should resign.
 
An option for marathon runners already in NYC

Here's an option for any runners who still want to run in NYC.

Event Details: Informal Marathon to benefit NY Cares
Date: Sunday, November 4
Time: 8:00 a.m., EST
Location: Runners will meet at Columbus Circle & Central Park Drive, and the run will
continue 5x around Central Park.
 
am1 said:
Even after the mayor and head of the NYCM repeatedly said the event would go forward?... Both should...
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Ummm, how about this: People have died, there are people desperate for food and shelter, and people have lost all their worldly possessions. The race may be more significant for those affected, but only the self-absorbed cannot see that objectively, the lack of clarity over the race pales in comparison.
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I see all sides of this, as someone who has registered for races and someone who has done cleanup after a natural disaster. The race should have been cancelled as soon as they saw how bad the storm was hitting New York. I would have cancelled on my own, if I was a good enough runner to qualify. But doing the NYC marathon is not a hasty decision. Some people train for years to qualify and get there. So if someone says it is all good they go with that decision because they worked so hard to get there. To have it change only after people arrived and began spending money was a bad decision on many levels. I only hope that those who did arrive use the trip for good and pitch in and help with cleanup.
 
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Ummm, how about this: People have died, there are people desperate for food and shelter, and people have lost all their worldly possessions. The race may be more significant for those affected, but only the self-absorbed cannot see that objectively, the lack of clarity over the race pales in comparison.
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Nothing changed after Sandy hit to when it was cancelled. The problems you talk about were not going to go in a few days.

I think NYC and NYCM should be held liable for their poor judgement.
 
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