"New" Wyndham Inventory?

[Floridaman76]

In what way are current owners funding separate systems?

Where do you think the proceeds (or savings produced) of the properties which left the system are going?

 

[chapjim]

Where do you think the proceeds (or savings produced) of the properties which left the system are going?

How are you and I paying for that?

Wyndham will receive an influx of cash from the sale but that cash didn't come from either you or me. Wyndham will get a pro rata share of the residuals, same as I will. Wyndham's pro rata share is a lot bigger than mine for sure but none of it is my money or yours.

 

[CO skier]

Again, like I have said many times, Club Wyndham owners are getting the absolute shaft without lube.

This fails, again, to:

1) Acknowledge all those owners at the affected resorts who are DELIGHTED to be free from their maintenance fees January 1, 2026 at no cost to them, and little effort on their part and no cost when it comes time to sign over their deed(s).

2) The fact that many owners at these resorts, owned simply to trade in RCI. They can still do this if they accept the CWA swap.

3) There was so little interest value and interest in these resorts on the part of Club Wyndham owners that Wyndham had acquired more than 50% ownership from the HOAs (saving the resort from some bad debt) and through Certified Exit, giving owners a no-cost, easy-out from maintenance fee obligations.

Give it a rest.

Posted on July 18, 2025

There will be a bell curve of satisfaction with how this plays out. At one end of the curve are owners who would be satisfied only if Wyndham did nothing and "everything remains the same." They have no chance at a happy outcome because something is clearly going to change.

Solidly in the middle are owners who accept the swap and continue on in Club Wyndham with maintenance fees that are somewhat higher or lower than before the swap.

At the other end of the curve will be owners who do nothing, maybe because they have not used their ownership in years and have no idea what is going on, they just receive a check from the proceeds of the sale at some point in the future for something that was just costing them money, and they cannot believe their good fortune and as a bonus there are no more monthly maintenance fees.

Wyndham is closing a handful of legacy resorts - dedicated chart/tracker located in the first post for this unfolding set of events

Do UDI properties work the same. Do you just hold a certificate of beneficial interest and the actual deeds, or entire underlying deed to the property is held within the Fairshare Vacation Plan Trust? Or do you own a deed at a UDI property? No. I own all UDI and I haves deeds to the property...

tugbbs.com

 

[Floridaman76]

This fails, again, to:

1) Acknowledge all those owners at the affected resorts who are DELIGHTED to be free from their maintenance fees January 1, 2026 at no cost to them, and little effort on their part and no cost when it comes time to sign over their deed(s).

I'm sure there were some.

2) The fact that many owners at these resorts, owned simply to trade in RCI. They can still do this if they accept the CWA swap.

Only an option for fixed week owners, which at this point were likely a small minority of owners at these sites. But regardless, exchanging your fixed week was always an advertised feature. And deeded points owners there was never any expectation that they would have to stay at their home resort. That's the entire POINT of a points system....

3) There was so little interest value and interest in these resorts on the part of Club Wyndham owners that Wyndham had acquired more than 50% ownership from the HOAs (saving the resort from some bad debt) and through Certified Exit, giving owners a no-cost, easy-out from maintenance fee obligations

That;s speculatiion. Pure speculation,. There was strong sesonal use of most of these resorts. Did they have strong year round use? No. But also few do. Especially considering that, playing devils advocate. Wyndham likely acquired a controlling interest in these resorts through deedback SOLELY to controil this liquidation process without any chance of resistance. It was a well executed "long game" and probably makes business sense for them

Give it a rest.

It's weird how you, and some of your associates are such strong advocates for fewer travel options for owners... we lost 12-15 locations we can travel to. With, to date, NOTHING replacing them.

Not seeing the positive there, still...

 

[chapjim]

It's weird how you, and some of your associates are such strong advocates for fewer travel options for owners... we lost 12-15 locations we can travel to. With, to date, NOTHING replacing them.

Not seeing the positive there, still...

This is a totally different complaint than your Posts #24 and #26.

So far as I can recall, no one is advocating for fewer travel options and obviously, that has not been Wyndham's intention.

I'd still like to hear how I'm funding new resorts.

 

[CO skier]

This fails, again, to:

2) [Acknowledge] The fact that many owners at these resorts, owned simply to trade in RCI. They can still do this if they accept the CWA swap.

Only an option for fixed week owners, which at this point were likely a small minority of owners at these sites.

Wrong, again.

1) A number of the closed resorts were 100% sold as fixed weeks. 100% of the remaining owners at these resorts were, obviously, fixed week owners. (Converted fixed week owners were still "fixed week owners.")

2) UDI owners and converted fixed week owners may deposit their points into RCI.

So, 100% of the remaining owners at the closed resorts had the option to trade in RCI.

 

[Double U]

2) The fact that many owners at these resorts, owned simply to trade in RCI. They can still do this if they accept the CWA swap.

I gotta interrupt. I don't agree, and actually think this could mislead good owners into a really horrible decision. Let me explain.

Take Shawnee as an example.

A fixed week will convert to the corresponding points you find under "Full Week". Everything is 2 bedrooms.

Next is the RCI exchange chart:

Compare. Nothing is equal, is it? The best any of them will achieve from the swap, apples to apples, is a studio. That sucks! Especially when you consider that a 2BR ridge top VALUE unit (we aren't even talking prime) exchanged into RCI would yield a TPU of 20. Enough to get an RCI exchange into a July week 2 bedroom at Bonnet Creek, and still leave enough for another 2BR exchange at Massanutten or similar. So, how can giving that up for at best a studio in value season make any sense? They're being screwed and lied to about being able to use RCI like they used to. And they are a vulnerable population as they have zero knowledge about CWA or points in general.

I'm sure this is getting long, but wait, because it gets even better!!

Here is yet another Shawnee points chart:

Look at some of the exchange rates. Some of the owners won't even get enough points to book a 63K studio unit in RCI. Just wait until someone deposits their 56K points into RCI, expecting the ability to exchange as the were told, only to find out not only can't they exchange, the points are now stuck in RCI. It will be a total loss to them. Will they think they were once again bamboozled?

Fixed weeks are the bomb if you travel that way, IMO. Perhaps it can help some understand that it is possible and takes little effort to get more value out of them than VIP benefits, at least to an extent. And they sell for free!

Just my thoughts on it, do you still feel the same?

Edit: I could be wrong on the RCI points chart, but I used what the website had on it. I'm going to put where I think I'm wrong in a new post. And FYI, don't take that post serious, just another screw up by TnL

 

[paxsarah]

I gotta interrupt. I don't agree, and actually think this could mislead good owners into a really horrible decision. Let me explain.

Take Shawnee as an example.View attachment 122795 A fixed week will convert to the corresponding points you find under "Full Week". Everything is 2 bedrooms.

Next is the RCI exchange chart:View attachment 122797
Compare. Nothing is equal, is it? The best any of them will achieve from the swap, apples to apples, is a studio. That sucks! Especially when you consider that a 2BR ridge top VALUE unit (we aren't even talking prime) exchanged into RCI would yield a TPU of 20. Enough to get an RCI exchange into a July week 2 bedroom at Bonnet Creek, and still leave enough for another 2BR exchange at Massanutten or similar. So, how can giving that up for at best a studio in value season make any sense? They're being screwed and lied to about being able to use RCI like they used to. And they are a vulnerable population as they have zero knowledge about CWA or points in general.

I'm sure this is getting long, but wait, because it gets even better!!

Here is yet another Shawnee points chart:
View attachment 122800
Look at some of the exchange rates. Some of the owners won't even get enough points to book a 63K studio unit in RCI. Just wait until someone deposits their 56K points into RCI, expecting the ability to exchange as the were told, only to find out not only can't they exchange, the points are now stuck in RCI. It will be a total loss to them. Will they think they were once again bamboozled?

Fixed weeks are the bomb if you travel that way, IMO. Perhaps it can help some understand that it is possible and takes little effort to get more value out of them than VIP benefits, at least to an extent. And they sell for free!

Just my thoughts on it, do you still feel the same?

Your RCI points chart is incorrect. This is the correct one:

 

[Double U]

Your RCI points chart is incorrect. This is the correct one:
View attachment 122807

LOL, ditto!

 

[Double U]

I gotta interrupt. I don't agree, and actually think this could mislead good owners into a really horrible decision. Let me explain.

Take Shawnee as an example.View attachment 122795 A fixed week will convert to the corresponding points you find under "Full Week". Everything is 2 bedrooms.

Next is the RCI exchange chart:View attachment 122797
Compare. Nothing is equal, is it? The best any of them will achieve from the swap, apples to apples, is a studio. That sucks! Especially when you consider that a 2BR ridge top VALUE unit (we aren't even talking prime) exchanged into RCI would yield a TPU of 20. Enough to get an RCI exchange into a July week 2 bedroom at Bonnet Creek, and still leave enough for another 2BR exchange at Massanutten or similar. So, how can giving that up for at best a studio in value season make any sense? They're being screwed and lied to about being able to use RCI like they used to. And they are a vulnerable population as they have zero knowledge about CWA or points in general.

I'm sure this is getting long, but wait, because it gets even better!!

Here is yet another Shawnee points chart:
View attachment 122800
Look at some of the exchange rates. Some of the owners won't even get enough points to book a 63K studio unit in RCI. Just wait until someone deposits their 56K points into RCI, expecting the ability to exchange as the were told, only to find out not only can't they exchange, the points are now stuck in RCI. It will be a total loss to them. Will they think they were once again bamboozled?

Fixed weeks are the bomb if you travel that way, IMO. Perhaps it can help some understand that it is possible and takes little effort to get more value out of them than VIP benefits, at least to an extent. And they sell for free!

Just my thoughts on it, do you still feel the same?

Edit: I could be wrong on the RCI points chart, but I used what the website had on it. I'm going to put where I think I'm wrong in a new post. And FYI, don't take that post serious, just another screw up by TnL

I truly apologize for doing exactly the same thing I was concerned was being done to others. So embarrassing! No malice intended, but it appears I was using incorrect information from the Wyndham portal. I trusted it.

I am really sorry. Does anyone know why the are giving different point values? I don't see why someone should have to differentiate retail vs resale just to get a points chart that is the same for everyone?

Regardless, don't rely on my previous post. I am wrong!