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My thoughts now that I've looked at it, and changes I noticed:
- I had hoped they might revise the vacation planning calendar to alleviate the confusion regarding the Friday, Saturday, Sunday columns. It doesn't look like they've changed or added any explanation that you're most likely going to be looking at Friday no matter what day you're checking in.
- One interesting thing removed from old Page 317, new Page 297, is the box stating that "All Club Wyndham Members have access to book at Margaritaville resorts 5 months prior to check-in."
- A few different clarifications were added to Reservation Modifications, but this one stood out: "Nights cannot be removed within 14 days of arrival. Nights can still be added up to 2 days prior to arrival." They also added one that doesn't seem necessary: "Housekeeping credits will not be returned when removing nights." Why would they be? Maybe confused people complained too much or something, but I don't even understand why that would be a question.
- They added the very important fact that you can use the Points Deposit Feature during the first 3 months of your use year! (Did you know that the timeframe was not included in the 2023-24 directory?
- They vagued up some of the descriptive language under PlusPartners.
- They moved Club Pass guidelines out of the Exchange section and under a new header called Other Resort Options that includes Club Pass, Affiliate, and Associate categories.
- They removed the suffix "by Wyndham" from Presidential Reserve and Margaritaville Vacation Club. (When I first noticed it with MVC I thought maybe it was a sign of something, but then once I realized that the same had happened with PR I think it was just simplification.)
ya, that's pretty vague. I'm really confused now. more clear or less clear?
The old PlusPartners language mentioned some specific car rental companies, for instance, but the new language takes out any specific travel brands and essentially says call us to explore options.
Do we think this means resale owners are losing access to Margaritaville?My thoughts now that I've looked at it, and changes I noticed:
- I had hoped they might revise the vacation planning calendar to alleviate the confusion regarding the Friday, Saturday, Sunday columns. It doesn't look like they've changed or added any explanation that you're most likely going to be looking at Friday no matter what day you're checking in.
- One interesting thing removed from old Page 317, new Page 297, is the box stating that "All Club Wyndham Members have access to book at Margaritaville resorts 5 months prior to check-in."
- A few different clarifications were added to Reservation Modifications, but this one stood out: "Nights cannot be removed within 14 days of arrival. Nights can still be added up to 2 days prior to arrival." They also added one that doesn't seem necessary: "Housekeeping credits will not be returned when removing nights." Why would they be? Maybe confused people complained too much or something, but I don't even understand why that would be a question.
- They added the very important fact that you can use the Points Deposit Feature during the first 3 months of your use year! (Did you know that the timeframe was not included in the 2023-24 directory?
- They vagued up some of the descriptive language under PlusPartners.
- They moved Club Pass guidelines out of the Exchange section and under a new header called Other Resort Options that includes Club Pass, Affiliate, and Associate categories.
- They removed the suffix "by Wyndham" from Presidential Reserve and Margaritaville Vacation Club. (When I first noticed it with MVC I thought maybe it was a sign of something, but then once I realized that the same had happened with PR I think it was just simplification.)
Totally agree. But what I don't see mentioned is that if you borrow points when you make the original reservation, you cannot drop nights - regardless of if you are within the cancellation window. My beef is you cannot drop nights from a reservation if you borrowed points - regardless of being outside 15 days of checkin. I don't see it documented - even now in the new directory, at the time I ran into an isssue dropping nights wasn't documented at all - I was fortunate to run into a well educated VC (as I do think she is correct in that it was the borrowed points hanging me up). It would not surprise me at all if the same applies to rented points but I have not tried that.
These are one of the driving issues for me and why I'm making all these video reviews - I think a lot of places don't want to do it because it's going to not be the best beauty shots available, and it's going to hurt marketing. Look at my Nashville video review and it's really not inspiring to ever stay there.
Your critique makes even more sense when we realize that the member's directory is for owners, not for prospective customers. As owners, we don't need to see fancy pictures for areas around the resorts, we don't need to see nice views, we need information about the resorts. Know your audience right? They are getting the audience wrong when it comes to the intent of the member's directory. I plan to address this with Annie Roberts soon, as I really think they need to rethink their entire approach for the member's directory with this in mind.
They say this all of the time at the sales updates - it's a FOMO based sales approach. It's not true - and likely never will be as Wyndham cannot maintain high enough occupancy rates without allowing non-MVC owners to book into these resorts, and/or resale only owners.
So just to be clear, if I move points into a future use year, then make a ERP reservation and use some of those future use year points to complete a reservation in my current use year, I cannot drop nights from said reservation?
Probably
My situation was I booked a reservation less than 60 days from checkin, I borrowed some of the points needed from 2026. The VC said since I borrowed points I couldn't drop days. She said I could add (if there was availability) but we can't drop. Certainly an edge case. I can only guess they can't figure out where to put back the points?
CLUB WYNDHAM MEMBER'S DIRECTORY 2025/2026
media.travelandleisure.com
I haven’t even had a chance to look at it, but here it is. Now I have to remember the steps/tools I used to convert to PDF. I’ll post it when I figure it out.
I'm not 100% sure if this is the way it works for Shell properties, but if it's similar to, say, the ARP split between deeded and Access inventory, it may the case that while all the Shell resorts are open to Club Wyndham owners, that doesn't necessarily mean that all of the inventory at all of the Shell resorts are open to Club Wyndham owners. My guess would be (and it is just a guess) that all of the Shell inventory that's been converted to Club Wyndham points is available to Club Wyndham owners, but that Shell inventory that hasn't been converted to Club Wyndham points may still be limited to original Shell ownerships.
Thank you!
It was at Bonnet Creek that I was told this as well. The woman who told me was supposedly an assistant to the sales manager. (I was meeting with her as a follow up to a complaint I'd made about an owner update at Daytona a month prior to my Bonnet Creek visit.) The woman "assured" me that it worked and encouraged me to try it. At that point I had a trip booked out west with 3 consecutive timeshare stays. She advised not to try it with those stays to make sure I didn't mess up the consecutive stays but definitely encouraged me to try it for single timeshare stays AFTER those 3 consecutive ones.
