New [DC] Ownership Levels Are Live [Owner Discount Info]

[larue]

Reservation codes for new owner status?

Does anyone have the new reservation codes for use at MVC resorts for enrolled members in the destinations club program? The Y83 code I have always used as a premiere member appears to be dead. I am now Executive level.

Thanks

 

[SueDonJ]

Does anyone have the new reservation codes for use at MVC resorts for enrolled members in the destinations club program? The Y83 code I have always used as a premiere member appears to be dead. I am now Executive level.

Thanks

I don't think any TUGgers have figured them out yet, or at least nobody's posted them. If you call Owner Services they should be able to help you.

[Note threads being merged; see Post #19 in this thread.]

 

[larue]

I don't think any TUGgers have figured them out yet, or at least nobody's posted them. If you call Owner Services they should be able to help you.

[Note threads being merged.]

I called owner services and they did not know anything as of two days ago. I did call Marriott tonight and spoke to a supervisor who confirmed that the Y83, Y85, etc., were all dead codes and that the new coding system was showing up in her system but with a 4 digit code (for executive) of XMWA, which is 30% off of rack rate. She also advised that she did not see any other code for an additional discount by using the Marriott Visa. She also saw codes for President and Chairman. Unfortunately she did not have a 3 digit code that corresponded to her 4 digit code. She was, however, able to book my reservation and my confirmation says "MVC Executive Level, see Rate Rules". The rate rules, in turn, say:

Additional Information
MVC Executive Level Discount
- For MVC Executive Level Owners ONLY
- 30 percent off Leisure
- Owner must be present at check-in
- Limit of 2 villas per owner per night

 

[larue]

Update:

There is no longer an additional discount for using your Marriott Visa. Here are the 3 digit codes, per Marriott this morning:

Chairman’s Club and Presidential: 2vc
Executive: 6vc
Regular Owner 7vc

None of the old rates work anymore (e.g. y83, y85, mod, etc.)

 

[SueDonJ]

Update:

There is no longer an additional discount for using your Marriott Visa. ...

Interesting. That's not my understanding based on this.

I also can't pull up any MOD rates, not even for stays which did come up when I checked last week. But it makes NO SENSE for that code to be gone because it's the longtime code that Weeks Owners have been using forever.

 

[larue]

Interesting. That's not my understanding based on this.

I pressed pretty hard for a different code that would incorporate the additional discount by using the Marriott Visa and the agent was firm that there is no longer any such code and that Visa had ended the promotion.

Maybe it is not part of any code, but just an extra discount? If that is the case, the "cannot be combined with any other discount" language will prevent its use in conjunction with one of the new discount codes.

 

[SueDonJ]

I pressed pretty hard for a different code that would incorporate the additional discount by using the Marriott Visa and the agent was firm that there is no longer any such code and that Visa had ended the promotion.

Maybe it is not part of any code, but just an extra discount? If that is the case, the "cannot be combined with any other discount" language will prevent its use in conjunction with one of the new discount codes.

That's what we questioned when the new Benefits At A Glance chart was released but as you see in that link, I looked into it and was told that the additional 10% VISA component would still be available.

Grrrrrrr, it's so frustrating that they're not prepared for all the ramifications when they make major changes.

 

[SueDonJ]

Larue, thanks for sharing the codes you were able to learn. I edited the FAQ to include 2VC, 6VC and 7VC.

I played around with XVC and found that 1VC, 4VC and 9VC return a message, "Invalid Corporate or Promotional Code." But 3VC, 5VC and 8VC return, "The special rate you selected is not available for the dates you requested." Maybe that means the VISA fields are entered but the codes aren't live yet?

 

[puckmanfl]

good morning....

10% for Visa is gone....

35% for Chairman etc...

 

[larue]

Larue, thanks for sharing the codes you were able to learn. I edited the FAQ to include 2VC, 6VC and 7VC.

I played around with XVC and found that 1VC, 4VC and 9VC return a message, "Invalid Corporate or Promotional Code." But 3VC, 5VC and 8VC return, "The special rate you selected is not available for the dates you requested." Maybe that means the VISA fields are entered but the codes aren't live yet?

Very smart! I was wondering about those gaps between 2vc and 6vc and that would definitely account for an additional code for use of the visa.

Thanks!

 

[sea&ski]

Interesting. That's not my understanding based on this.

I also can't pull up any MOD rates, not even for stays which did come up when I checked last week. But it makes NO SENSE for that code to be gone because it's the longtime code that Weeks Owners have been using forever.

This is exactly what we found on Monday when we looked. Sunday they were there, Monday they were gone. It is so very strange that they would not have redirected the inquiries to the new codes, or at least announced this when a person logs in to their account. I still say that they were giving away too many rooms for 'rentals' to other MVC owners and now the rooms might go back in to the DC-available rotation. We certainly took full advantage of the MOD rate, and there were available rooms in ski destinations for late 2015, early 2016 when I bet they could be used in the DC program instead.

 

[SueDonJ]

This is exactly what we found on Monday when we looked. Sunday they were there, Monday they were gone. It is so very strange that they would not have redirected the inquiries to the new codes, or at least announced this when a person logs in to their account. I still say that they were giving away too many rooms for 'rentals' to other MVC owners and now the rooms might go back in to the DC-available rotation. We certainly took full advantage of the MOD rate, and there were available rooms in ski destinations for late 2015, early 2016 when I bet they could be used in the DC program instead.

I'm more inclined to think that it's a problem with IT coding rather than them taking away any of the discount codes. Maybe that's too optimistic but it's what I'm going with until we know for sure.

The new codes that larue shared are working, the ones not related to the VISA component. It doesn't make sense that they'd take away the only discount code that Weeks Owners had ever had but keep the DC Members' in tact. Maybe because "MOD" was also the code for the lower-tier DC Members prior to the 4/30/15 changes, they now have to do some offline correcting to limit it to un-enrolled Weeks Owners?

 

[dioxide45]

good morning....

10% for Visa is gone....

35% for Chairman etc...

I would agree. There would be no need to change the codes unless it was to remove the additional Visa discount. The MOD code worked in two ways, it would offer the regular 25% and if the Visa discount was available, it would show those 35% off rates too. It worked different from the other newer codes for Premier and Premier Plus. Those had two different codes for the regular discount and the Visa discount.

Unless there are three other codes for the Visa discount that we have not been made privy to, the Visa discount is dead.

It does seem that the 7VC code is for regular DC and weeks owners. So the 25% discount still applies for unenrolled weeks owners. The rate rules show "For MVC Select and Owner Level Owners ONLY". I would expect that to apply if you are a regular DC owner or an unenrolled weeks owner. 7VC basically replaced MOD, but has no Visa functionality.

If they were going to keep the Visa discount, there was no reason to add new codes. They could have used the current ones it the method I outlined in this post.

 

[bazzap]

Perhaps it is just me or there are still some oddities in the system, but I just checked again for Thailand for October 2015 and it is still showing the MOD Visa rate as available
"MVCI VISA Owner Discount, wired high-speed Internet, wireless Internet, 35 percent off Leisure Rate, MVC Owner ID required, limited to 2 rooms per card member, must pay with Marriott Visa, self parking"
(Interestingly though it shows no availability for the new 2vc rate, but it does have the Advance Purchase non refundable rate at exactly the same cost as the MOD Visa rate)

 

[SeaDoc]

I have the answer for you... There is no longer an extra 10% when you use your Marriott Visa. However here are the codes:

Presidential/Chairman's Club 35% - 2VC
Executive 30% - 6VC
Owner/Select 25% - 7VC

SeaDoc

We were premier owners under the old system and were looking forward to the ability to make reservations for less than a week at 13 months out. I tested the system today and was able to do that. :whoopie:

On the downside, I checked the marriott.com website and found that the MOD and Y83 discounts are not available. I tried a couple of locations (Williamsburg and Orlando) and few different dates and got the message that the discounted rates were not available. I wonder if they will no longer allow the owner discount or if they plan to modify the discount codes based on the ownership level. Let's hope it's the second option.

 

[dioxide45]

While we didn't use the extra 10% discount, or book cash rooms much, this is a pretty big devaluation of the program if they have removed the additional 10% Visa discount. I don't expect that this 10% was really paid for by Visa or Chase and was just less revenue for MVCI/MI.

I think the one reason that we might still be seeing MOD in Asia is because Asia is not yet part of the DC program yet? That could explain why Barry is still seeing those codes/rates when doing mock bookings.

 

[puckmanfl]

good evening...

a major devaluation...

Here's what the new Tiers got me...

on the plus side...

2 year banking...and a later election deadline/...

on the minus side... more competiton fo rthose 13 month less than seven ressies..

loss of 10% discount went from 45% to 35%

 

[jeepie]

good evening...

a major devaluation...

Here's what the new Tiers got me...

on the plus side...

2 year banking...and a later election deadline/...

on the minus side... more competiton fo rthose 13 month less than seven ressies..

loss of 10% discount went from 45% to 35%

Yup...

+1

 

[bazzap]

While we didn't use the extra 10% discount, or book cash rooms much, this is a pretty big devaluation of the program if they have removed the additional 10% Visa discount. I don't expect that this 10% was really paid for by Visa or Chase and was just less revenue for MVCI/MI.

I think the one reason that we might still be seeing MOD in Asia is because Asia is not yet part of the DC program yet? That could explain why Barry is still seeing those codes/rates when doing mock bookings.

Yes, you may well be right about Asia.
Certainly Europe is showing just the new level codes, although with only a quick check I could only find Presidential/Chairman's Club 35% - 2VC for the MVC resorts not any of the hotels

 

[SeaDoc]

Agreed, the only tier that got the competitive 'shaft' was Chairman's Club. However, there will be more for that tier level in the coming months. Any changes have to be approved by every state so there is a time element involved and they wanted to get these changes out prior to completing some of the benefits for C.C. This info from a reliable source... The 'Automatic Elevation' from Premier Plus (13000+) to CC (15000+) was a nice gesture, by the way...

good evening...

a major devaluation...

Here's what the new Tiers got me...

on the plus side...

2 year banking...and a later election deadline/...

on the minus side... more competiton fo rthose 13 month less than seven ressies..

loss of 10% discount went from 45% to 35%

 

[ilene13]

I'm happy with the 2VC code, although I'd love it to work at the hotels. We do not have a Marriott cc so we never got the extra 10% and most of the codes never seemed to work. I tried the new one on the website and it worked!

 

[puckmanfl]

good morning...
Sea Doc...

The only worthwhile benefit of PP is the 13 months less than 7 nights... Banking and delayed election are really minor... so although I was grandfathered, the benefits remain essentially the same, with more competition...

The loss of the 10% is HUGE with the VISA...

I await the NEW benefits..for Chairman's but I remain skeptical that it will be of significance.

The ones that really got hosed were those 12K point owners, that topped off to be PP. The subtle hint was that the 13k number to getthe 13 month less than 7 was going up, not down!!! If I was one that "topped" off..would be really hot!!!

At the end of the day..with loss of 10% and competitive advantage I am worse off now, than 6 months ago!!!

 

[bazzap]

The loss of the 10% with MR Credit Card is a big disappointment for me.
The new benefit of Banking and delayed election though is for me a well worthwhile addition, albeit I couldn't easily put a financial value on this to compare against the 10%.

 

[GregT]

good morning...
Sea Doc...

The only worthwhile benefit of PP is the 13 months less than 7 nights... Banking and delayed election are really minor... so although I was grandfathered, the benefits remain essentially the same, with more competition...

The loss of the 10% is HUGE with the VISA...

I await the NEW benefits..for Chairman's but I remain skeptical that it will be of significance.

The ones that really got hosed were those 12K point owners, that topped off to be PP. The subtle hint was that the 13k number to getthe 13 month less than 7 was going up, not down!!! If I was one that "topped" off..would be really hot!!!

At the end of the day..with loss of 10% and competitive advantage I am worse off now, than 6 months ago!!!

Puck,

I'm more positive on the change, or maybe it's more accurate to say this I think it's a non-event for us. I actually like the 2 year banking alot more than I expected to, because it makes me more comfortable borrowing next year's points. Before, I was reluctant to borrow because of the permanent election. Now, even if I have to cancel, I can put those points into whatever reservation remains (I always have something), and restore my elected points -- which can now be banked for 2 years -- the previous life span of the borrow points.

So, the two year banking is a nice benefit. I don't love the increased competition from Executive Level, but if the inventory is robust enough 12-13 months out, then the real losers are people below 7,000 Points who have even less chance of getting their target reservation.

We will see -- I do hope that more features are forthcoming for Chairman's Club that would convert this into a truly desirable level. Right now, it's harder to justify buying more points to get CC and therefore a bigger carrot would help.

Best,

Greg

 

[puckmanfl]

good morning...

I am more nuetral....but the loss of the VISA 10% is a tough nut , I use that a ton!!!!

more worried about my Bolts!!!! Another match up of 2 even teams!!! The 3-0 lead was a mirage!!!! Bolts got teh "puck luck" early..now it's going other way!!!

But can never complain when you have a chance to close out at home...but that didn't work out well for Red Wings!!!