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Need a new tablet - Suggestions?
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Our adult daughter joined Amazon Prime and was given guest membership(s), so we got one! LOVE IT! Free shipping in 2 days.
Yup. One Prime membership allows up to 4 family members to join up as well. DW piggybacks on mine.
That piggy back is only for shipping, not free book rental and videos afaik
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Jim,
Is the PrinterShare App available on the Kindle Fire HD? If so, you probably need the premium version (I think around $13 to download) to be able to wirelessly print.
I'm not sure if that's an option for you though.
Richard
I'll check, but at home my laptop prints wirelessly. It just is not missed. The only thing I can envision printing when traveling is the occasional boarding pass, and they can be scanned off the screen of a smart phone or tablet.
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I have an iPad, iPad Mini and the New Nexus 7. I've been using the New Nexus 7 almost exclusively for the past 2 weeks to learn all the ins and out of Android. Android is OK and there are some features of it that I really like. However, I still think iOS is better and provides a better tablet experience. The transitions between programs is a lot smoother on iOS. The scrolling functionality is much better on iOS - I've seen people on the internet describe the scrolling of Android as "sticky" and I think that's a pretty good word to describe it. I greatly prefer the e-mail programs on iOS. I also find the video playback to be better on iOS. I've now watched 3 movies and several TV shows on the Nexus 7 and when there's some fast action the image actually shows pixilation. It's a very sharp screen, but I actually find the video playback on my iOS devices to be better.
I don't dislike Android and if it was the only thing around I would love it, but I do find the tablet experience with iOS to be better. I'll soon be "giving" my new Nexus 7 to my kids to let them tear it up and I'll be going back to the iPad.
WRT screen transition smoothness, slower transitions appear "smoother". The faster the transition, the more abrupt it appears. The "smooth" setting on the GO launcher is actually the slowest transition setting. I'll take speed over "smoothness", but it's really a non-issue either way. It's always just going to be a preference thing.
Any video issues are likely the result of being able to see more compression artifacts on a higher res screen.
I think iPad's are decent devices for the occasional user. For those who really use their devices and want to get the most from a tablet, there's really no comparison; Android owns iOS in functionality and thus, ease of use. And I'm not talking about any geeky stuff. No rooting or sideloading or any of that. Just customizing what comes out of the box by downloading a few apps and tweaking some settings. Maybe half an hour of getting things the way one wants them, much in the same vein as populating a home screen with ones favorite app icons -- presumably something nearly everyone does when they get a new tablet.
In that regard, the "experience" of paying significantly more for something that's ultimately more difficult to use isn't for me.
Any video issues are likely the result of being able to see more compression artifacts on a higher res screen.
I think iPad's are decent devices for the occasional user. For those who really use their devices and want to get the most from a tablet, there's really no comparison; Android owns iOS in functionality and thus, ease of use. And I'm not talking about any geeky stuff. No rooting or sideloading or any of that. Just customizing what comes out of the box by downloading a few apps and tweaking some settings. Maybe half an hour of getting things the way one wants them, much in the same vein as populating a home screen with ones favorite app icons -- presumably something nearly everyone does when they get a new tablet.
In that regard, the "experience" of paying significantly more for something that's ultimately more difficult to use isn't for me.
....... or for me.......
Big Lots - where I have brought 2 or 3 tablets - all for under $80 (take 3 device when I travel with a nephew - learning curve or options or if 1 breaks).
Netbooks for under $100.
Have left the laptop on my desk at home - too heavy - for the past 20 months. I get spoiled real quick.
Netbooks for under $100.
Have left the laptop on my desk at home - too heavy - for the past 20 months. I get spoiled real quick.
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LOL! :rofl::hysterical:
Passepartout asked somebody to explain the difference in "tablet experience" between iOS and Android. So, I rendered my opinion as to why the tablet experience is better with iOS. I'm then told my eyes and opinion are really faulty because in actuality the "stickiness" of Androids scrolling or the pixilation of video playback are actually signs that the functionality is "better" because the hardware "specs" and "speed" of that hardware is better. BTW, the scrolling on iOS responds flawlessly no matter how "fast" I move my finger. The same can't be said for the "faster" Android.
If the "functionality" of Android is so much better then iOS, then why does iOS continue to dominate web usage despite Android dominating market share??? Mobile web usage for iOS is at roughly 60% while Android is roughly at 30%.
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2013/05/01/apple-ios-android-netapplications/
It makes sense that Android is dominating market share since it's cheaper (free is cheaper) then iOS and there are a whole lot more hardware options for Android. I freely admit that I wish there were more hardware options for iOS, and I like many of the hardware designs that are out there better then the iPad or iPhone.
So then, why do people actually use their iOS devices much more then Android for which there are many more Android devices then iOS??? I think the answer is easily deduced and fairly apparent. The "functionality" or "ease of use" or whatever you want to term it is clearly better with iOS.
When I'm sitting on the fence trying to decide whether to go with the cheaper and IMO better styled hardware design options with Android devices vs. the more expensive iOS devices with the better IMO operating system, I still choose iOS because frankly its an awesome operating system that works pretty flawlessly.
Personally, I lean towards the Android in the debate, but have respect for both sides. I think Android will win in the end, only because of current trends and there are a lot more software developers heading in that direction. Apple will continue to win for being "easy to use". If your story is accurate, it appears we will be debating this topic for many years.
I appreciate the link, it was interesting to see those stats.
I gunned your web usage argument to pieces the last time you brought it up. You should really learn something about that field before you cite mostly meaningless data.
I wasn't talking about how fast you move your finger, I was referring to how fast the screen transitions from one image to another (scrolling). Do yourself a favor and change the screen transition speed on a device. The slower the speed, the "smoother" it appears to the eye (to a point). As I said, I couldn't care less whether transitions are fast or smooth (we're talking milliseconds either way), but Android lets me pick to suit my preference. You prefer smooth, I prefer fast. Does that make smooth a better experience?
Furthermore, I wasn't denying what you saw on your Nexus screen, I was simply giving a reasonable explanation. Maybe something is defective on your Nexus? All manufacturers make bad product, even your beloved Apple. I work in the electronics field (semiconductors), and no amount of pre-market testing and validation will catch everything. Because of this, I never buy any electronics when they first come out. I will wait 3 to 6 months at a minimum to get the front end of the bathtub curve out of the picture.
Lastly, why don't you just own up to the fact that you're not interested in getting the most out of your hardware? I don't have any problem with that, there are loads of people that fall into that category. Enough that Apple is highly successful with a more limited OS. Unfortunately, you're such an iOS fan that you'd rather spend your time disparaging the competition and Googling for useless web usage facts than learning anything about what you bought. Your loss.
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LOL! #Fail :rofl::hysterical:
Your attempts at rationalization do not make your arguments correct.
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Yup, I'm not interested in getting the most out of my hardware. I'm more interested in getting the most out of my SOFTWARE which is why IMO iOS is clearly better.
BTW, I actually use both platforms and I bet I've used Android a lot more then you've used iOS. I think you're the one that is such an Android fan that you overly disparage iOS and anything that iOS does better then Android you come up with some lame rationalization to explain as to why its really Android that does those elements better.
No point in getting the undies all in a wad over the usual iOS vs. MS vs. Android. Again. Surprised no one ran up the Chromebook flag. For the hundredth time. The OP fixed her Blackberry (post 18) and isn't going to take anybody's advice, no matter how sage.
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I think Android will "win" also which is why I've been making a concerted effort to use it more and more. As it stands right now, I still think iOS is better, but Android's functionality and ease of use is getting better.
Anytime you have something that is cheaper (in Android's case free) and there are many more hardware choices (some of which I think look awesome) means its going to continue to increase its market share. It'll be interesting to see how Apple responds and moves forward.
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FWIW, this is the typical statement I hear more often from my Mac and iOS clients about why they chose Apple solutions. I never hear this from our Windows clients about Windows or Android (and we now have about 80% Windows / 20% Mac client base, but those same clients are also 75% iOS / 25% other (Android, Blackberry, Windows).
I still want to buy an Android and play with it personally for a while, but haven't had the time. I use them occasionally, but don't feel as though I know enough - especially since I use my iPad hours every day. For myself, regardless of tech specs, the iPad has been the single greatest improvement in my ability to enjoy computing, stay in contact and conduct business from anywhere easily, and provide entertainment options. I'm looking forward to seeing what Apple releases with the next version, and while it's interesting to read the comparison articles and comments I suspect whatever the next version has will be sufficiently an improvement to justify the purchase for me. Certainly they would need to really fall down hard to make me permanently switch to Android, given the investment I already have in apps.
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Software is what gets the most out of the hardware
. In other words, if the hardware was equal on two devices, you're going to get more out of it with Android than iOS. Android does more -- that much is pretty irrefutable. You just don't seem that interested in getting the most out of what you bought. I'm not sure why. 
FWIW, I have 2 iPods in my house and just bought my wife a Windows phone. I am hardly enamored with Android. It's just the best current way to get the utility I want out of mobile devices. To be frank, it's pretty easy to exhaust the functionality of stock iOS, and I haven't even come close to doing so on stock Android, even though I've played with Android much more. Having said that, I'll dump Android in a heartbeat when something better comes along.
Lastly, I don't hate iOS or Apple. Apple makes fine stuff. What I do hate is paying more and getting less, which is why I don't tend toward Apple product.
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Software is what gets the most out of the hardware
There is a difference between technical capabilities inherent with a hardware solution and the elegance and simplicity of the software which runs on it. Distilling this to the basics - as you've done - removes the most important aspect of all (at least to me and many millions of people) which is the efficiency and ease of use that is iOS. This is where I am admittedly out of date in terms of Android, but from posts on TUG and many other sources (most importantly, and objectively, the rather silly questions we receive from clients who have Androids as compared to those who have iOS devices) lead me to conclude that iOS is just simpler to learn, support and maintain by oneself. Of course there are exceptions (I am a realist about this, as my many posts have indicated, as well as open minded) but in general iOS has been easier to use, simpler to maintain, more understandable (especially in terms of OS updates) and improves efficiency more so than other devices. This trend may change, and Android may surpass Apple in this regard, but I don't believe it has yet. I would be very pleased to have Android offer as good a user experience as Apple in all respects, but I don't think we're there.
Many have said this same statement for decades about Apple products. I don't think many of Apple's millions of customers would say that felt they paid more than they should have, as compared to the value they receive from the products. You can keep saying this, but it doesn't make any more sense now than it did 20 years ago. Naturally, if you are very comfortable with alternative solutions there is little reason for you to become conversant with Mac or iOS, nor should you since you have a solution which works for you. But in all fairness, people buy products for a variety of reasons and cost is just one of those variables...it is not the end all be all of determining the best solution for a particular task.
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FWIW, here's a good example of what I am talking about WRT Android being ultimately easier to use.
I golf. I use a golf GPS app on my Android phone every time I play. If one thinks about what a golfer would want from their phone when using the app, it might include:
1) Starting the app itself
2) Turning on the phone GPS
3) Turning the screen to full brightness
4) Muting the phone (silent mode)
5) Wi-fi off (to conserve battery, since GPS is battery intensive)
My cheapo Android phone (now sells for $149 unsubsidized) does all of these things with one touch on my home screen. To be fair, #2 only happens because the phone is rooted. Were it not rooted, it would instead take me to the GPS settings screen where I'd have to tap the screen again to turn GPS on.
While some may refer to this as "lame rationalization", to me it's a great example of the utility of a mobile device. And it's a great example of Android allowing me to make my life simpler. To me, this is the very definition of "ease of use". It can't get much easier.
I golf. I use a golf GPS app on my Android phone every time I play. If one thinks about what a golfer would want from their phone when using the app, it might include:
1) Starting the app itself
2) Turning on the phone GPS
3) Turning the screen to full brightness
4) Muting the phone (silent mode)
5) Wi-fi off (to conserve battery, since GPS is battery intensive)
My cheapo Android phone (now sells for $149 unsubsidized) does all of these things with one touch on my home screen. To be fair, #2 only happens because the phone is rooted. Were it not rooted, it would instead take me to the GPS settings screen where I'd have to tap the screen again to turn GPS on.
While some may refer to this as "lame rationalization", to me it's a great example of the utility of a mobile device. And it's a great example of Android allowing me to make my life simpler. To me, this is the very definition of "ease of use". It can't get much easier.
So give me an example where iOS is easier to use than Android. Anything really. Let's assume stock (unrooted/non-jailbroken) devices, where we've at least taken the time to add our favorite icons to our home screens (iOS allows that right?
) . What's easier to do on an iPad than a Nexus 7?
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So give me an example where iOS is easier to use than Android. Anything really. Let's assume stock (unrooted/non-jailbroken) devices, where we've at least taken the time to add our favorite icons to our home screens (iOS allows that right?
What's easier to do on an iPad than a Nexus 7?
Whatever answer I give you will not satisfy you.
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Yeah, I'm not a big fan of Mac OS X (except for the iLife programs) and I prefer Windows 7. Yet I do prefer iOS to anything else out there mobile wise. I have a Macbook Air with Windows 7 on it that I boot to probably 90% of the time.
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