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My Waiohai is dropping like a rock! OUCH!!

icydog said:
I used to be able to see HNL on Continental for super saver FF miles. Not anymore. There's no chance of getting to Hawaii using miles. So we won't go. The tickets are too expensive from the east coast to consider HI.

I guess this will impact my Frenchman's Cove Property as well. Since it costs so much to fly to the Caribbean even from Newark or JFK it may lose value like HI.
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We got FF tx for this November on Continental in the past month. We saw the direct flight with standard for economy and double miles for the first class. We also saw, several months ago, standard miles for first class if you were interested in Delta or NW flights with connections.

So, there are tix, it just depends when you are going and when you log on to look. Seems like they deposit seats periodically if they are not selling so many...
 
I feel a little better now. Maybe last week was just an aberrrition.
The lastest Waiohai 2BR Isalnd View just sold on eBay for over $18,000.

Somebady did, however, get a good deal on this Ko'Olina for under $16K.

Terry :D
 
Steamboat Bill said:
Those are advertised prices that seem to NEVER be available. I flew to Hawaii and had to pay 50,000 just for coach :mad: and I needed 4 tix.

I am also seeing no 25k for coach or 45k for first class to Utah for my yearly ski trip via Delta as they want 50k and 90k respectifully. I may actually pay cash for the first time in a long time. :mad: :mad:
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I just got 6 tickets from Nashville to Honolulu on NW at the 35k miles price. This is for June/July 2009.
 
A friend reports that she was in Honolulu last week, wanted to extend her trip, called United, and had her choice of flights the next day on FF miles. She reports the 767 between Honolulu and SFO was half full.

I think the airlines overplayed their hand following the Aloha and ATA bankruptcies and are getting caught.

I've never been able to figure out why I can usually fly from SFO to Detroit (2100 miles) for $350-$400 when there is no competition (Northwest is the only non-stop carrier), but it costs $700+ to fly from SFO to Kauai (also 2100 miles).
 
Two weeks ago we flew from LAX to Maui on American 10am AM departure flight and each had aisle seats -- my husband was alone in the 2 seat side and I was alone with the center 3 seat group -- it was great -- lots of room.
 
Wow, I don't get this ... we went LAX-KOA June 15, and HNL-LAX June 29, and both were absolutely full (757s), although they did add a few standbys at the end of boarding.

But we had bought these in March at about $600. What was the cost of tix on the "half-full" flight?
 
I agree, I was surprised that the price sold as high as it did, but frankly, an EOY in Hawaii may be a more realistic alternative in the current environment.
 
I contacted this buyer; he's a Tugger and promised to post on the ROFR database when he finds out. My bet's that Marriott will take it.
 
lll1929 said:
I agree that the Caribbean is also going to get hard.

Thank goodness for my FF miles. I was able to get a 3bdrm in Aruba with my 1bdrm Marriott and that was not within Flexchange.

On top of that, Aruba Ocean club has 10 yr refurb going on so we will have additional cost for the next 2 years.

I wonder if lot of people will try to sell their Aruba Ocean Club.

I guess time will tell.
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Was the 3 bedroom also a Marriott exchange? Just wondering if II allowed you to place a request with a 1 bedroom for a 3 bedroom Marriott to Marriott. I have noticed that if I trade outside of Marriott I have no problem pulling more than my Marriott unit size, but Marriott to Marriott does not allow the request to be placed for more than the sleeping size. If you know another way, please share.

Thanks

Beverley
 
Beverley said:
Was the 3 bedroom also a Marriott exchange? Just wondering if II allowed you to place a request with a 1 bedroom for a 3 bedroom Marriott to Marriott. I have noticed that if I trade outside of Marriott I have no problem pulling more than my Marriott unit size, but Marriott to Marriott does not allow the request to be placed for more than the sleeping size. If you know another way, please share.

Thanks

Beverley
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You may be able to "pull" a larger unit with II, but you cannot "request" a larger unit.

Terry
 
Docklander said:
It will be interesting to see if they pass ROFR, even in this climate I doubt they will.
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Just about anything will pass ROFR. With the current financial situation the market is experiencing. Developers are feeling the crunch and now is the time to find very low prices for TS's.:whoopie:
 
why should i buy a WHBC for $14,000 platinum annual use
on ebay in the future?

what will it give me access to thru Interval/marriott that
my
Marriott Shadow ridge/Best week in March, 2009 would not "pull"

my initial negative is MWBC is 2 bedroom dedicated
not a lock off
and costs $5,000 more

thanks 4 advice in advance
 
1965 said:
why should i buy a WHBC for $14,000 platinum annual use
on ebay in the future?

what will it give me access to thru Interval/marriott that
my
Marriott Shadow ridge/Best week in March, 2009 would not "pull"

my initial negative is MWBC is 2 bedroom dedicated
not a lock off
and costs $5,000 more

thanks 4 advice in advance
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In a word, view. Hawaii properties (at least Waiohai, WKORV, and MOC) are sold with view categories. Exchangers get the worst views. At Waiohai and WKORV (and possibly others), that includes parking lot views. That doesn't mean that exchangers cannot get decent views, but it does mean that they are in line behind all owners (including island view owners). I suppose Marriott exchangers are ahead of non-Marriott exchangers and previewers, but traveling 2100 miles to look at a parking lot is a risk I would not take on an annual basis.
 
1965 said:
why should i buy a WHBC for $14,000 platinum annual use on ebay in the future?

what will it give me access to thru Interval/marriott that my Marriott Shadow ridge/Best week in March, 2009 would not "pull" .....
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Most likely scenario is that a good 2BR Waiohai deposit would beat out a similar 2BR Shadow Ridge in trade request at II.
IMO

Terry
 
Passed ROFR today

Hi Folks,

Just wanted to update everyone that my purchase of the EOY Waiohai (mentioned earlier in this thread) passed ROFR at $12,100.

This is 43% of the developer price - we've all seen some go as low as 38%, but I'm happy with it as I've been looking for awhile and couldn't get multiple sellers to go any lower (@ Redweek, Sellmytimesharenow, etc.)

Off to the ROFR site to post...

Jason
 
Great job Jason. That is a super resort. We enjoyed our stay there in February and can't wait to return. Great resort to have especially since you live in Norcal.
 
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